I was at CBGBs in the 80’s and that actually looks better than I remember the bathroom. The punk club In Philly (the Kennel Club) had a toilet seat hanging on the wall outside the bathroom. I went to a number of punk clubs throughout the US back when I was fun, knew a few bands, played out a few times myself. They all were pretty much In the same shape. That is some great art work. Thanks for posting.
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I’ll see if I can find it.?
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Mike Leese
(N. Wales)
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On 2 Jul 2020, at 22:57, Malcolm Sleight <tykemalcolm@...> wrote:
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I did, many, many, years ago.
The closest game to that now is Distant Worlds, and it still plays on W10.
Has anyone ever played Stars ?
A space conquest/strategy/diplomacy game written I think for DOS but I played it in Windows 3.11 for 16 players
Best Regards
Mike Leese
(N. Wales)
On 2 Jul 2020, at 18:12, Keith Davies via groups.io <keith.davies1960@...> wrote:
? My first crack at a computer aid for war gaming was writing Basic on a ZX Spectrum to manage calculations for Steve Birnie’s Napoleonic Naval games - along with record keeping - print outs via Sinclair thermal printer....
Those were the days....
On 2 Jul 2020, at 17:41, Doug Melville <dougmelville@...> wrote:
?
I remember getting incredibly excited a few years back when we went through the store room and turned up a genuine green screen laptop the same as the one used to control the autoguns in Aliens. Unfortunately there was a strict policy that it had to go for
disposal and I had to watch it? being carted off...
Doug
We had an older computer at work but I only used it twice. I am not even sure of the make or model so I didn't mention it. Small green round screen in a microwave sized box, but there may have been other boxes. I just remember cables and not
having to use correction tape like I did at home.
Started miniature gaming in 1962. WW2. By 1970 had played ancients and Napoleonics so I guess my gaming background was well rounded (board games in 1968 - Battle of Britain). Although there was that older guy. You couldn't always be sure of
what game he would run, like a Viking raid somewhere in the Med. We had axes, they had pikes. He also was into that fantasy stuff. Gary had a wide range of interests.
Mike Reese
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Regards
Mike Leese
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It was the amount of planning, diplomacy, scouting and avoiding getting into a war with neighbours while playing on the paranoias of players on the other side of the galaxy.?
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Mike Leese
(N. Wales)
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On 2 Jul 2020, at 18:49, James Catchpole via groups.io <jlcatchpole@...> wrote:
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This one??!
I used to play it a bit...
Has anyone ever played Stars ?
A space conquest/strategy/diplomacy game written I think for DOS but I played it in Windows 3.11 for 16 players
Best Regards
Mike Leese
(N. Wales)
On 2 Jul 2020, at 18:12, Keith Davies via <keith.davies1960=[email protected]> wrote:
? My first crack at a computer aid for war gaming was writing Basic on a ZX Spectrum to manage calculations for Steve Birnie’s Napoleonic Naval games - along with record keeping - print outs via Sinclair thermal printer....
Those were the days....
?
I remember getting incredibly excited a few years back when we went through the store room and turned up a genuine green screen laptop the same as the one used to control the autoguns in Aliens. Unfortunately there was a strict policy that it had to go for
disposal and I had to watch it? being carted off...
Doug
We had an older computer at work but I only used it twice. I am not even sure of the make or model so I didn't mention it. Small green round screen in a microwave sized box, but there may have been other boxes. I just remember cables and not
having to use correction tape like I did at home.
Started miniature gaming in 1962. WW2. By 1970 had played ancients and Napoleonics so I guess my gaming background was well rounded (board games in 1968 - Battle of Britain). Although there was that older guy. You couldn't always be sure of
what game he would run, like a Viking raid somewhere in the Med. We had axes, they had pikes. He also was into that fantasy stuff. Gary had a wide range of interests.
Mike Reese
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Regards
Mike Leese
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I did, many, many, years ago.
The closest game to that now is Distant Worlds, and it still plays on W10.
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Has anyone ever played Stars ?
