There are loads on the Continent...if you can dal with left hand drive...Even the venerable old XT 500's are still kicking around for sensible money...Now there's a great road bike...apart from the shit 6v lights and drum brake front end...
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I don't know what your market is like there, so I do not know how available
the XT where you are. Check the papers, and we have Bike Trader/Auto Trader
which run ads for used bikes.
I didn't see many used ones (XT/Serrow) in Hawaii, people buy them and keep
them evidently. They cost around $5000 new (I was surprised), the DR and
the Sherpa were cheaper.
James Franklin
2411 Pine Summit DR. E
Jacksonville, Florida 32211
808-225-0994 (cell)
From: Laura <laurauk.rider@...>
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To: W650riders@...
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Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 17:22:07 +0100
Hm if I would be interested in such a yamaha xt225 (or 250) what would be I
be looking at moneywise? I understand it would be good for town/commuting.
I
do fancy one of those, riding position seems comfortable. But you know I go
through phases so please don't take it that I will go and buy one tomorrow,
I'm likely to change my mind again as women do!! Haven't even sat one. Are
they easy to get hold of?
Laura
On 01/07/07, James Franklin <jimw650@...> wrote:
Laura, Honda CRs are two strokes and they are high performance
racable..the
XRs and the XLs are 4 strokes.
The Suzuki DR 200, the Yamaha XT 225 (Serrow), and the Kawasaki Sherpa 250
are all electric start 4 strokes with seat heights at 30 inches or less
unladen.
James Franklin
2411 Pine Summit DR. E
Jacksonville, Florida 32211
808-225-0994 (cell)
From: Laura <laurauk.rider@...>
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To: W650riders@...
Subject: Re: [W650riders] :WAS goodwood breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES
AGAIN
Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 23:15:59 +0100
OK. So that's a 2-stroke noisy bike then. Quite like the idea. Are they
cheap could I have them as second bike?
KTMs look cool, definitely too high. A friend just had to have his food
reshaped as he came off doing a wheelie at 70 (we think).
Laura
On 30/06/07, Jonhaddock@... <jonhaddock@...> wrote:
Yes, they ARE high, some higher than others, but the Honda XR 250's
are
OK. I find I can manage those well with my 27" inside leg, but I can't
ride
the KTM's for instance.
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I've sort of been interested in them as they look comfy (riding
position),
well the ones I saw but don't know what they were. But they are mostly
high
aren't they. Thanks for that long explanation really helpful.
Laura
On 30/06/07, Jonhaddock@... <jonhaddock@...
<jonhaddock@...+>> wrote:
That is modern trials...The bikes are 250cc or 300cc two stroke
singles,
tuned for instant wheelies with loads of bottom end grunt. They are
very
low
geared and have absolutely NO seat...just a painted black area
approximately
where the seat would have been.
Other off-road sports are:
Motocross where the bikes are tuned for power and like trials, have
no
lights and are not road legal. MX bikes actually handle really well
but
are
stupidly tall to give them masses of suspension travel...expect seat
heights
in excess of 960mm. Proper Supermotos are basically Motocross bikes
with
road front wheels on.
Enduro...Where the bikes are very similar to motocross but are more
softly
tuned with gear ratios more suitable to road use, and have lighting
sets.
These bikes are usually road legal in the UK and make literally
stunning
commuters. In all seriousness, you would have to try very hard
indeed
to
find a better bike than a late model Honda XR250 for general urban
duties.
They weigh...brace yourself...230 lbs....under half your
Harley...and
30
bhp
in a bike that light makes for serious performance. My old Yamaha
465
with
42 bhp would shut down any musclebike under the sun up to 60 mph. A
lot
of
Enduro bikes were bought as 'greenlaners'. Green lanes are
Roads...i.e.
'Rights of way open to all traffic' which were not tarmac. In other
words,
forgotten about or not used. Because they were roads, bikes still
had
to
be
fully road legal and obey national speed limits. They are often just
muddy
tracks across moors and rivers and to be honest, full-on Enduro
bikes
are
not designed for such tricky and challenging narrow paths....But
being
macho
men we used 'em anyway!
Trail. These bikes are less extreme and less robust. They have less
suspension travel, less power and are often more civilised. You used
to
find
some in every makers range but today in the UK, only grey imports
are
found.
They were popular amongst older trail riders ( the ones who knew
what
they
were doing). James has mentioned the Yam Serow, the Kawasaki Sherpa
and
so
on, but older bikes like the XT250 were very good and frankly, the
XR250
Honda is so good and usable it'll cross into both camps.
All off-road bikes are brilliant fun, combining punchy motors with
incredibly light weight. Both motocross and Enduro bikes have to
have
superb
handling stability because they are built to win races on bumpy
rough
ground
and as a consequence, round town or the lanes, a motocross or enduro
bike
with road oriented tyres on usually blows 'proper' road bikes into
the
weeds.
They are incredibly comfy too...really soft seats and amazingly good
suspension make for a real armchair riding position.
Very high credibility too......
Jon
From: Laura
Trials? Is that motocross? exciting. I like the idea of riding
in the woods, think it's called greenlaning. Liked riding on
the grass at the rally next weekend.
Laura, here's some trials riding:
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