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Re: Why not plotted?

ken collins
 

In article <32EqfHAAOn04EwNP@...>, David Lane
<dave@...> writes

guessing its a case of the TH-7DE going to sleep. I'll recycle the
power more often but anyone got a solution to this problem?
Hi Dave,

I run the TH-D7E and I don't have this problem.

See the manual for Automatic Power Off (APO). It's page 49.

--
Ken - G4FIP
e-mail:-ken.collins@...


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Brian Davies
 

Hi Folks
Just a test before I send a actual message to see if I have the address
correct.

Regards Brian VK4BBS<


Yes Brian it arrived here OK


Re: Why not plotted?

 

In a message dated 17/03/2000 22:57:17 GMT Standard Time,
dave@... writes:

<< Incidently for other GPS3+ users - there is a problem with the
batteries not making good contact for which Garmin will issue a
shim/wedge type thingy which solves the problem according to the Garmin
website. My GPS3+ was operating from the cigarette lighter so I'm
guessing its a case of the TH-7DE going to sleep. I'll recycle the
power more often but anyone got a solution to this problem? >>

Hi Dave,
I have been out pedestrian mobile with my Garmin GPS3 and TH-D7 for several
hours at a time and never experienced the problems you describe. What happens
when your TH-D7 "goes to sleep"? Does it lock up or just stop taking the GPS
data or stop TXing or what? The battery contacts in my GPS3 seem to be quite
tight though there is some scope for stretching the contact springs a bit if
it proves necessary. Maybe the new GPS3+ is not so good in this respect?

73, Simon.


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Hi Folks

Just a test before I send a actual message to see if I have the address
correct.

Regards Brian VK4BBS


Re: Correct packet path whilst mobile.

John Parr
 

theres at least one RELAY digi on your way to Blackpool round about J23 M6
...ME
de G6WVL John..

-----Original Message-----
From: Carl <carl_mail@...>
To: ui-view@... <ui-view@...>
Date: 17 March 2000 23:02
Subject: Re: [ui-view] Correct packet path whilst mobile.


From: Carl <carl_mail@...>

Fixed stations should NOT use RELAY in their unproto path, for the
reasons previously stated, BUT THEY ALL should have RELAY set as
one of their ALIASES so that they digi mobiles sending to RELAY...

If a fixed station cant get to a WIDE directly they should not
use RELAY before the wide (unless local circumstances mean that
there is no other path due to poor seting up in the area)they should
put in the callsign of the intervening digi station. Also they might
ask that station to set WIDE as an alias so that they see the traffic
that they would otherwise miss!
The second paragraph contradicts the first a bit. Essentially when there
are loads of stations about, fixed stations should use well located
callsigns
to get out of the area. If activity is up/down (or off/on as here) then
RELAY has a better chance of getting out regularly.

I hope to go to the Blackpool rally so there will be at least one RELAY
digi
around.


Carl gw0tqm
gw0tqm@...


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Re: Correct packet path whilst mobile.

Carl
 

Fixed stations should NOT use RELAY in their unproto path, for the
reasons previously stated, BUT THEY ALL should have RELAY set as
one of their ALIASES so that they digi mobiles sending to RELAY...

If a fixed station cant get to a WIDE directly they should not
use RELAY before the wide (unless local circumstances mean that
there is no other path due to poor seting up in the area)they should
put in the callsign of the intervening digi station. Also they might
ask that station to set WIDE as an alias so that they see the traffic
that they would otherwise miss!
The second paragraph contradicts the first a bit. Essentially when there
are loads of stations about, fixed stations should use well located callsigns
to get out of the area. If activity is up/down (or off/on as here) then
RELAY has a better chance of getting out regularly.

I hope to go to the Blackpool rally so there will be at least one RELAY digi
around.


Carl gw0tqm
gw0tqm@...


Re: Practical uses for UI-View

Brian Davies
 

Hi All

Many many thanks to all of you whom have sent me messages regarding my map
problems on UI-View. I have been able to recognize that my problem has
been the way I have tried to make the maps. The information sent by
several of you have helped me enormously and I'm duly most grateful.

Once again many thanks for all your help.

73

Brian G3OYU
County Controller Surrey Raynet.


Re: Correct packet path whilst mobile.

Ciemon G0TRT
 

As my bulletin is set up to send:" /M use RELAY,TRACE2- for the IGATE
please", I'll explain.

In this area, from the Wash right down to Kent, there are no "WIDE" digis,
they all have the ability to TRACE.

