Just checking as whether is me or is anyone else having problems getting on to the site.? Keep on getting 'Timed Out' message from my browser indicating either unavailable or very busy.? As this has been the message I having been getting on and off for the last 7 hours, don't think it's the latter....
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Re: What Special had the excellent article on Operation Martlet?
If you want to go that way, I'd have a
look at the IABSM scenarios or campaigns...
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An excellent suggestion Allan. I've seen the expanded versions of
the scenarios for "29 Let's Go" and thought that several PSCs
would bear scaling up.
Of course, this
requires a campaign supplement for O Group. I'm sure one will be
out by Easter.?
My coat? But
it's cold outside. :-)
Kind regards
Andrew Holmes
On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 at 17:52, Allan Doran via groups.io
I've ordered the book at ?23.
Just a thought here and it might just
be me but ...... would this set of interlinked
operations not be ideal for an O Group
scenario/campaign?
I've played the Martlet/Dauntless PSC
in CoC, but the wider action may well be suited to a
battalion plus action.
Allan.
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Re: What Special had the excellent article on
Operation
Martlet?
From:
Tom Ballou
Date: Wed, 17
Feb 2021
06:35:57 PST
Anyone
have a
suggestion for
where I can
find a list of
the Germans in
Martlet??? Most
sources are
British, and
list the
British in
detail, but
other then
Panzer Lehr
and 12th SS,
no details
about who was
there.?
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Re: What Special had the excellent article on Operation Martlet?
An excellent suggestion Allan. I've seen the expanded versions of the scenarios for "29 Let's Go" and thought that several PSCs would bear scaling up.
Of course, this requires a campaign supplement for O Group. I'm sure one will be out by Easter.?
My coat? But it's cold outside. :-) Kind regards
Andrew Holmes
On Thu, 18 Feb 2021 at 17:52, Allan Doran via groups.io <ajd_1204@...> wrote:
I've ordered the book at ?23.
Just a thought here and it might just be me but ...... would this set of interlinked operations not be ideal for an O Group scenario/campaign?
I've played the Martlet/Dauntless PSC in CoC, but the wider action may well be suited to a battalion plus action.
Allan.
On Thursday, 18 February 2021, 15:12:55 GMT, WRIGHT, Grahame (HERTFORDSHIRE PARTNERSHIP UNIVERSITY NHS FOUNDATION TRUST) via groups.io <grahame.wright@...> wrote:
Hi Tom,
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Long Time Lurker here.
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I have a copy of Waffen SS Panzer Units in Normandy 1944 by Wood and Dugdale and it has a copy of the unit return on the 27th June if that would help?
?
I enclosed most of the relevant pages hopefully they are attached.
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Regards
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Grahame
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Re: What Special had the excellent article on Operation Martlet?
From:
Tom Ballou
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2021 06:35:57 PST
Anyone have a suggestion for where I can find a list of the Germans in Martlet??? Most sources
are British, and list the British in detail, but other then Panzer Lehr and 12th SS, no details about who was there.?
--Tom
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Re: What Special had the excellent article on Operation Martlet?
I've ordered the book at ?23.
Just a thought here and it might just be me but ...... would this set of interlinked operations not be ideal for an O Group scenario/campaign?
I've played the Martlet/Dauntless PSC in CoC, but the wider action may well be suited to a battalion plus action.
Allan.
On Thursday, 18 February 2021, 15:12:55 GMT, WRIGHT, Grahame (HERTFORDSHIRE PARTNERSHIP UNIVERSITY NHS FOUNDATION TRUST) via groups.io <grahame.wright@...> wrote:
Hi Tom,
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Long Time Lurker here.
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I have a copy of Waffen SS Panzer Units in Normandy 1944 by Wood and Dugdale and it has a copy of the unit return on the 27th June if that would help?
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I enclosed most of the relevant pages hopefully they are attached.
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Regards
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Grahame
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Re: What Special had the excellent article on Operation Martlet?
From:
Tom Ballou
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2021 06:35:57 PST
Anyone have a suggestion for where I can find a list of the Germans in Martlet??? Most sources
are British, and list the British in detail, but other then Panzer Lehr and 12th SS, no details about who was there.?
