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On Aug 26, 2020, at 10:21 PM, BYRON CHAMPLIN <chamby@...> wrote:
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Full circle. Now, that's good karma!
On 08/26/2020 9:48 PM Curt Daniels via groups.io <jrbatso@...> wrote:
Or ?in WW2 Pacific Theater of Operations.
On Aug 26, 2020, at 8:48 PM, BYRON CHAMPLIN <chamby@...> wrote:
Or "Paid Time Off." And in the U.S. it also means "Parent Teacher Organization," in local schools.?
Byron?
On 08/26/2020 8:06 PM Malcolm Sleight <tykemalcolm@...> wrote:
Depends on where you are.
In England and in the English language it usually means "please turn over"
However, in the US business world it means "personal time off".
Sorry chaps,
but I don't understand how i came into this conversation; hence my response.
As far as I am concerned:
(pi? ti? o? ) also P.T.O. PTO is a written abbreviation for 'please turn over'. You write it at the bottom of a page to indicate that there is more writing on the other side.
Apparently, n'our days it has different connotations, but for me it remains as stated.
david
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From: "BYRON CHAMPLIN" <chamby@...>
To: [email protected]; "Robert" <robertdunlop@...>
Sent: Wednesday, 26 Aug, 20 At 21:22
Subject: Re: [TooFatLardies] Whither the PTO?
And I appreciate the response.
Byron
On 08/26/2020 4:15 PM Robert <
robertdunlop@...> wrote:
On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 11:53 AM, David Millward wrote:
I don't know to what you refer...
David, I was responding to Byron's question about the meaning of the acronym PTO.
Robert
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Full circle. Now, that's good karma!
On 08/26/2020 9:48 PM Curt Daniels via groups.io <jrbatso@...> wrote:
Or ?in WW2 Pacific Theater of Operations.
On Aug 26, 2020, at 8:48 PM, BYRON CHAMPLIN <chamby@...> wrote:
Or "Paid Time Off." And in the U.S. it also means "Parent Teacher Organization," in local schools.?
Byron?
On 08/26/2020 8:06 PM Malcolm Sleight <tykemalcolm@...> wrote:
Depends on where you are.
In England and in the English language it usually means "please turn over"
However, in the US business world it means "personal time off".
Sorry chaps,
but I don't understand how i came into this conversation; hence my response.
As far as I am concerned:
(pi? ti? o? ) also P.T.O. PTO is a written abbreviation for 'please turn over'. You write it at the bottom of a page to indicate that there is more writing on the other side.
Apparently, n'our days it has different connotations, but for me it remains as stated.
david
------ Original Message ------
From: "BYRON CHAMPLIN" <chamby@...>
To: [email protected]; "Robert" <robertdunlop@...>
Sent: Wednesday, 26 Aug, 20 At 21:22
Subject: Re: [TooFatLardies] Whither the PTO?
And I appreciate the response.
Byron
On 08/26/2020 4:15 PM Robert <
robertdunlop@...> wrote:
On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 11:53 AM, David Millward wrote:
I don't know to what you refer...
David, I was responding to Byron's question about the meaning of the acronym PTO.
Robert
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Or ?in WW2 Pacific Theater of Operations.
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On Aug 26, 2020, at 8:48 PM, BYRON CHAMPLIN <chamby@...> wrote:
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Or "Paid Time Off." And in the U.S. it also means "Parent Teacher Organization," in local schools.?
Byron?
On 08/26/2020 8:06 PM Malcolm Sleight <tykemalcolm@...> wrote:
Depends on where you are.
In England and in the English language it usually means "please turn over"
However, in the US business world it means "personal time off".
Sorry chaps,
but I don't understand how i came into this conversation; hence my response.
As far as I am concerned:
(pi? ti? o? ) also P.T.O. PTO is a written abbreviation for 'please turn over'. You write it at the bottom of a page to indicate that there is more writing on the other side.
