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Re: Even More Joining New APRS-over-VARA Channel


 

For the record the radio dial frequency is 10.148.200 for both CW mode (USB) and DATA mode (USB) and filters are all in default. No change in VAFA settings either.

Thanks for the explanation..

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On Sun, Dec 22, 2024 at 7:05?PM WA8LMF via <wa8lmf3=[email protected]> wrote:
On 12/22/2024 5:15 PM, Steve K3FZT wrote:
Hmmm. In USB-Data mode I can key the radio using DTR on COM3 but I see in Pinpoint:
WA8LMF-6>APU25N:>150213zThis is the new APRS-over-VARA Channel beginning 1 Jan
WA8LMF-6>APU25N:}KJ4ERJ-15>APZTLE,TCPIP,WA8LMF-6*:;ISS ? ? ?*213954h5045.75S\03104.32WSMsg4Pass }k1niNe`ZpLz<t3N<(L"Z,e<iN{!w1#!
WA8LMF-6>APU25N:}KJ4ERJ-15>APZTLE,TCPIP,WA8LMF-6*:;ISS ? ? ?*214153h4835.22S\02013.22WSMsg4Pass }k1njNfa[qLz;s2N;)L"[+f;jN{!wD{!
WA8LMF-6>APU25N:}KJ4ERJ-15>APZTLE,TCPIP,WA8LMF-6*:;ISS ? ? ?*214352h4523.80S\01029.94WSMsg4Pass }k1mlNga[qKz9q0N9+K"[+g;lN{!w\U!

I was seeing three lines of text at one time. I think was in USB-CW mode for that.


On most radios, the main difference between "USB" and "DATA-U" is that the audio input/output is from the front panel on USB and a rear-panel "data port" on "DATA-U".?? The receive tuning shouldn't be any different.?? USB-CW is again normal USB receive, but the input on transmit is the CW key jack, rather than any kind of audio from a soundcard program.


I am transmitting these on the new APRS-overVARA channel (10.148.200 USB) as WA8LMF-6 to give adopters something to receive and verify that they are on the right frequency.

You are seeing one line of APRS Bulletin transmission, and three lines of the KJ4ERJ space station object.??

APRS Bulletins are like APRS text messages, but addressed to everyone (not a specific station).? They require no ACKs (since they not sent to a specific station), and are repeated endlessly until disabled.? (Normal messages addressed to a specific station are repeated only a few time?if they receive no ACK, and then stop .)?

Bulletins are typically used to announce weather alerts, upcoming events, disaster info, etc.? Further, sending the same BLN # with new content will cause the like-numbered bulletin line at receive stations to be updated (overwritten) with the new content. ??


KJ4ERJ originates the space station objects every two minutes showing the current location of the space station itself (an APRS point object) and of it's radio footprint on the earth (APRS area object). He inserts them into the APRS Internet System.? I fish them out of the APRS-IS and re-transmit them over 30M RF.? [I am assuming that if someone is far enough out in the boonies to be using HF APRS rather than 2 meters, that they might also be interested in knowing when the ISS and it's VHF digipeater is overhead. ]?

Note that most APRS clients fail to decode and correctly display APRS area objects though they will display the point object directly under the ISS.? (UIview is one of the few APRS clients that WILL properly decode and display area objects on it's maps.? (You will periodically see the ISS "photo-bomb" my APRS screen caps from UIview.)



I just got this in USB-CW:

WA8LMF-5>APU25N::BLN07 ? ?:New 30M VARA Channel ? 1 Jan 2024
WA8LMF-5>APU25N::BLN09 ? ?:30M VARA Freq Info -
NS3X>APIN21:!3940.77N/07655.35Wy ? ?ns3x@... FM19mq 752 ft ASL

Wrong year I think.


Apparently you are switching between the new channel and the old channel.??

This is the old VARA-over-APRS channel (10.147.600 MHz). I have been using bulletins here to? announce/talk? up the new APRS-over-VARA frequency change to people still on the old VARA channel.????? Yes there was a typo on the year -- now fixed.??? After Jan 1st, I will leave a "night light" beacon, from a second transceiver,? on the old frequency for a couple of weeks announcing that the APRS-over-VARA frequency has changed.?




Yes, I've had VARA in KISS mode throughout, though it complains it isn't seeing anything on port 8300 it's connected to pinpoint on the default of 8100.


The two primary VARA ports 8300 (Command) and 8301 (Data) are used by WinLink, VARAchat and VarAC Chat.? They are NOT used by APRS over VARA - the single port 8100 (KISS) handles everything APRS-related.

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2)?? Set the passband or DSP bandwidth tuning of the radio to allow the bandpass of around 1000 Hz to 2000 Hz.? (The VARA signal is about 500 Hz wide, centered on 1500 Hz.)

Depending on the nature of the slope of your passband filter edges, you may be able to screw down the bandwidth narrower. (Most filters start having phase shifts and ringing at the passband edges, limiting how narrow you can set the filters without mangling the complex multi-tone VARA signal.)


3)??? Enable the KISS-over-IP function in VARA under "Settings", "VARA Setup". Be sure to check the box "KISS interface".? This becomes a TCP/IP server.?


4)??? Select KISS-over-IP as a TNC source in PinPoint. This becomes a TCP/IP client connecting to VARA's server.? Note that the IP PORT # in both programs must match.? (Normally this will be the default VARA KISS-over-IP port number of 8100.)?? The IP address of both programs will be "localhost" a.k.a.? "127.0.0.1" meaning both the server and the client are on the same machine.?

Details on my web site at:

- APRS over VARA? --
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