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On Nov 17, 2022, at 10:33 AM, Stephen H. Smith <wa8lmf@...> wrote:

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On 11/17/2022 10:50 AM, Jeff KB5NMB wrote:

Good morning all,

So our club had a UI-View setup with weather station, internet feed and digi enabled at the local EOC. Due to some building issues the EOC was shut down with intentions of it being moved. After a lengthy time, over two years, no location has been decided on fir the EOC. The club has moved to a new location and wants to set up the aprs/wx system again. And I know you see this coming, the hard drive in the old pc has died after all this time sitting. The original system used PMap9 so I went to WA8LMF’s page for the ISO download but the link no longer works. I have searched for another source to do the one time work around mentioned for use with UI-View but no luck. Does anyone out there know of a source for PMap9? Thanks ahead for any help.

Jeff
kb5nmb

This sounds fishy to me. Hard drives don't die from being stored. Most likely, the backup battery on the mother board of the PC (usually a CR-2032 lithium coin cell) died. As long as the PC remains powered you may not even know that this battery, that backs up the static ram ('CMOS") that holds the PCs configuration, has expired. (It also and keeps the real-time clock running when the power is off.) Normally these batteries last 5-10 years in a PC. When the battery is dead, and the AC power is removed, the computer literally forgets that it has a hard disk.

IBM cursed the world with this kludgy scheme starting with the PC/AT in the early 1980s. 100's of millions of desk-top PC users are totally unaware that the functioning of their AC-powered device is totally at the mercy of the health of a battery inside.

There is no battery hatch cover to access this battery. You have to open up the PC and locate this battery that is usually in a flat circular cup on the motherboard. Pry it out of the cup and replace with a new one. You then have to power up the PC and jump into the BIOS configuration menus, usually by hitting "Del" or "F2" just seconds after power-on. (Varies on brand and vintage of the computer.) Depending on the age of the PC, it will either auto-recognize the hard disk configuration, or you may have to manually enter the hard disk data. You may have to select other config data such as what COM numbers the serial port(s) should use, etc if the battery is totally dead. Then follow the prompts to save settings and reboot. The CR-2032 coil cell is a common item available at Walmart, Target, Home Depot, etc.

If you do want to do a new setup on another PC, you may be interested in my complete ready-to-run UIview virtual machine. This is a complete ready-to-run UIview setup packaged as a VMware virtual machine file. You install the freeware "VMware Player" app on your PC, and then use it to open and run the huge (around 7GB) virtual machine file. You literally see a second computer (the virtual machine) boot and run in a window on your host machine's desktop. Since the VMware Player is available for Macs and Linux machines as well as Windows PCs, you can literally run the UIview bundle on these platforms as well.
My virtual machine package is a complete ready-to-run UIview setup including ALL the plug-ins and add-ons for UIview AND a fully-functional Precision Mapping 9. All you have to do is plug in your user name and license key on first-time-run. It saves hours of installing, updating and configuring a UIview setup from scratch. Storing the virtual machine file and a copy of the VMware Player installer on a 16GB flash drive allows you to slam a full UIview setup onto any machine is just minutes. Full info and downloads are here on my website:

<>

Stephen H. Smith wa8lmf (at) aol.com
Skype: WA8LMF
EchoLink: Node # 14400 [Think bottom of the 2-meter band]
Home Page:

-- APRS over FLdigi Modes --
<>

60-Meter APRS! HF NVIS APRS Igate Now Operating
<>

Flying Digipeater!
<>

11 Copies of UIview in Action on One Computer!
Live Off-The-Air APRS Activity Maps
<>

On Nov 17, 2022, at 10:33 AM, Stephen H. Smith <wa8lmf@...> wrote:

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On 11/17/2022 10:50 AM, Jeff KB5NMB wrote:

Good morning all,

So our club had a UI-View setup with weather station, internet feed and digi enabled at the local EOC. Due to some building issues the EOC was shut down with intentions of it being moved. After a lengthy time, over two years, no location has been decided on fir the EOC. The club has moved to a new location and wants to set up the aprs/wx system again. And I know you see this coming, the hard drive in the old pc has died after all this time sitting. The original system used PMap9 so I went to WA8LMF’s page for the ISO download but the link no longer works. I have searched for another source to do the one time work around mentioned for use with UI-View but no luck. Does anyone out there know of a source for PMap9? Thanks ahead for any help.

