Gods, my first job we used DECwriters to boot a pdp rsx11. That had switchable 12" disks in solid cases, that if you breathed wrong while swapping over would lose data!
On 01/07/2020 09:40:50, Steve Burt <steve.and.mary.burt@...> wrote: In my first software job, you had to write your code on paper forms with a pencil, and take it down to the punch card girls. It would then be turned into a card deck, run overnight and next morning you'd have a huge pile of paper on your desk because your program had core dumped. Rinse and repeat. When I first started working as a computer operator, in what was then called Data Processing, in the late 1970s the smaller IBM S/370 mainframes (the 115 and 125 models only, I think) had their IPL microcode on 12" floppy disks. You always needed to have a spare in case the one you usually IPLed from had a read error. There was a small cupboard thing under the CPU console printer where the floppy drive was located.
Carole
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In my first software job, you had to write your code on paper forms with a pencil, and take it down to the punch card girls. It would then be turned into a card deck, run overnight and next morning you'd have a huge pile of paper on your desk because your program had core dumped. Rinse and repeat.
When I first started working as a computer operator, in what was then called Data Processing, in the late 1970s the smaller IBM S/370 mainframes (the 115 and 125 models only, I think) had their IPL microcode on 12" floppy disks. You always needed to have a spare in case the one you usually IPLed from had a read error. There was a small cupboard thing under the CPU console printer where the floppy drive was located.
Carole
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First basic program I wrote was stored on paper tape - there was a reader/writer on the side of the teletype, which was connected to a distant mainframe.
First Basic program I wrote was stored on a 5 3/4"? And the last.
I was digging around in some old junk yesterday and came across a 3.5” floppy, which I showed to my 20 year old nephew. He at least didn’t comment
something along the lines of – ‘cool, someone 3d printed the save icon’.
?
I remember with the 5.25” ones you could get double duty out of them by clipping the case and turning them over. Not reliable but a damn sight better
than tape cassettes.
?
And the college was still showing the use of punch cards when I started there.
?
?
Doug
?
?
8", 5.25" or 3".
?
On 30/06/2020 14:16, Peter Mellett wrote:
Mine was 12TB, I had it delivered on a lorry full of floppy disks.
On 30/06/2020 12:58, Fredd Bloggs wrote:
12gb, no wonder there are issues! 12mb you mean.
And mine has not arrived, but then.... I have not ordered a copy yet.
On 30/06/2020 12:56:17, don.avis via
<don.avis@...> wrote:
If yours still hasn't arrived email Richard Clarke at?
sales@...?and he will sort it for you.??There
has been an issue with some EMails bouncing as the file size is over 12GB
|
Re: How long before we all go goofy...or goofier as it is.
The iPad can display PDFs if you put them in the 'Books' app on your computer. There are also PDF displayers available.
Thanks Carole, I’ll take a look. I’ve got some of the magazines on my Amazon App. It’s a pity an iPad can’t connect to a memory stick.?
Although it could be done via a network I think
Computer memory is OK it’s mine that’s shot.?
Best Regards
Mike Leese
(N. Wales)
?I wrote some mods to use 9YW armies based for FOG:R a few years ago. It is in one of the specials, Summer 2016 one I think, but it is a big change from basic SP. I've revised them since and I sent Rich a copy last year.
Carole
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Regards
Mike Leese
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That was the second program I ever wrote in Basic!
?
Yep, you could pipe output IIRC, but as no-one had a home printer in those days, the ability to print wasn’t a concern
?
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Fredd Bloggs
Sent: 01 July 2020 08:34
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [TooFatLardies] Infamy
?
I used my zx81 to create star systems for traveller, never considering the inability to print them out!
On 01/07/2020 08:16:28, Andrew Holmes via groups.io <nitpickergeneral@...>
wrote:
That brings back memories of using my Sinclair Spectrum for wargaming. I still have the book and the Spectrum in a cupboard somewhere.
I wrote a program for WW2 desert warfare which was play tested at a local fair. Debugging it as we went. What fun.
Kind regards
Andrew Holmes
?
On Wed, 1 Jul 2020 at 0:54, Doug Melville
Sinclair Basic on a ZX81, stored on a C60 cassette, which stubbornly refused to load 90% of the time. A program to generate random D&D encounters. :)?
It got much too big.
?
Doug
?
From:
[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Thomas Nissvik
Sent: 30 June 2020 19:02
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [TooFatLardies] Infamy
?
First Basic program I wrote was stored on a 5 3/4"?
And the last.
I was digging around in some old junk yesterday and came across a 3.5” floppy, which I showed to my 20 year old nephew. He at least didn’t comment something
along the lines of – ‘cool, someone 3d printed the save icon’.
?
I remember with the 5.25” ones you could get double duty out of them by clipping the case and turning them over. Not reliable but a damn sight better
than tape cassettes.
?
And the college was still showing the use of punch cards when I started there.
?
?
Doug
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I used my zx81 to create star systems for traveller, never considering the inability to print them out!
On 01/07/2020 08:16:28, Andrew Holmes via groups.io <nitpickergeneral@...> wrote: That brings back memories of using my Sinclair Spectrum for wargaming. I still have the book and the Spectrum in a cupboard somewhere. I wrote a program for WW2 desert warfare which was play tested at a local fair. Debugging it as we went. What fun. Kind regards
Andrew Holmes On Wed, 1 Jul 2020 at 0:54, Doug Melville <dougmelville@...> wrote:
Sinclair Basic on a ZX81, stored on a C60 cassette, which stubbornly refused to load 90% of the time. A program to generate random D&D encounters.
:)? It got much too big.
?
Doug
?
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Thomas Nissvik
Sent: 30 June 2020 19:02
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [TooFatLardies] Infamy
?