A space conquest/strategy/diplomacy game written I think for DOS but I played it in Windows 3.11 for 16 players
Best Regards
Mike Leese
(N. Wales)
On 2 Jul 2020, at 18:12, Keith Davies via groups.io <keith.davies1960@...> wrote:
? My first crack at a computer aid for war gaming was writing Basic on a ZX Spectrum to manage calculations for Steve Birnie’s Napoleonic Naval games - along with record keeping - print outs via Sinclair thermal printer....
Those were the days....
On 2 Jul 2020, at 17:41, Doug Melville <dougmelville@...> wrote:
?
I remember getting incredibly excited a few years back when we went through the store room and turned up a genuine green screen laptop the same as the one used to control the autoguns in Aliens. Unfortunately there was a strict policy that it had to go for
disposal and I had to watch it? being carted off...
Doug
We had an older computer at work but I only used it twice. I am not even sure of the make or model so I didn't mention it. Small green round screen in a microwave sized box, but there may have been other boxes. I just remember cables and not
having to use correction tape like I did at home.
Started miniature gaming in 1962. WW2. By 1970 had played ancients and Napoleonics so I guess my gaming background was well rounded (board games in 1968 - Battle of Britain). Although there was that older guy. You couldn't always be sure of
what game he would run, like a Viking raid somewhere in the Med. We had axes, they had pikes. He also was into that fantasy stuff. Gary had a wide range of interests.
Mike Reese
--
Regards
Mike Leese
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Re: was Infamy, now Old Electronics
This one??!
I used to play it a bit...
Has anyone ever played Stars ?
A space conquest/strategy/diplomacy game written I think for DOS but I played it in Windows 3.11 for 16 players
Best Regards
Mike Leese
(N. Wales)
On 2 Jul 2020, at 18:12, Keith Davies via <keith.davies1960=[email protected]> wrote:
? My first crack at a computer aid for war gaming was writing Basic on a ZX Spectrum to manage calculations for Steve Birnie’s Napoleonic Naval games - along with record keeping - print outs via Sinclair thermal printer....
Those were the days....
?
I remember getting incredibly excited a few years back when we went through the store room and turned up a genuine green screen laptop the same as the one used to control the autoguns in Aliens. Unfortunately there was a strict policy that it had to go for
disposal and I had to watch it? being carted off...
Doug
We had an older computer at work but I only used it twice. I am not even sure of the make or model so I didn't mention it. Small green round screen in a microwave sized box, but there may have been other boxes. I just remember cables and not
having to use correction tape like I did at home.
Started miniature gaming in 1962. WW2. By 1970 had played ancients and Napoleonics so I guess my gaming background was well rounded (board games in 1968 - Battle of Britain). Although there was that older guy. You couldn't always be sure of
what game he would run, like a Viking raid somewhere in the Med. We had axes, they had pikes. He also was into that fantasy stuff. Gary had a wide range of interests.
Mike Reese
--
Regards
Mike Leese
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Has anyone ever played Stars ?
A space conquest/strategy/diplomacy game written I think for DOS but I played it in Windows 3.11 for 16 players
Best Regards
Mike Leese
(N. Wales)
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On 2 Jul 2020, at 18:12, Keith Davies via groups.io <keith.davies1960@...> wrote:
? My first crack at a computer aid for war gaming was writing Basic on a ZX Spectrum to manage calculations for Steve Birnie’s Napoleonic Naval games - along with record keeping - print outs via Sinclair thermal printer....
Those were the days....
On 2 Jul 2020, at 17:41, Doug Melville <dougmelville@...> wrote:
?
I remember getting incredibly excited a few years back when we went through the store room and turned up a genuine green screen laptop the same as the one used to control the autoguns in Aliens. Unfortunately there was a strict policy that it had to go for
disposal and I had to watch it? being carted off...
Doug
We had an older computer at work but I only used it twice. I am not even sure of the make or model so I didn't mention it. Small green round screen in a microwave sized box, but there may have been other boxes. I just remember cables and not
having to use correction tape like I did at home.