Apparently, n'our days it has different connotations, but for me it remains as stated.
david
------ Original Message ------
From: "BYRON CHAMPLIN" <chamby@...>
To: [email protected]; "Robert" <robertdunlop@...>
Sent: Wednesday, 26 Aug, 20 At 21:22
Subject: Re: [TooFatLardies] Whither the PTO?
And I appreciate the response.
Byron
On 08/26/2020 4:15 PM Robert <
robertdunlop@...> wrote:
On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 11:53 AM, David Millward wrote:
I don't know to what you refer...
David, I was responding to Byron's question about the meaning of the acronym PTO.
Robert
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Or "Paid Time Off." And in the U.S. it also means "Parent Teacher Organization," in local schools.?
Byron?
On 08/26/2020 8:06 PM Malcolm Sleight <tykemalcolm@...> wrote:
Depends on where you are.
In England and in the English language it usually means "please turn over"
However, in the US business world it means "personal time off".
Sorry chaps,
but I don't understand how i came into this conversation; hence my response.
As far as I am concerned:
(pi? ti? o? ) also P.T.O. PTO is a written abbreviation for 'please turn over'. You write it at the bottom of a page to indicate that there is more writing on the other side.
Apparently, n'our days it has different connotations, but for me it remains as stated.
david
------ Original Message ------
From: "BYRON CHAMPLIN" <chamby@...>
To: [email protected]; "Robert" <robertdunlop@...>
Sent: Wednesday, 26 Aug, 20 At 21:22
Subject: Re: [TooFatLardies] Whither the PTO?
And I appreciate the response.
Byron
On 08/26/2020 4:15 PM Robert <
robertdunlop@...> wrote:
On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 11:53 AM, David Millward wrote:
I don't know to what you refer...
David, I was responding to Byron's question about the meaning of the acronym PTO.
Robert
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Depends on where you are.
In England and in the English language it usually means "please turn over"
However, in the US business world it means "personal time off".
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Sorry chaps,
but I don't understand how i came into this conversation; hence my response.
As far as I am concerned:
(pi? ti? o? ) also
P.T.O.
PTO is a written abbreviation for 'please turn over'. You write it at the bottom of a page to indicate that there is more writing
on the other side.
Apparently, n'our days it has different connotations, but for me it remains as stated.
david
------ Original Message ------
From: "BYRON CHAMPLIN" <chamby@...>
To: [email protected]; "Robert" <robertdunlop@...>
Sent: Wednesday, 26 Aug, 20 At 21:22
Subject: Re: [TooFatLardies] Whither the PTO?
And I appreciate the response.
Byron
On 08/26/2020 4:15 PM Robert <robertdunlop@...> wrote:
On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 11:53 AM, David Millward wrote:
I don't know to what you refer...
David, I was responding to Byron's question about the meaning of the acronym PTO.
Robert
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Two (or three, or four) peoples separated by a common language.?
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On Aug 26, 2020, at 6:16 PM, David Millward via groups.io <exscolari@...> wrote:
? Sorry chaps, but I don't understand how i came into this conversation; hence my response. As far as I am concerned: (pi? ti? o? ) also P.T.O. PTO is a written abbreviation for 'please turn over'. You write it at the bottom of a page to indicate that there is more writing on the other side.
Apparently, n'our days it has different connotations, but for me it remains as stated. david
------ Original Message ------
From: "BYRON CHAMPLIN" <chamby@...>
To: [email protected]; "Robert" <robertdunlop@...>
Sent: Wednesday, 26 Aug, 20 At 21:22
Subject: Re: [TooFatLardies] Whither the PTO?
And I appreciate the response.
Byron On 08/26/2020 4:15 PM Robert <robertdunlop@...> wrote:
On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 11:53 AM, David Millward wrote:
I don't know to what you refer... David, I was responding to Byron's question about the meaning of the acronym PTO.
Robert
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Sorry chaps, but I don't understand how i came into this conversation; hence my response. As far as I am concerned: (pi? ti? o? ) also P.T.O. PTO is a written abbreviation for 'please turn over'. You write it at the bottom of a page to indicate that there is more writing on the other side.