Jeff
kb5nmb

This sounds fishy to me. Hard drives don't die from being stored. Most likely, the backup battery on the mother board of the PC (usually a CR-2032 lithium coin cell) died. As long as the PC remains powered you may not even know that this battery, that backs up the static ram ('CMOS") that holds the PCs configuration, has expired. (It also and keeps the real-time clock running when the power is off.) Normally these batteries last 5-10 years in a PC. When the battery is dead, and the AC power is removed, the computer literally forgets that it has a hard disk.

IBM cursed the world with this kludgy scheme starting with the PC/AT in the early 1980s. 100's of millions of desk-top PC users are totally unaware that the functioning of their AC-powered device is totally at the mercy of the health of a battery inside.

There is no battery hatch cover to access this battery. You have to open up the PC and locate this battery that is usually in a flat circular cup on the motherboard. Pry it out of the cup and replace with a new one. You then have to power up the PC and jump into the BIOS configuration menus, usually by hitting "Del" or "F2" just seconds after power-on. (Varies on brand and vintage of the computer.) Depending on the age of the PC, it will either auto-recognize the hard disk configuration, or you may have to manually enter the hard disk data. You may have to select other config data such as what COM numbers the serial port(s) should use, etc if the battery is totally dead. Then follow the prompts to save settings and reboot. The CR-2032 coil cell is a common item available at Walmart, Target, Home Depot, etc.

If you do want to do a new setup on another PC, you may be interested in my complete ready-to-run UIview virtual machine. This is a complete ready-to-run UIview setup packaged as a VMware virtual machine file. You install the freeware "VMware Player" app on your PC, and then use it to open and run the huge (around 7GB) virtual machine file. You literally see a second computer (the virtual machine) boot and run in a window on your host machine's desktop. Since the VMware Player is available for Macs and Linux machines as well as Windows PCs, you can literally run the UIview bundle on these platforms as well.
My virtual machine package is a complete ready-to-run UIview setup including ALL the plug-ins and add-ons for UIview AND a fully-functional Precision Mapping 9. All you have to do is plug in your user name and license key on first-time-run. It saves hours of installing, updating and configuring a UIview setup from scratch. Storing the virtual machine file and a copy of the VMware Player installer on a 16GB flash drive allows you to slam a full UIview setup onto any machine is just minutes. Full info and downloads are here on my website:

<>

Stephen H. Smith wa8lmf (at) aol.com
Skype: WA8LMF
EchoLink: Node # 14400 [Think bottom of the 2-meter band]
Home Page:

-- APRS over FLdigi Modes --
<>

60-Meter APRS! HF NVIS APRS Igate Now Operating
<>

Flying Digipeater!
<>

11 Copies of UIview in Action on One Computer!
Live Off-The-Air APRS Activity Maps
<>

On Nov 17, 2022, at 10:33 AM, Stephen H. Smith <wa8lmf@...> wrote:

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On 11/17/2022 10:50 AM, Jeff KB5NMB wrote:

Good morning all,

So our club had a UI-View setup with weather station, internet feed and digi enabled at the local EOC. Due to some building issues the EOC was shut down with intentions of it being moved. After a lengthy time, over two years, no location has been decided on fir the EOC. The club has moved to a new location and wants to set up the aprs/wx system again. And I know you see this coming, the hard drive in the old pc has died after all this time sitting. The original system used PMap9 so I went to WA8LMF’s page for the ISO download but the link no longer works. I have searched for another source to do the one time work around mentioned for use with UI-View but no luck. Does anyone out there know of a source for PMap9? Thanks ahead for any help.

Jeff
kb5nmb

This sounds fishy to me. Hard drives don't die from being stored. Most likely, the backup battery on the mother board of the PC (usually a CR-2032 lithium coin cell) died. As long as the PC remains powered you may not even know that this battery, that backs up the static ram ('CMOS") that holds the PCs configuration, has expired. (It also and keeps the real-time clock running when the power is off.) Normally these batteries last 5-10 years in a PC. When the battery is dead, and the AC power is removed, the computer literally forgets that it has a hard disk.

IBM cursed the world with this kludgy scheme starting with the PC/AT in the early 1980s. 100's of millions of desk-top PC users are totally unaware that the functioning of their AC-powered device is totally at the mercy of the health of a battery inside.