Started miniature gaming in 1962. WW2. By 1970 had played ancients and Napoleonics so I guess my gaming background was well rounded (board games in 1968 - Battle of Britain). Although there was that older guy. You couldn't always be sure of
what game he would run, like a Viking raid somewhere in the Med. We had axes, they had pikes. He also was into that fantasy stuff. Gary had a wide range of interests.
Mike Reese
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Looking at that CBGB pic and thinking “wow, Debbie Harry is 75.” I’m getting old(er).
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My first crack at a computer aid for war gaming was writing Basic on a ZX Spectrum to manage calculations for Steve Birnie’s Napoleonic Naval games - along with record keeping - print outs via Sinclair thermal printer....
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On 2 Jul 2020, at 17:41, Doug Melville <dougmelville@...> wrote:
?
I remember getting incredibly excited a few years back when we went through the store room and turned up a genuine green screen laptop the same as the one used to control the autoguns in Aliens. Unfortunately there was a strict policy that it had to go for
disposal and I had to watch it? being carted off...
Doug
We had an older computer at work but I only used it twice. I am not even sure of the make or model so I didn't mention it. Small green round screen in a microwave sized box, but there may have been other boxes. I just remember cables and not
having to use correction tape like I did at home.
Started miniature gaming in 1962. WW2. By 1970 had played ancients and Napoleonics so I guess my gaming background was well rounded (board games in 1968 - Battle of Britain). Although there was that older guy. You couldn't always be sure of
what game he would run, like a Viking raid somewhere in the Med. We had axes, they had pikes. He also was into that fantasy stuff. Gary had a wide range of interests.
Mike Reese
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Thanks guys. I foresee more expense in my immediate future. Lucky I ordered some Victrix Spanish and I have the Victrix Carthaginian box... just need to add cavalry I expect...
Doug
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Rich has previously announced his intention to produce a further 2 expansion supplements to extend the “Infamy, Infamy!” Rules to cover other aspects of Rome’s expansion around the Mediterranean. First up will be one covering the Punic
Wars and Rome’s campaigns in Spain, North Africa and Greece. The second expansion will explore the conflicts at the Eastern end of the Med including the Dacian campaigns and I would expect those against the Parthians and possibly the Jewish Revolt.
You can find out more in the recent TFL Oddcasts on YouTube.
John
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I remember getting incredibly excited a few years back when we went through the store room and turned up a genuine green screen laptop the same as the one used to control the autoguns in Aliens. Unfortunately there was a strict policy that it had to go for
disposal and I had to watch it? being carted off...
Doug
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We had an older computer at work but I only used it twice. I am not even sure of the make or model so I didn't mention it. Small green round screen in a microwave sized box, but there may have been other boxes. I just remember cables and not
having to use correction tape like I did at home.
Started miniature gaming in 1962. WW2. By 1970 had played ancients and Napoleonics so I guess my gaming background was well rounded (board games in 1968 - Battle of Britain). Although there was that older guy. You couldn't always be sure of
what game he would run, like a Viking raid somewhere in the Med. We had axes, they had pikes. He also was into that fantasy stuff. Gary had a wide range of interests.
Mike Reese
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I bow to your expertise in men's toilets... or should that be expertise of?
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the loos in the 100 club were much better kept than that!
On 02/07/2020 15:17:46, Doug Melville <dougmelville@...> wrote:
This ain't no mudd club or CBGB...
;)
OK talk about detailed terrain!?
CBGB's Men's room circa 1980!? (there is some seriously misapplied skills here!)? BTW CBGB was a famous punk club in NYC.
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Rich has previously announced his intention to produce a further 2 expansion supplements to extend the “Infamy, Infamy!” Rules to cover other aspects of Rome’s expansion around the Mediterranean. First up will be one covering the Punic Wars and Rome’s campaigns in Spain, North Africa and Greece. The second expansion will explore the conflicts at the Eastern end of the Med including the Dacian campaigns and I would expect those against the Parthians and possibly the Jewish Revolt.
