On 1 Jul 2020, at 14:48, Malcolm Sleight <tykemalcolm@...> wrote:

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I learned PL/1 around 1976. The company I worked at paid another company to come in and teach PL/1 programming for 8 weeks. A couple of years after that, I learned IBM assembler the hard way - here's the spec., a manual, example program, and ask if you have questions. Never looked back - love assembler and that's been 90% of my work since, and still coding in assembler in my current job.

Malc.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Steve Burt <steve.and.mary.burt@...>
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2020 4:45 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [TooFatLardies] Infamy

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Ah yes, I also remember using a PDP11 - to boot it you had to toggle in the boot loader using the switches on the front, then it booted off its 8" floppy disk. Once running though, it retained its memory even when powered off because it used magnetic core memory.

On Wed, 1 Jul 2020 at 09:44, Fredd Bloggs <freddbloggs@...> wrote:

Gods, my first job we used DECwriters to boot a pdp rsx11. That had switchable 12" disks in solid cases, that if you breathed wrong while swapping over would lose data!

On 01/07/2020 09:40:50, Steve Burt <steve.and.mary.burt@...> wrote:

In my first software job, you had to write your code on paper forms with a pencil, and take it down to the punch card girls. It would then be turned into a card deck, run overnight and next morning you'd have a huge pile of paper on your desk because your program had core dumped. Rinse and repeat.

On Tue, 30 Jun 2020 at 19:09, Carole Flint <molly.moggins@...> wrote:

When I first started working as a computer operator, in what was then called Data Processing, in the late 1970s the smaller IBM S/370 mainframes (the 115 and 125 models only, I think) had their IPL microcode on 12" floppy disks. You always needed to have a spare in case the one you usually IPLed from had a read error. There was a small cupboard thing under the CPU console printer where the floppy drive was located.

Carole

Virus-free.

On 1 Jul 2020, at 14:01, Carole Flint <molly.moggins@...> wrote:

?I worked in a DP agency in St Martin's Lane, on the edge of Soho, for a while after Uni. We ran lots of work for marketing companies. Many of them had their data punched in by the punch "girls", actually about 30 middle-aged Chinese women, who all chain-smoked and shouted at one another in Cantonese. Occasionally, we had to go and collect trays of card decks to load up. The room was hellishly noisy and hot, and the smoke was horrible because there wasn't any aircon, just fans.

Carole

On 1 Jul 2020, at 11:58, Andrew Holmes via groups.io <nitpickergeneral@...> wrote:

?If you plug your kindle USB port into your computer, you can drag and drop pdf files straight in there. No need to send emails. If it's a "real" kindle the pictures are monochrome and not great resolution,? but otherwise okay. Text searchable but no annotations.?

Kind regards
Andrew Holmes

On Wed, 1 Jul 2020 at 11:20, Mike Irvin

<michaeljohnirvin@...> wrote:

I read my TFL stuff through Kindle on my I-pad. Just need to send the PDF to your Kindle account. You can also get Kindle on your lap-top.

Mike

On Wed, 1 Jul 2020 at 00:54, Mike Leese <mike.leese@...> wrote:

Thanks Carole, I’ll take a look. I’ve got some of the magazines on my Amazon App. It’s a pity an iPad can’t connect to a memory stick.?

Although it could be done via a network I think

Computer memory is OK it’s mine that’s shot.?

Best Regards

Mike Leese

(N. Wales)

On 30 Jun 2020, at 15:55, Carole Flint <molly.moggins@...> wrote:

?I wrote some mods to use 9YW armies based for FOG:R a few years ago. It is in one of the specials, Summer 2016 one I think, but it is a big change from basic SP. I've revised them since and I sent Rich a copy last year.

Carole

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Regards

Mike Leese

On 1 Jul 2020, at 09:45, John Ewing via groups.io <jonewing1@...> wrote:

?PDF only options were not included in the pre-order offer for “Infamy, Infamy!” but will be going onto the TFL website later this week Rich has said. You would still need to buy the Infamy card deck to get the full game effect if you did decide to take up the rules.

John

On 1 Jul 2020, at 09:37, Steve Burt <steve.and.mary.burt@...> wrote:

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The iPad can display PDFs if you put them in the 'Books' app on your computer.

There are also PDF displayers available.

On Wed, 1 Jul 2020 at 00:54, Mike Leese <mike.leese@...> wrote:

Thanks Carole, I’ll take a look. I’ve got some of the magazines on my Amazon App. It’s a pity an iPad can’t connect to a memory stick.?

Although it could be done via a network I think

Computer memory is OK it’s mine that’s shot.?

Best Regards

Mike Leese

(N. Wales)

On 30 Jun 2020, at 15:55, Carole Flint <molly.moggins@...> wrote:

?I wrote some mods to use 9YW armies based for FOG:R a few years ago. It is in one of the specials, Summer 2016 one I think, but it is a big change from basic SP. I've revised them since and I sent Rich a copy last year.

Carole

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Regards

Mike Leese

On 1 Jul 2020, at 08:16, Andrew Holmes via groups.io <nitpickergeneral@...> wrote:

?That brings back memories of using my Sinclair Spectrum for wargaming. I still have the book and the Spectrum in a cupboard somewhere. I wrote a program for WW2 desert warfare which was play tested at a local fair. Debugging it as we went. What fun.

Kind regards
Andrew Holmes

On Wed, 1 Jul 2020 at 0:54, Doug Melville

<dougmelville@...> wrote:

Sinclair Basic on a ZX81, stored on a C60 cassette, which stubbornly refused to load 90% of the time. A program to generate random D&D encounters. :)? It got much too big.

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Doug

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Thomas Nissvik
Sent: 30 June 2020 19:02
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [TooFatLardies] Infamy

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First Basic program I wrote was stored on a 5 3/4"?

And the last.

Den tis 30 juni 2020 20:00Doug Melville <dougmelville@...> skrev:

I was digging around in some old junk yesterday and came across a 3.5” floppy, which I showed to my 20 year old nephew. He at least didn’t comment something along the lines of – ‘cool, someone 3d printed the save icon’.

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I remember with the 5.25” ones you could get double duty out of them by clipping the case and turning them over. Not reliable but a damn sight better than tape cassettes.

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And the college was still showing the use of punch cards when I started there. ?

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Doug

On Wed, 1 Jul 2020 at 11:20, Mike Irvin

<michaeljohnirvin@...> wrote:

I read my TFL stuff through Kindle on my I-pad. Just need to send the PDF to your Kindle account. You can also get Kindle on your lap-top.

Mike

On Wed, 1 Jul 2020 at 00:54, Mike Leese <mike.leese@...> wrote:

Thanks Carole, I’ll take a look. I’ve got some of the magazines on my Amazon App. It’s a pity an iPad can’t connect to a memory stick.?

Although it could be done via a network I think

Computer memory is OK it’s mine that’s shot.?

Best Regards

Mike Leese

(N. Wales)

On 30 Jun 2020, at 15:55, Carole Flint <molly.moggins@...> wrote:

?I wrote some mods to use 9YW armies based for FOG:R a few years ago. It is in one of the specials, Summer 2016 one I think, but it is a big change from basic SP. I've revised them since and I sent Rich a copy last year.

Carole

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Regards

Mike Leese