There is no battery hatch cover to access this battery. You have to open up the PC and locate this battery that is usually in a flat circular cup on the motherboard. Pry it out of the cup and replace with a new one. You then have to power up the PC and jump into the BIOS configuration menus, usually by hitting "Del" or "F2" just seconds after power-on. (Varies on brand and vintage of the computer.) Depending on the age of the PC, it will either auto-recognize the hard disk configuration, or you may have to manually enter the hard disk data. You may have to select other config data such as what COM numbers the serial port(s) should use, etc if the battery is totally dead. Then follow the prompts to save settings and reboot. The CR-2032 coil cell is a common item available at Walmart, Target, Home Depot, etc.

If you do want to do a new setup on another PC, you may be interested in my complete ready-to-run UIview virtual machine. This is a complete ready-to-run UIview setup packaged as a VMware virtual machine file. You install the freeware "VMware Player" app on your PC, and then use it to open and run the huge (around 7GB) virtual machine file. You literally see a second computer (the virtual machine) boot and run in a window on your host machine's desktop. Since the VMware Player is available for Macs and Linux machines as well as Windows PCs, you can literally run the UIview bundle on these platforms as well.
My virtual machine package is a complete ready-to-run UIview setup including ALL the plug-ins and add-ons for UIview AND a fully-functional Precision Mapping 9. All you have to do is plug in your user name and license key on first-time-run. It saves hours of installing, updating and configuring a UIview setup from scratch. Storing the virtual machine file and a copy of the VMware Player installer on a 16GB flash drive allows you to slam a full UIview setup onto any machine is just minutes. Full info and downloads are here on my website:

<>

Stephen H. Smith wa8lmf (at) aol.com
Skype: WA8LMF
EchoLink: Node # 14400 [Think bottom of the 2-meter band]
Home Page:

-- APRS over FLdigi Modes --
<>

60-Meter APRS! HF NVIS APRS Igate Now Operating
<>

Flying Digipeater!
<>

11 Copies of UIview in Action on One Computer!
Live Off-The-Air APRS Activity Maps
<>

On Nov 17, 2022, at 9:50 AM, Jeff KB5NMB <kb5nmb@...> wrote:

?Good morning all,

So our club had a UI-View setup with weather station, internet feed and digi enabled at the local EOC. Due to some building issues the EOC was shut down with intentions of it being moved. After a lengthy time, over two years, no location has been decided on fir the EOC. The club has moved to a new location and wants to set up the aprs/wx system again. And I know you see this coming, the hard drive in the old pc has died after all this time sitting. The original system used PMap9 so I went to WA8LMF’s page for the ISO download but the link no longer works. I have searched for another source to do the one time work around mentioned for use with UI-View but no luck. Does anyone out there know of a source for PMap9? Thanks ahead for any help.

Jeff
kb5nmb

On Nov 17, 2022, at 10:53 AM, Gervais Fillion <ve2ckn2@...> wrote:

?What windows did you run?

i already add myself the same problem,
the hd was ok its the pc that was dead,
i found an other pc ,almost the same cpu if i recalled and install the old hd.

you could have 1 chance on 2 it would restart,,depends of the windows version you were running!

thats why i still have XP3 in mine

gef

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Envoyé : 17 novembre 2022 11:44
? : Stephen H. Smith <wa8lmf@...>
Cc : [email protected] <[email protected]>
Objet : Re: [UI-View] hard drive failure reinstall help

Well it’s not fishy as spindle drives do die, but what ever. Have a nice die sir.

Jeff
kb5nmb

On Nov 17, 2022, at 10:33 AM, Stephen H. Smith <wa8lmf@...> wrote:

?

On 11/17/2022 10:50 AM, Jeff KB5NMB wrote:
Good morning all,

So our club had a UI-View setup with weather station, internet feed and digi enabled at the local EOC. Due to some building issues the EOC was shut down with intentions of it being moved. After a lengthy time, over two years, no location has been decided on fir the EOC. The club has moved to a new location and wants to set up the aprs/wx system again. And I know you see this coming, the hard drive in the old pc has died after all this time sitting. The original system used PMap9 so I went to WA8LMF’s page for the ISO download but the link no longer works. I have searched for another source to do the one time work around mentioned for use with UI-View but no luck. Does anyone out there know of a source for PMap9? Thanks ahead for any help.