--Tom
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Re: What Special had the excellent article on Operation Martlet?
Hi Tom,
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Long Time Lurker here.
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I have a copy of Waffen SS Panzer Units in Normandy 1944 by Wood and Dugdale and it has a copy of the unit return on the 27th June if that would help?
?
I enclosed most of the relevant pages hopefully they are attached.
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Regards
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Grahame
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Re: What Special had the excellent article on Operation Martlet?
From:
Tom Ballou
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2021 06:35:57 PST
Anyone have a suggestion for where I can find a list of the Germans in Martlet??? Most sources
are British, and list the British in detail, but other then Panzer Lehr and 12th SS, no details about who was there.?
--Tom
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Re: What Special had the excellent article on Operation Martlet?
This is a brilliant book. Thoroughly recommended.? Kind regards
Andrew Holmes
On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 at 19:55, Jeremy Ratcliffe <jfratcliffe@...> wrote: Breaking the Panzers by KevinBaverstock is worth reading if you're? interested in op Martlet. Goes through the action on an hour by hour basis.
Tom,
Make sure you have a look through his photo tour of the battlefield. Gives a very good idea of how close the terrain would be.
Allan.
On Wednesday, 17 February 2021, 18:06:22 GMT, Tom Ballou < tballou@...> wrote:
Wow the Dauntless book is an incredible source.? His notes doc is a treasure.?
Thank you for pointing that out.
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Re: What Special had the excellent article on Operation Martlet?
Breaking the Panzers by KevinBaverstock is worth reading if you're? interested in op Martlet. Goes through the action on an hour by hour basis.
Tom,
Make sure you have a look through his photo tour of the battlefield. Gives a very good idea of how close the terrain would be.
Allan.
On Wednesday, 17 February 2021, 18:06:22 GMT, Tom Ballou < tballou@...> wrote:
Wow the Dauntless book is an incredible source.? His notes doc is a treasure.?
Thank you for pointing that out.
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Re: What Special had the excellent article on Operation Martlet?
Tom,
Make sure you have a look through his photo tour of the battlefield. Gives a very good idea of how close the terrain would be.
Allan.
On Wednesday, 17 February 2021, 18:06:22 GMT, Tom Ballou <tballou@...> wrote:
Wow the Dauntless book is an incredible source.? His notes doc is a treasure.?
Thank you for pointing that out.
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Re: What Special had the excellent article on Operation Martlet?
Wow the Dauntless book is an incredible source.? His notes doc is a treasure.?
Thank you for pointing that out.
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Re: What Special had the excellent article on Operation Martlet?
I just checked the reference book of the game and it lists, in addition to 12th SS and Pz Lehr:
Elements of 21st Panzer, specifically elements of I and II battalions, 192nd Pz Grenadier Regt
Elements of 101 SS Heavy Pz Bn, 1st, 2nd and 3rd companies inc Wittman, with Tiger 1s
Elements of Luftwaffe 4th Flak Assault Regt with towed 88s
Regards
Andrew HOLMES
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On Wednesday, 17 February 2021, 15:53:05 GMT, Allan Doran via groups.io <ajd_1204@...> wrote: As Andrew has noted there is a board game from 2015 designed Mark Mokszycki and published by GMT Games on Operation Dauntless/Martlet. One of the other lads at the old club had the game and talked about it when we were playing the CoC campaign. I¡¯ve just looked it up. This game covers company sized actions between elements of the 12th SS Panzer Division (Hitler Youth) and Panzer Lehr and the British 49th Infantry Division (The Polar Bears) near Caen during Operation Martlet/Dauntless. GMT Games - Operation Dauntless ?? GMT Games - Operation Dauntless Operation Dauntless?? On Wednesday, 17 February 2021, 15:34:15 GMT, Tom Huntington via groups.io <badsockpuppet@...> wrote: ?Nevermind, found it, it's a pintsize Campaign Wait, you started this.? Where's the Pint-Sized Campaign? Tom Huntington
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Op wo 17 feb. 2021 om 16:34 schreef Tom Huntington via <badsockpuppet= [email protected]>:
>? Nevermind, found it, it's a pintsize Campaign
Wait, you started this.? Where's the Pint-Sized Campaign?