You can find out more in the recent TFL Oddcasts on YouTube.
John
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I love this!? Particularly the Talking Heads reference!?
Byron?
On 07/02/2020 10:17 AM Doug Melville <dougmelville@...> wrote:
This ain't no mudd club or CBGB...
;)
OK talk about detailed terrain!?
CBGB's Men's room circa 1980!? (there is some seriously misapplied skills here!)? BTW CBGB was a famous punk club in NYC.
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We had an older computer at work but I only used it twice. I am not even sure of the make or model so I didn't mention it. Small green round screen in a microwave sized box, but there may have been other boxes. I just remember cables and not having to use correction tape like I did at home. Started miniature gaming in 1962. WW2. By 1970 had played ancients and Napoleonics so I guess my gaming background was well rounded (board games in 1968 - Battle of Britain). Although there was that older guy. You couldn't always be sure of what game he would run, like a Viking raid somewhere in the Med. We had axes, they had pikes. He also was into that fantasy stuff. Gary had a wide range of interests.
Mike Reese
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Re: Camouflage Booklets by Mike Starmer
I may have the italy one iff I can find it.
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Does anyone have copies of Mike Starmer's camougflage books that I could beg, buy or borrow? I'm after the Sicily and Italy and the Alamein and After ones. I have the Sicily Italy one but am damned if I can find it. I've tried sending an e-mail to the author to buy them but, as yet, I've had no reply. I'm trying to do forces for the Tunisian Campaign and the Mareth Line. Thanks for any help anyone can give. Jon
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Camouflage Booklets by Mike Starmer
Does anyone have copies of Mike Starmer's camougflage books that I could beg, buy or borrow? I'm after the Sicily and Italy and the Alamein and After ones. I have the Sicily Italy one but am damned if I can find it. I've tried sending an e-mail to the author to buy them but, as yet, I've had no reply. I'm trying to do forces for the Tunisian Campaign and the Mareth Line. Thanks for any help anyone can give. Jon
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the loos in the 100 club were much better kept than that!
On 02/07/2020 15:17:46, Doug Melville <dougmelville@...> wrote:
This ain't no mudd club or CBGB...
;)
OK talk about detailed terrain!?
CBGB's Men's room circa 1980!? (there is some seriously misapplied skills here!)? BTW CBGB was a famous punk club in NYC.
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apparently 1 earlier (Punic) and one eastern (dacians and Parthians) to come
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On 02/07/2020 15:14:33, Doug Melville <dougmelville@...> wrote:
Ok has anyone else read the blurb on the back that says its the first of three sets? What's all that about then?
Doug
I think the Romans ones are number of Pilums left, and the others are for javelins.
On the subject of markers, what are the numbered?ones for? I & II for the Romans, 1,2,3 for the opposition
And what are the little shields for? Raised shields? Not shieldwall or brace as those have markers.
Caliver and Great Escape Games still have some of the Victrix Germans in stock.
/K
Thanks Doug. I’ll keep them in mind.?
I might hold out for the Victrix when they re-appear...
?
I've ordered the 1st Corps Germanic Tribes but they haven't arrived yet. If they are like the other 1st Corps I have, and the pictures look like they are, they will be big, and the sculpts have some odd planes, but I really like their slightly cartoony WW2
stuff.
The disadvantage is no LBMS transfers specifically for this range. 1st Corps are hoping to have transfers available in a matter of a couple of weeks.
Cheers
Doug
Ours not so much, once it nearly took the head off the IBM engineer trying to fix it… replaced in the end with STK 4400 Online/Offline Silos… much more reliable..
?
The most fun storage related issue was when the whole system went down one day. Turns out the painter and decorator in the tape library had rested his ladder against a tape rack. It toppled and
the domino effect took out the EPO button. Everything stopped… ?
He tried to deny it, but he had been caught on the security camera…
?
?
As for Infamy, I looked at the Victrix Germans, but out of stock everywhere. Didn’t like the look of the Warlord ones as they seem to have a lot of clubs and swords.