Apparently, n'our days it has different connotations, but for me it remains as stated. david
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From: "BYRON CHAMPLIN" <chamby@...>
To: [email protected]; "Robert" <robertdunlop@...>
Sent: Wednesday, 26 Aug, 20 At 21:22
Subject: Re: [TooFatLardies] Whither the PTO?
And I appreciate the response.
Byron On 08/26/2020 4:15 PM Robert <robertdunlop@...> wrote:
On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 11:53 AM, David Millward wrote:
I don't know to what you refer... David, I was responding to Byron's question about the meaning of the acronym PTO.
Robert
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And I appreciate the response.??
Byron
On 08/26/2020 4:15 PM Robert <robertdunlop@...> wrote:
On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 11:53 AM, David Millward wrote:
I don't know to what you refer...
David, I was responding to Byron's question about the meaning of the acronym PTO.
Robert
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On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 11:53 AM, David Millward wrote:
I don't know to what you refer...
David, I was responding to Byron's question about the meaning of the acronym PTO. Robert
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Sorry Robert, I don't know to what you refer... David
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Sent: Wednesday, 26 Aug, 20 At 08:36
Subject: Re: [TooFatLardies] Whither the PTO?
On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 07:00 PM, BYRON CHAMPLIN wrote:
PTO? Parent Teacher Organization?
Pacific Theatre of Operations.
Robert
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On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 07:00 PM, BYRON CHAMPLIN wrote:
PTO?? Parent Teacher Organization??
Pacific Theatre of Operations.
Robert
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Document Translation: Sturmgewehr 44 Assault Platoon Manual 1944
These guys produce quality YouTube videos, and now they’re looking for help translating this manual: ? ? I am not associated with either channel or individual, just seems interesting to me, and maybe to the CoC players here. ? Sent from for Windows 10 ?
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Re: Viking War in Dux Brit
A friend of mine wrote a suplement for playing with vikinga, franks ?and bretons. IIRC is named Dux Normanorum and it is posted at the Dux Facebook site. If you can't get it, tell me and I'll try to locate it.
El mar., 11 de agosto de 2020 5:34, Tom Downs < tdowns3@...> escribió:
I'm looking at playing Dux Brit in the Viking age.? Given that the Vikings raided Ireland and Scotland, I'm wondering whether the relevant armies in Dux Raiders should be modified to defend against the Vikings.
TIA
Tom from Seattle
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Re: Viking War in Dux Brit
Anyone researching forces available to invader’s or defenders of Britain should join the Society of Ancients.?
Also the DBMM list many experts that can advise.?
Best Regards
Mike Leese
(N. Wales)
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On 12 Aug 2020, at 00:07, Doug Melville <dougmelville@...> wrote:
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I think some blanket assertions, such as 'all cavalry would be light' are unhelpful. Pictish illustrations show cavalry that could be Northumbrian or Pictish with few distinctions.
There is also very limited evidence of significant Viking raids other than the far North and isles. Perhaps because as one Viking guide advised, if you reach Scotland turn South, for there is little wealth and much hard fighting...
Hi Tom,
I very much doubt that the forces you see in the Raiders supplement are accurate for the period of the Viking raids on Scotland. You are talking about a period of 300-400 years from the departure of the Romans to the recording of the first Viking raid on Iona
in 795AD. So plenty of time for groups to evolve their style of fighting into something rather different. Certainly no chariots for a start, they were already anachronistic for Dux Brit.
Over the next 100 years to 900 AD, in part under pressure of the Vikings who occupied the islands to the north and west of Scotland, you saw the merger of the Kingdom of the Gaels (Scotti) of Dal Riata with that of Pictland into a unified Kingdom of Alba. While
the Kingdom of Strathclyde persisted it was to be absorbed over the next 150 years into the new Kingdom as would the Angles of Lothian in the southeast to create what we would now recognise as Scotland following the battle of Carham in 1018. A mixture of different
fighting styles and cultures all influencing each other through regular bouts of warfare between them as well as with marauding Norsemen.