I run an IGATE (MB7UPG) alongside Keith G6NHU (MB7UIV)
My beacon (and bulletins) go out to APRS,TRACE3-3
Anyone who hears my beacon can get into my IGATE by following a return path
of RELAY,TRACE2-2
Keith will also hear this, so......
To be seen and workable through an IGATE in the east/south east whilst
mobile use a path of RELAY,TRACE2-2

Hope this explains the thinking behind the bulletin

73.....Ciemon GTRT sysop MB7UPG IGATE
g0trt@...

From: "Alex Greenland" <alex.greenland@...>



Whilst mobile it has been suggested that I change my packet path to
'RELAY,TRACE2-2' for the IGATE. Could sombody please explain why this
is required. I have read thru the aprs spec and cannot find a
reference to this, unless I have missed it ! Please don't take this
out of context, I am willing to change but would like an explanation
of why and I suspect this would be useful information for other
mobile staions.


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Re: Why not plotted?

David Lane
 

In message <E12UHrh-00056l-01@...>,
dave.g0dja@... writes
From: dave.g0dja@...

The following station is being heard, and digipeated, by my station, but is
not being plotted on the map. Anyone any idea why please?

16:55:54T G4MUY-7>PP0PP0,G3NHF*,G4EJP*,RICC*,LAR*,G0DJA-3*,TRACE7-3,WIDE
Port=1 <UI R Len=30>:
'vXl >/>Dave TH-D7E QSX S20
I'm just pleased that you heard me at all Dave! Have read the replies
on this thread about the Mic-E info and its all very interesting.

Re the data given above - either I was just starting off and the GPS3+
hadn't locked on which normally takes about 5 seconds or the TH-D7E had
dozed off again! I make a point of pressing the power on/off every hour
when out mobile and that seems to do the trick or so I thought. If your
sample was last Sunday Dave then I would have been on the way back down
the A1 to Ruislip and probably around Grantham which is about 1 hour
out. Incidently for other GPS3+ users - there is a problem with the
batteries not making good contact for which Garmin will issue a
shim/wedge type thingy which solves the problem according to the Garmin
website. My GPS3+ was operating from the cigarette lighter so I'm
guessing its a case of the TH-7DE going to sleep. I'll recycle the
power more often but anyone got a solution to this problem?
--
Dave Lane
G4MUY-7
<URL:mailto:dave@...>


Re: Connecting UI- View to an APRS server.

 

Ignore this!!!!

It always happens that as soon as you ask for help the thing works!!!!!

Cheers again.

David

----- Original Message -----
From: "David John Walsh" <david@...>
To: <ui-view@...>
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2000 1:16 PM
Subject: [ui-view] Connecting UI- View to an APRS server.


From: "David John Walsh" <david@...>


More problems i'm sorry to say (but life with out problems isn't a
challenge!)

Anyway....

Is UI-View supposed to directly connect to an internet APRS server, or
does the software require a interfacing software to do its thing.

On my home PC, I can telnet into any of the default APRS servers that are
shown in UI- View, but cannot seem to get the software to see the data
comming up the screen.

I have read all of the information on this from the helpfile, but to no
avail.

Any help apreciated.


David J Walsh





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Connecting UI- View to an APRS server.

 

More problems i'm sorry to say (but life with out problems isn't a challenge!)

Anyway....

Is UI-View supposed to directly connect to an internet APRS server, or does the software require a interfacing software to do its thing.

On my home PC, I can telnet into any of the default APRS servers that are shown in UI- View, but cannot seem to get the software to see the data comming up the screen.

I have read all of the information on this from the helpfile, but to no avail.

Any help apreciated.


David J Walsh


Re: Correct packet path whilst mobile.

Brian Davies
 

Hi All

Many many thanks for all the PATH info I have a better understanding now of
the differences and what to use when.

I hope that if I'm doing it wrong some kind person will advise me -
politely though mind! Hi.

73

Brian


Re: Correct packet path whilst mobile.

 

From: "Steve Sampson" <ssampson@...>

Here's how to find your correct digi path:

1. Can you hear the WIDE node?
2. Can the WIDE node hear you?

If the answer to 1 or 2 is no, then you need a RELAY.

Have fun,
Steve
Hi Steve,

How can you tell when mobile????!!!!!

theat is why the accepted unproto path WHEN MOBILE is:

RELAY,WIDE...

that gives you the best chance of being relayed.

Fixed stations should NOT use RELAY in their unproto path, for the
reasons previously stated, BUT THEY ALL should have RELAY set as
one of their ALIASES so that they digi mobiles sending to RELAY...

