Don't worry Laura. , Daniel's confusion may arise
from the fact that very few proper competition bikes can be used on the road In
the States. Most trail type bikes over there are very road oriented.
Over here, you can buy almost any machine?and
put it on the road and all enduro and trials machines can have number plates.
The reason?the Honda XR's are so good is that they are built for full-on
competition and so are incredibly well made. There are no compromises to mass
production at the expense of strength or reliability but being Honda they are
utterly civilised as well and have fairly normal service
intervals.?
?
To put that into perspective,?my Husqvarna
four stroke TE350 that I used on the road had no oil pump, relying instead on
crankcase pressure to move the oil around, HAD to run on Mobil 1 15/50 and was
meant to have the engine side cases stripped off every 5 hours of use to replace
the oil gallery reed valves.??The Honda is just like a typical 250cc
Jap commuter..Oil changes every thousand miles, oil the chain
occasionally...normal stuff!
?
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, July 02, 2007 9:19 AM
Subject: Re: [W650riders] :WAS goodwood
breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES AGAIN
Gets v confusing, yes commuting, urban riding for which I
understand it's v good. I''m just thinking about it not rushing to the shop
tomorrwo.
Laura
On 02/07/07, daniel
finn <finnman@...> wrote:
That's why I don't live in the UK, no NX's. I'd
forgotten the reason. SORRY Laura I was certain that you wanted to street
ride too. We don't have a KING JON in the colonies to save us from outsiders
opinions,knowledge and riding experience. I beg your forgiveness OH god of
all things bike, but we're not coming back to the motherland. Get an NX
you'll love it. He can't kill all of us.
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Sent:
Sunday, July 01, 2007 3:10 PM
Subject:
Re: [W650riders] :WAS goodwood breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES AGAIN
?
Hmm...Those
weren't based on the XR though...they're water-cooled for starters...Not
available in the UK and not many grey imports brought in because they
weren't as good as an XR at fast stuff and weren't as good as a Serow at
nadgery trails . Quite heavy too...
Laura: The best of all those 250's was the
Honda NX 250 from '88,'89 and very cool with it's mini fairing. Here's a
pic of my NX 650, they looked alike.?Used they're reasonably
priced. Daniel
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Sent:
Sunday, July 01, 2007 12:22 PM
Subject:
Re: [W650riders] :WAS goodwood breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES
AGAIN
Hm if I would be interested in such a yamaha xt225 (or 250) what
would be I be looking at moneywise? I understand it would be good for
town/commuting. I do fancy one of those, riding position seems
comfortable. But you know I go through phases so please don't take it
that I will go and buy one tomorrow, I'm likely to change my mind
again as women do!! Haven't even sat one. Are they easy to get hold
of?
Laura
On 01/07/07, James Franklin <jimw650@...> wrote:
Laura, Honda CRs are
two strokes and they are high performance racable..the
XRs and
the XLs are 4 strokes.
The Suzuki DR 200, the Yamaha XT 225
(Serrow), and the Kawasaki Sherpa 250
are all electric start 4
strokes with seat heights at 30 inches or less
unladen.
James Franklin
2411 Pine Summit DR.
E
Jacksonville, Florida 32211
808-225-0994
(cell)
>From: Laura <laurauk.rider@... >
>Reply-To:
W650riders@...
>To: W650riders@...
>Subject: Re:
[W650riders] :WAS goodwood breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES
>AGAIN
>Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 23:15:59
+0100
>
>OK. So that's a 2-stroke noisy bike then. Quite
like the idea. Are they
>cheap could I have them as second
bike?
>KTMs look cool, definitely too high. A friend just had
to have his food
>reshaped as he came off doing a wheelie at
70 (we think).
>Laura
>
>
>On 30/06/07, Jonhaddock@... <
jonhaddock@...>
wrote:
>>
>>??Yes, they ARE high, some
higher than others, but the Honda XR 250's are
>>OK. I find
I can manage those??well with my 27" inside leg, but I
can't
>>ride
>>the KTM's for
instance.