Information on how forces of this period fought is scanty. You would be looking at a switch from primarily raiding forces to men of a more settled state defending their own land from the seaborne raiders. So a similar transformation as was the case with the
Saxon kingdoms in the south to a reliance on infantry in shieldwalls seems likely. My best guess would be a mixture of a Thegn fighting alongside his armoured Hearthguard, supported by groups of spearmen with perhaps a sprinkling of the raider warrior types
as in the current lists. Any cavalry would be light. So I would say that you are free to create your own distinct blend.
For more information I would recommend “The Makers of Scotland” by Tim Clarkson.
John Ewing
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I think some blanket assertions, such as 'all cavalry would be light' are unhelpful. Pictish illustrations show cavalry that could be Northumbrian or Pictish with few distinctions.
There is also very limited evidence of significant Viking raids other than the far North and isles. Perhaps because as one Viking guide advised, if you reach Scotland turn South, for there is little wealth and much hard fighting...
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Hi Tom,
I very much doubt that the forces you see in the Raiders supplement are accurate for the period of the Viking raids on Scotland. You are talking about a period of 300-400 years from the departure of the Romans to the recording of the first Viking raid on Iona
in 795AD. So plenty of time for groups to evolve their style of fighting into something rather different. Certainly no chariots for a start, they were already anachronistic for Dux Brit.
Over the next 100 years to 900 AD, in part under pressure of the Vikings who occupied the islands to the north and west of Scotland, you saw the merger of the Kingdom of the Gaels (Scotti) of Dal Riata with that of Pictland into a unified Kingdom of Alba. While
the Kingdom of Strathclyde persisted it was to be absorbed over the next 150 years into the new Kingdom as would the Angles of Lothian in the southeast to create what we would now recognise as Scotland following the battle of Carham in 1018. A mixture of different
fighting styles and cultures all influencing each other through regular bouts of warfare between them as well as with marauding Norsemen.
Information on how forces of this period fought is scanty. You would be looking at a switch from primarily raiding forces to men of a more settled state defending their own land from the seaborne raiders. So a similar transformation as was the case with the
Saxon kingdoms in the south to a reliance on infantry in shieldwalls seems likely. My best guess would be a mixture of a Thegn fighting alongside his armoured Hearthguard, supported by groups of spearmen with perhaps a sprinkling of the raider warrior types
as in the current lists. Any cavalry would be light. So I would say that you are free to create your own distinct blend.
For more information I would recommend “The Makers of Scotland” by Tim Clarkson.
John Ewing
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Re: Viking War in Dux Brit
Following up on what Chris said, a number of early "Specials" have additional rules for DuxB:
- Summer 2012 - Dux B in other settings, Dux B campaign additions, Dux B coastal raid scenario
- Christmas 2012 - Dux B Vikings rules, Weather effects in Dux B
- Summer 2013 - multiplayer games in Dux B, Dux B kingdom specific terrain charts
- Christmas 2013 - Dux B Saxon raid scenario
- Summer 2014 - Dux B Samurai rules
- Christmas 2015 - Magic in Dux B
- Summer 2017 - Dux B Trojan Wars rules
Cheers! John
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Re: Viking War in Dux Brit
The Christmas Special for 2012 has the rules for Vikings, the Welsh and the Anglo-Saxons. I'm not sure if these are the most up-to-date version of Chris Stoesen's?rules, but they are likely the best place to start. He may have added others over time.
- Chris
Hi Tom,
I very much doubt that the forces you see in the Raiders supplement are accurate for the period of the Viking raids on Scotland. You are talking about a period of 300-400 years from the departure of the Romans to the recording of the first Viking raid on Iona in 795AD. So plenty of time for groups to evolve their style of fighting into something rather different. Certainly no chariots for a start, they were already anachronistic for Dux Brit.
Over the next 100 years to 900 AD, in part under pressure of the Vikings who occupied the islands to the north and west of Scotland, you saw the merger of the Kingdom of the Gaels (Scotti) of Dal Riata with that of Pictland into a unified Kingdom of Alba. While the Kingdom of Strathclyde persisted it was to be absorbed over the next 150 years into the new Kingdom as would the Angles of Lothian in the southeast to create what we would now recognise as Scotland following the battle of Carham in 1018. A mixture of different fighting styles and cultures all influencing each other through regular bouts of warfare between them as well as with marauding Norsemen.