The Foundry ones seem to be ?16 a pack rather than the ?12 of every other range!
The Crusader range looks nice, then I saw the First Corps range, anyone have any of these, if so, what’s their impression of them in the flesh so to speak?
?
?
I remember calculating that the storage capacity I now have in my phone would have cost many 10s of millions when I started mucking around with computing machines.
? ?(And taken up most of a decent sized cold storage facility .. )
?
Ok, enough of feeling old, what about Infamy?
?
?
Those MSS storage units were cool for the day - those that our company had worked like a charm.
That would be the IBM3420 tape drive. I remember those.... I also remember the IBM MSS storage unit - bullet like tape cartridges...
I’d like to say happy days, but...?
On 30 Jun 2020, at 20:19, Kevin Walker <sage@...> wrote:
?
Anyone remember the large reel to reel tapes that where?maybe 3/4" or 1" in width that dropped down from the reels for processing?
There were also the metal drums and later after that the ticker tape I remember seeing when my dad was early into his programming days in the 60s or was it early 70s IIRC.
My first computer I owned outside of home was a Mac Plus and oh the joy of finally affording a 20MB hard drive over swapping those 3.5" disks.? :)
?
On the TRS80 did you have the Dancing Demon? When I started with ICL in the 1970sw they were just moving on from the 1900 to the 2900 series mainframes. I used to punch my test program instructions
onto paper tape so that I could run them multiple times. 200mbye hard disks and 8" singe sided simgle density floppt discs with 1/4 mbyte to run the word processing software on a 7502. We needed 2mByte memory on the mainframe to load the operating system.
On Tuesday, 30 June 2020, 19:11:37 BST, Gary Keep via
<lordhay=[email protected]> wrote:
I remember fiddling with the volume and tone on my cassette player to load TRS80 Games.
Then the wonderful Atari ST1040 came along with floppy drives, perfect for the SSI games.
A great computer game company now sadly gone
?
Sent from
for Windows 10
?
?
First Basic program I wrote was stored on a 5 3/4"?
And the last.
I was digging around in some old junk yesterday and came across a 3.5” floppy, which I showed to my 20 year old nephew. He at least didn’t comment something along
the lines of – ‘cool, someone 3d printed the save icon’.
?
I remember with the 5.25” ones you could get double duty out of them by clipping the case and turning them over. Not reliable but a damn sight better than tape cassettes.
?
And the college was still showing the use of punch cards when I started there.
?
?
Doug
?
?
8", 5.25" or 3".
?
On 30/06/2020 14:16, Peter Mellett wrote:
Mine was 12TB, I had it delivered on a lorry full of floppy disks.
On 30/06/2020 12:58, Fredd Bloggs wrote:
12gb, no wonder there are issues! 12mb you mean.
And mine has not arrived, but then.... I have not ordered a copy yet.
On 30/06/2020 12:56:17, don.avis via
<don.avis@...> wrote:
If yours still hasn't arrived email Richard Clarke at?
sales@...?and he will sort it for you.??There
has been an issue with some EMails bouncing as the file size is over 12GB
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This ain't no mudd club or CBGB...
;)
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Show quoted text
OK talk about detailed terrain!?
CBGB's Men's room circa 1980!? (there is some seriously misapplied skills here!)? BTW CBGB was a famous punk club in NYC.
|
Ok has anyone else read the blurb on the back that says its the first of three sets? What's all that about then?
Doug
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
I think the Romans ones are number of Pilums left, and the others are for javelins.
On the subject of markers, what are the numbered?ones for? I & II for the Romans, 1,2,3 for the opposition
And what are the little shields for? Raised shields? Not shieldwall or brace as those have markers.
Caliver and Great Escape Games still have some of the Victrix Germans in stock.
/K
Thanks Doug. I’ll keep them in mind.?
I might hold out for the Victrix when they re-appear...
?