Tom Huntington
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Re: What Special had the excellent article on Operation Martlet?
As Andrew has noted
there is a board game from 2015 designed Mark Mokszycki and published by GMT
Games on Operation Dauntless/Martlet. One of the other lads at the old club had
the game and talked about it when we were playing the CoC campaign. I¡¯ve just
looked it up.
This game covers
company sized actions between elements of the 12th SS Panzer Division (Hitler
Youth) and Panzer Lehr and the British 49th Infantry Division (The Polar Bears)
near Caen during Operation Martlet/Dauntless.
On Wednesday, 17 February 2021, 15:34:15 GMT, Tom Huntington via groups.io <badsockpuppet@...> wrote:
>? Nevermind, found it, it's a pintsize Campaign
Wait, you started this.? Where's the Pint-Sized Campaign?
Tom Huntington
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>? Nevermind, found it, it's a pintsize Campaign
Wait, you started this.? Where's the Pint-Sized Campaign?
Tom Huntington
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Re: What Special had the excellent article on Operation Martlet?
I presume you're looking for more than appears in the Pint Sized Campaign??
I have the boardgame of the battle. It's called Operation Dauntless. I don¡¯t know how accurate it is but I'd be happy to summarise the German forces if it helps. Kind regards
Andrew Holmes
On Wed, 17 Feb 2021 at 14:36, Tom Ballou <tballou@...> wrote: Anyone have a suggestion for where I can find a list of the Germans in Martlet??? Most sources are British, and list the British in detail, but other then Panzer Lehr and 12th SS, no details about who was there.?
--Tom
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Re: What Special had the excellent article on Operation Martlet?
Anyone have a suggestion for where I can find a list of the Germans in Martlet??? Most sources are British, and list the British in detail, but other then Panzer Lehr and 12th SS, no details about who was there.?
--Tom
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Re: What Special had the excellent article on Operation Martlet?
Nevermind, found it, it's a pintsize Campaign
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What Special had the excellent article on Operation Martlet?
I'm trying to find it.? I'm sure I have it, but I can't seem to find it.
--Tom
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Re: CoC - couple of rule checks
The Chain of Command FAQ can be found here:-
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Hi Andrew,
How do I access the FAQ?
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Date: 15/02/2021 22:22 (GMT+00:00)
Subject: Re: [TooFatLardies] CoC - couple of rule checks
Hi Bill, don't apologise for asking questions, we all were beginners.?
There's more information about throwing grenades over walls in the faq document. Page 14 says treat it like a high obstacle,? but I don't see that in the main rules.?
Hits are split among adjacent units within 4 inches. But shock is only shared within the squad.?
The faq should be in the files section here.?
Kind regards
Andrew Holmes
On Mon, 15 Feb 2021 at 22:06, bill
<bill@...> wrote:
Hi - still playing Scenario 4 from Kampfgruppe von Luck " Delaying action at the Chateau " and a couple of re questions have come up:
1. Throwing grenades over 8ft walls - if you miss do they come back as you are throwing upwards?
2. Shock - if a support unit is within 4 inches of a squad do they count for sharing shock - in our example a Panzershreck team has attached itself to a squad of 4 men with 6 shock?
Sorry if these have already been covered off but we had a lot of discussion over them tonight!
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Long time since I posted on here!
Someone was asking on the other TFL forum about the old force roster which used to lurk in the files section of the original yahoo forum. I¡¯ve just had a look through the files section here and can¡¯t see it any more. I have a copy which I¡¯d happily upload, if I knew how to do it!?
I think it may be of use to some to help record losses to sections - I know a lot of people (me included) use micro dice for casualties/shock, but it gives people the option of a crib sheet if they prefer.?
Anyway, if anyone knows how I can stick it in the Files section then maybe they could let me know.
Stay safe and keep rolling them bones...
Mervyn
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