Information on how forces of this period fought is scanty. You would be looking at a switch from primarily raiding forces to men of a more settled state defending their own land from the seaborne raiders. So a similar transformation as was the case with the Saxon kingdoms in the south to a reliance on infantry in shieldwalls seems likely. My best guess would be a mixture of a Thegn fighting alongside his armoured Hearthguard, supported by groups of spearmen with perhaps a sprinkling of the raider warrior types as in the current lists. Any cavalry would be light. So I would say that you are free to create your own distinct blend.
For more information I would recommend “The Makers of Scotland” by Tim Clarkson.
John Ewing
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Re: Viking War in Dux Brit
Hi Tom,
I very much doubt that the forces you see in the Raiders supplement are accurate for the period of the Viking raids on Scotland. You are talking about a period of 300-400 years from the departure of the Romans to the recording of the first Viking raid on Iona in 795AD. So plenty of time for groups to evolve their style of fighting into something rather different. Certainly no chariots for a start, they were already anachronistic for Dux Brit.
Over the next 100 years to 900 AD, in part under pressure of the Vikings who occupied the islands to the north and west of Scotland, you saw the merger of the Kingdom of the Gaels (Scotti) of Dal Riata with that of Pictland into a unified Kingdom of Alba. While the Kingdom of Strathclyde persisted it was to be absorbed over the next 150 years into the new Kingdom as would the Angles of Lothian in the southeast to create what we would now recognise as Scotland following the battle of Carham in 1018. A mixture of different fighting styles and cultures all influencing each other through regular bouts of warfare between them as well as with marauding Norsemen.
Information on how forces of this period fought is scanty. You would be looking at a switch from primarily raiding forces to men of a more settled state defending their own land from the seaborne raiders. So a similar transformation as was the case with the Saxon kingdoms in the south to a reliance on infantry in shieldwalls seems likely. My best guess would be a mixture of a Thegn fighting alongside his armoured Hearthguard, supported by groups of spearmen with perhaps a sprinkling of the raider warrior types as in the current lists. Any cavalry would be light. So I would say that you are free to create your own distinct blend.
For more information I would recommend “The Makers of Scotland” by Tim Clarkson.
John Ewing
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I'm looking at playing Dux Brit in the Viking age.? Given that the Vikings raided Ireland and Scotland, I'm wondering whether the relevant armies in Dux Raiders should be modified to defend against the Vikings.
TIA
Tom from Seattle
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Rich like most of us suffers from Butterfly sindrom.
jdg
Typical wargamers… project nearing completion, and distracted by new shiny project…
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Doug
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of John Gephart
Sent: 06 August 2020 17:45
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [TooFatLardies] Whither the PTO?
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Rich had said that the Far East Supplement was at the layout stage back in January.
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On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 9:38 AM Robert Sprague <rob12763@...> wrote:
Shouldn’t that be Far East as my Russians are from the East.?
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Easter, I'm sure he said Easter.
I think there's a real challenge in being a 1.5 man band when expectations are high and you want to maintain quality control.
Me? I'm just wondering how L. Carthaginian is going to look in Infamy, so I can figure out what I need to add to my existing figures
before there's a run on the market!
Wargame companies offering help and advice on managing education at home during the covid-19 crisis?
That wouldn't be the strangest thing to happen this year! ;^D
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On Wed, 5 Aug 2020 19:00 BYRON CHAMPLIN, <chamby@...> wrote:
PTO?? Parent Teacher Organization??
Battlegroup has a new PTO book coming out.
Bolt Action has a new PTO book coming out.
Last I heard, Richard promised to get up at 5:00 in the morning every day to finish up formatting for CoC's PTO book until it was done.? That was last Christmas.
Some of us still look to the East.
Tom Huntington
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Robert
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