>>
>>----- Original Message
-----
>>*From:* Laura <laurauk.rider@...>
>>*To:*
W650riders@...
>>*Sent:*
Saturday, June 30, 2007 10:03 PM
>>*Subject:* Re:
[W650riders] :WAS goodwood breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES
>>AGAIN
>>
>>I've sort of been
interested in them as they look comfy (riding
position),
>>well the ones I saw but don't know what they
were. But they are mostly
>>high
>>aren't they.
Thanks for that long explanation really
helpful.
>>
>>Laura
>>
>>
>>On
30/06/07, Jonhaddock@... < jonhaddock@...
>>>
wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > That is
modern trials...The bikes are 250cc or 300cc two stroke
>>singles,
>> >
>> > tuned for
instant wheelies with loads of bottom end grunt. They
are
>>very
>> > low
>> > geared and
have absolutely NO seat...just a painted black area
>>
> approximately
>> > where the seat would have
been.
>> >
>> > Other off-road sports
are:
>> >
>> > Motocross where the bikes are
tuned for power and like trials, have no
>> > lights
and are not road legal. MX bikes actually handle really well
but
>> > are
>> > stupidly tall to give them
masses of suspension travel...expect seat
>> > heights
>> > in excess of 960mm. Proper Supermotos are
basically Motocross bikes
>>with
>> > road
front wheels on.
>> >
>> > Enduro...Where
the bikes are very similar to motocross but are more
>>
> softly
>> > tuned with gear ratios more suitable to
road use, and have lighting
>> > sets.
>> >
These bikes are usually road legal in the UK and make
literally
>>stunning
>> > commuters. In all
seriousness, you would have to try very hard
indeed
>>to
>> > find a better bike than a late
model Honda XR250 for general urban
>> >
duties.
>> > They weigh...brace yourself...230
lbs....under half your Harley...and
>>30
>> >
bhp
>> > in a bike that light makes for serious
performance. My old Yamaha 465
>> > with
>>
> 42 bhp would shut down any musclebike under the sun up to 60
mph. A lot
>> > of
>> > Enduro bikes were
bought as 'greenlaners'. Green lanes are Roads...i.e.
>>
> 'Rights of way open to all traffic' which were not tarmac. In
other
>> > words,
>> > forgotten about or
not used. Because they were roads, bikes still
had
>>to
>> > be
>> > fully road
legal and obey national speed limits. They are often
just
>> > muddy
>> > tracks across moors
and rivers and to be honest, full-on Enduro bikes
>> >
are
>> > not designed for such tricky and challenging
narrow paths....But being
>> > macho
>> >
men we used 'em anyway!
>> >
>> > Trail.
These bikes are less extreme and less robust. They have
less
>> > suspension travel, less power and are often
more civilised. You used to
>> > find
>> >
some in every makers range but today in the UK, only grey imports
are
>> > found.
>> > They were popular
amongst older trail riders ( the ones who knew what
>> >
they
>> > were doing). James has mentioned the Yam
Serow, the Kawasaki Sherpa and
>> > so
>> >
on, but older bikes like the XT250 were very good and frankly,
the
>>XR250
>> >
>> > Honda is so
good and usable it'll cross into both camps.
>>
>
>> > All off-road bikes are brilliant fun,
combining punchy motors with
>> > incredibly light
weight. Both motocross and Enduro bikes have to have
>>
> superb
>> > handling stability because they are
built to win races on bumpy rough
>> >
ground
>> > and as a consequence, round town or the
lanes, a motocross or enduro
>> > bike
>> >
with road oriented tyres on usually blows 'proper' road bikes into
the
>> > weeds.
>> >
>> > They
are incredibly comfy too...really soft seats and amazingly good
>> > suspension make for a real armchair riding
position.
>> >
>> > Very high credibility
too......
>> >
>> > Jon
>>
>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
> > From: Laura
>> > >>Trials? Is that
motocross? exciting. I like the idea of riding
>> >
>>in the woods, think it's called greenlaning. Liked riding on
>> > >>the grass at the rally next
weekend.
>> > >
>> > > Laura, here's
some trials riding:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
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