If a fixed station cant get to a WIDE directly they should not
use RELAY before the wide (unless local circumstances mean that
there is no other path due to poor seting up in the area)they should
put in the callsign of the intervening digi station. Also they might
ask that station to set WIDE as an alias so that they see the traffic
that they would otherwise miss!

73
Jeff
G8HUL


Re: Correct packet path whilst mobile.

Ian Wade
 

In article <200003170356_MC2-9D72-CEF@...>, Brian Davies
<brian_j_davies@...> writes
From: Brian Davies <brian_j_davies@...>

Message text written by INTERNET:ui-view@...
Fixed stations should NOT use RELAY anywhere in the path (execpt
in exceptional circumstances) because this will generate a LOT of
QRM. This happens because EVERY station should respond to RELAY.
<

Hi All

I'm confused! Not difficult to do that I hear you say! I was recommended
to use RELAY, WIDE...................

Brian, the generally accepted path (throughout the world) for MOBILE,
repeat MOBILE, stations is to have RELAY as the first digi callsign in
the UNPROTO path, and all FIXED stations should have at least one
*ALIAS*; i.e. RELAY. Thus when a mobile passes in range of any fixed
station anywhere, the mobile's signal will be relayed by the fixed
station.

Regarding any digi callsigns following RELAY in the MOBILE's UNPROTO
path, most people (throughout the world) seem to use WIDE, but that
isn't obligatory. It depends on the network around the fixed station --
if there isn't another station in range of the fixed station that
recognizes WIDE, the mobile signal won't get any further.

Don't confuse a FIXED station's ALIAS(es) with its UNPROTO digi path.
The ALIAS(es) specify what callsigns it is *listening* for. The UNPROTO
path specifies the path it *transmits* to. The UNPROTO path of a FIXED
station should not contain RELAY (for the reasons mentioned by the other
person above).

Hope this helps :-))

73
Ian, G3NRW
Technical Editor, APRS Protocol Specification

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Bryan Richards
 

Best regards
Pob Hwyl (Welsh)
Bryan


Re: Correct packet path whilst mobile.

Steve Sampson
 

Here's how to find your correct digi path:

1. Can you hear the WIDE node?
2. Can the WIDE node hear you?

If the answer to 1 or 2 is no, then you need a RELAY.

Have fun,
Steve

----- Original Message -----

Please can someone who knows what they are talking about - and are known to
know what they are talking about - like Roger please explain this to me.
What should I have in my digi path?
I only write the program... What digi aliases you should use is an APRS
thing, unrelated to any particular software application.


Re: Correct packet path whilst mobile.

Roger Barker
 

In article <200003170356_MC2-9D72-CEF@...>, Brian Davies
<brian_j_davies@...> writes
[snip]
Please can someone who knows what they are talking about - and are known to
know what they are talking about - like Roger please explain this to me.
What should I have in my digi path?
I only write the program... What digi aliases you should use is an APRS
thing, unrelated to any particular software application.

--
Roger Barker, G4IDE - roger@...
For UI-View goto to -
For WinPack goto to -


Re: Practical uses for UI-View

Roger Barker
 

In article <200003161130_MC2-9D5A-76B1@...>, Brian Davies
<brian_j_davies@...> writes
From: Brian Davies <brian_j_davies@...>

Hi All

Many many thanks for all the replies to my comments regarding map accuracy.
Head hung in shame it would certainly appear that my problem is going to
be the accuracy with which I create the relevant map. I will try to do
better in future.

Incidently I am using various maps including Attica Knowledge Series Third
Edition - The Ordnance Survey Interactive Atlas of Great Britain. Is this
the map you are referring to?
That's the one I use. The second edition, sometimes given away as a
magazine cover CD, is equally accurate. Make sure you run it full screen
when you make maps, and, if you're using Win95 or later, first hide the
Windows task bar, so it really does go full screen. Drag the mouse hard
into the top left and bottom right corners and note the lat and long for
the INF file. Use "Print", "Save to File" to save the image.

--
Roger Barker, G4IDE - roger@...
For UI-View goto to -
For WinPack goto to -


Re: Correct packet path whilst mobile.

Brian Davies
 

Message text written by INTERNET:ui-view@...
Fixed stations should NOT use RELAY anywhere in the path (execpt
in exceptional circumstances) because this will generate a LOT of
QRM. This happens because EVERY station should respond to RELAY.
<

Hi All

I'm confused! Not difficult to do that I hear you say! I was recommended
to use RELAY, WIDE...................

Please can someone who knows what they are talking about - and are known to
know what they are talking about - like Roger please explain this to me.
What should I have in my digi path?

Many thanks

73

Brian