Jeff
kb5nmb

This sounds fishy to me. Hard drives don't die from being stored. Most likely, the backup battery on the mother board of the PC (usually a CR-2032 lithium coin cell) died. As long as the PC remains powered you may not even know that this battery, that backs up the static ram ('CMOS") that holds the PCs configuration, has expired. (It also and keeps the real-time clock running when the power is off.) Normally these batteries last 5-10 years in a PC. When the battery is dead, and the AC power is removed, the computer literally forgets that it has a hard disk.

IBM cursed the world with this kludgy scheme starting with the PC/AT in the early 1980s. 100's of millions of desk-top PC users are totally unaware that the functioning of their AC-powered device is totally at the mercy of the health of a battery inside.

There is no battery hatch cover to access this battery. You have to open up the PC and locate this battery that is usually in a flat circular cup on the motherboard. Pry it out of the cup and replace with a new one. You then have to power up the PC and jump into the BIOS configuration menus, usually by hitting "Del" or "F2" just seconds after power-on. (Varies on brand and vintage of the computer.) Depending on the age of the PC, it will either auto-recognize the hard disk configuration, or you may have to manually enter the hard disk data. You may have to select other config data such as what COM numbers the serial port(s) should use, etc if the battery is totally dead. Then follow the prompts to save settings and reboot. The CR-2032 coil cell is a common item available at Walmart, Target, Home Depot, etc.

If you do want to do a new setup on another PC, you may be interested in my complete ready-to-run UIview virtual machine. This is a complete ready-to-run UIview setup packaged as a VMware virtual machine file. You install the freeware "VMware Player" app on your PC, and then use it to open and run the huge (around 7GB) virtual machine file. You literally see a second computer (the virtual machine) boot and run in a window on your host machine's desktop. Since the VMware Player is available for Macs and Linux machines as well as Windows PCs, you can literally run the UIview bundle on these platforms as well.
My virtual machine package is a complete ready-to-run UIview setup including ALL the plug-ins and add-ons for UIview AND a fully-functional Precision Mapping 9. All you have to do is plug in your user name and license key on first-time-run. It saves hours of installing, updating and configuring a UIview setup from scratch. Storing the virtual machine file and a copy of the VMware Player installer on a 16GB flash drive allows you to slam a full UIview setup onto any machine is just minutes. Full info and downloads are here on my website:

<>

Stephen H. Smith wa8lmf (at) aol.com
Skype: WA8LMF
EchoLink: Node # 14400 [Think bottom of the 2-meter band]
Home Page:

-- APRS over FLdigi Modes --
<>

60-Meter APRS! HF NVIS APRS Igate Now Operating
<>

Flying Digipeater!
<>

11 Copies of UIview in Action on One Computer!
Live Off-The-Air APRS Activity Maps
<>

On Nov 17, 2022, at 10:57 AM, Bobby - K5TV via groups.io <kd5nsp@...> wrote:

?Jeff, let me look I may have it at home.


Bobby - K5TV 73

On Nov 17, 2022, at 9:50 AM, Jeff KB5NMB <kb5nmb@...> wrote:

?Good morning all,

So our club had a UI-View setup with weather station, internet feed and digi enabled at the local EOC. Due to some building issues the EOC was shut down with intentions of it being moved. After a lengthy time, over two years, no location has been decided on fir the EOC. The club has moved to a new location and wants to set up the aprs/wx system again. And I know you see this coming, the hard drive in the old pc has died after all this time sitting. The original system used PMap9 so I went to WA8LMF’s page for the ISO download but the link no longer works. I have searched for another source to do the one time work around mentioned for use with UI-View but no luck. Does anyone out there know of a source for PMap9? Thanks ahead for any help.

Jeff
kb5nmb

--
*Bobby Copeland K5TV*

On Nov 17, 2022, at 10:58 AM, KB9WOO <kb9woo@...> wrote:

?Big VMware fan here (ESXi & vCenter user), so I'd like to point out how cool it is that you're offering that to the UI-View community.

I've also had old hard drives fail after being relocated even though they were powered off during relational. It's common to only *expect* 5 years of service from a spinning disk drive, though it is just as common to have 15-20+ year old drives still usable.

If you search the groups here, there have been some solutions posted for PMap9 alternatives, though if PMap9 is what you want, there might still be someone who can help you obtain what you need.