I've ordered the 1st Corps Germanic Tribes but they haven't arrived yet. If they are like the other 1st Corps I have, and the pictures look like they are, they will be big, and the sculpts have some odd planes, but I really like their slightly cartoony WW2
stuff.
The disadvantage is no LBMS transfers specifically for this range. 1st Corps are hoping to have transfers available in a matter of a couple of weeks.
Cheers
Doug
Ours not so much, once it nearly took the head off the IBM engineer trying to fix it… replaced in the end with STK 4400 Online/Offline Silos… much more reliable..
?
The most fun storage related issue was when the whole system went down one day. Turns out the painter and decorator in the tape library had rested his ladder against a tape rack. It toppled and
the domino effect took out the EPO button. Everything stopped… ?
He tried to deny it, but he had been caught on the security camera…
?
?
As for Infamy, I looked at the Victrix Germans, but out of stock everywhere. Didn’t like the look of the Warlord ones as they seem to have a lot of clubs and swords.
The Foundry ones seem to be ?16 a pack rather than the ?12 of every other range!
The Crusader range looks nice, then I saw the First Corps range, anyone have any of these, if so, what’s their impression of them in the flesh so to speak?
?
?
I remember calculating that the storage capacity I now have in my phone would have cost many 10s of millions when I started mucking around with computing machines.
? ?(And taken up most of a decent sized cold storage facility .. )
?
Ok, enough of feeling old, what about Infamy?
?
?
Those MSS storage units were cool for the day - those that our company had worked like a charm.
That would be the IBM3420 tape drive. I remember those.... I also remember the IBM MSS storage unit - bullet like tape cartridges...
I’d like to say happy days, but...?
On 30 Jun 2020, at 20:19, Kevin Walker <sage@...> wrote:
?
Anyone remember the large reel to reel tapes that where?maybe 3/4" or 1" in width that dropped down from the reels for processing?
There were also the metal drums and later after that the ticker tape I remember seeing when my dad was early into his programming days in the 60s or was it early 70s IIRC.
My first computer I owned outside of home was a Mac Plus and oh the joy of finally affording a 20MB hard drive over swapping those 3.5" disks.? :)
?
On the TRS80 did you have the Dancing Demon? When I started with ICL in the 1970sw they were just moving on from the 1900 to the 2900 series mainframes. I used to punch my test program instructions
onto paper tape so that I could run them multiple times. 200mbye hard disks and 8" singe sided simgle density floppt discs with 1/4 mbyte to run the word processing software on a 7502. We needed 2mByte memory on the mainframe to load the operating system.
On Tuesday, 30 June 2020, 19:11:37 BST, Gary Keep via
<lordhay=[email protected]> wrote:
I remember fiddling with the volume and tone on my cassette player to load TRS80 Games.
Then the wonderful Atari ST1040 came along with floppy drives, perfect for the SSI games.
A great computer game company now sadly gone
?
Sent from
for Windows 10
?
?
First Basic program I wrote was stored on a 5 3/4"?
And the last.
I was digging around in some old junk yesterday and came across a 3.5” floppy, which I showed to my 20 year old nephew. He at least didn’t comment something along
the lines of – ‘cool, someone 3d printed the save icon’.
?
I remember with the 5.25” ones you could get double duty out of them by clipping the case and turning them over. Not reliable but a damn sight better than tape cassettes.
?
And the college was still showing the use of punch cards when I started there.
?
?
Doug
?
?
8", 5.25" or 3".
?
On 30/06/2020 14:16, Peter Mellett wrote:
Mine was 12TB, I had it delivered on a lorry full of floppy disks.
On 30/06/2020 12:58, Fredd Bloggs wrote:
12gb, no wonder there are issues! 12mb you mean.
And mine has not arrived, but then.... I have not ordered a copy yet.
On 30/06/2020 12:56:17, don.avis via
<don.avis@...> wrote:
If yours still hasn't arrived email Richard Clarke at?
sales@...?and he will sort it for you.??There
has been an issue with some EMails bouncing as the file size is over 12GB
|
Michael Reese