First Basic program I wrote was stored on a 5 3/4"?
And the last.
I was digging around in some old junk yesterday and came across a 3.5” floppy, which I showed to my 20 year old nephew.
He at least didn’t comment something along the lines of – ‘cool, someone 3d printed the save icon’.
?
I remember with the 5.25” ones you could get double duty out of them by clipping the case and turning them over.
Not reliable but a damn sight better than tape cassettes.
?
And the college was still showing the use of punch cards when I started there.
?
?
Doug
|
That brings back memories of using my Sinclair Spectrum for wargaming. I still have the book and the Spectrum in a cupboard somewhere. I wrote a program for WW2 desert warfare which was play tested at a local fair. Debugging it as we went. What fun. Kind regards
Andrew Holmes
On Wed, 1 Jul 2020 at 0:54, Doug Melville <dougmelville@...> wrote:
Sinclair Basic on a ZX81, stored on a C60 cassette, which stubbornly refused to load 90% of the time. A program to generate random D&D encounters.
:)? It got much too big.
?
Doug
?
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Thomas Nissvik
Sent: 30 June 2020 19:02
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [TooFatLardies] Infamy
?
First Basic program I wrote was stored on a 5 3/4"?
And the last.
I was digging around in some old junk yesterday and came across a 3.5” floppy, which I showed to my 20 year old nephew.
He at least didn’t comment something along the lines of – ‘cool, someone 3d printed the save icon’.
?
I remember with the 5.25” ones you could get double duty out of them by clipping the case and turning them over.
Not reliable but a damn sight better than tape cassettes.
?
And the college was still showing the use of punch cards when I started there.
?
?
Doug
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I've ordered the 1st Corps Germanic Tribes but they haven't arrived yet. If they are like the other 1st Corps I have, and the pictures look like they are, they will be big, and the sculpts have some odd planes, but I really like their slightly cartoony WW2
stuff.
The disadvantage is no LBMS transfers specifically for this range. 1st Corps are hoping to have transfers available in a matter of a couple of weeks.
Cheers
Doug
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Ours not so much, once it nearly took the head off the IBM engineer trying to fix it… replaced in the end with STK 4400 Online/Offline Silos… much more reliable..
?
The most fun storage related issue was when the whole system went down one day. Turns out the painter and decorator in the tape library had rested his ladder against a tape
rack. It toppled and the domino effect took out the EPO button. Everything stopped…
?
He tried to deny it, but he had been caught on the security camera…
?
?
As for Infamy, I looked at the Victrix Germans, but out of stock everywhere. Didn’t like the look of the Warlord ones as they seem to have a lot of clubs and swords.
The Foundry ones seem to be ?16 a pack rather than the ?12 of every other range!
The Crusader range looks nice, then I saw the First Corps range, anyone have any of these, if so, what’s their impression of them in the flesh so to speak?
?
?
I remember calculating that the storage capacity I now have in my phone would have cost many 10s of millions when I started mucking around with computing machines.
? ?(And taken up most of a decent sized cold storage facility .. )
?
Ok, enough of feeling old, what about Infamy?
?
?
Those MSS storage units were cool for the day - those that our company had worked like a charm.
That would be the IBM3420 tape drive. I remember those.... I also remember the IBM MSS storage unit - bullet like tape cartridges...
I’d like to say happy days, but...?
On 30 Jun 2020, at 20:19, Kevin Walker <sage@...> wrote:
?
Anyone remember the large reel to reel tapes that where?maybe 3/4" or 1" in width that dropped down from the reels for processing?
There were also the metal drums and later after that the ticker tape I remember seeing when my dad was early into his programming days in the 60s or was it early 70s IIRC.
My first computer I owned outside of home was a Mac Plus and oh the joy of finally affording a 20MB hard drive over swapping those 3.5" disks.? :)
?
On the TRS80 did you have the Dancing Demon? When I started with ICL in the 1970sw they were just moving on from the 1900 to the 2900 series mainframes. I used to punch my test program
instructions onto paper tape so that I could run them multiple times. 200mbye hard disks and 8" singe sided simgle density floppt discs with 1/4 mbyte to run the word processing software on a 7502. We needed 2mByte memory on the mainframe to load the operating
system.
On Tuesday, 30 June 2020, 19:11:37 BST, Gary Keep via
<lordhay=[email protected]> wrote:
I remember fiddling with the volume and tone on my cassette player to load TRS80 Games.
Then the wonderful Atari ST1040 came along with floppy drives, perfect for the SSI games.
A great computer game company now sadly gone
?
Sent from
for Windows 10
?
?
First Basic program I wrote was stored on a 5 3/4"?
And the last.
I was digging around in some old junk yesterday and came across a 3.5” floppy, which I showed to my 20 year old nephew. He at least didn’t comment something along the
lines of – ‘cool, someone 3d printed the save icon’.
?
I remember with the 5.25” ones you could get double duty out of them by clipping the case and turning them over. Not reliable but a damn sight better than tape cassettes.
?
And the college was still showing the use of punch cards when I started there.
?
?
Doug
?
?
8", 5.25" or 3".
?
On 30/06/2020 14:16, Peter Mellett wrote:
Mine was 12TB, I had it delivered on a lorry full of floppy disks.
On 30/06/2020 12:58, Fredd Bloggs wrote:
12gb, no wonder there are issues! 12mb you mean.
And mine has not arrived, but then.... I have not ordered a copy yet.
On 30/06/2020 12:56:17, don.avis via
<don.avis@...> wrote:
If yours still hasn't arrived email Richard Clarke at?
sales@...?and he will sort it for you.??There
has been an issue with some EMails bouncing as the file size is over 12GB
|
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Thomas Nissvik
Sent: 30 June 2020 21:54
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [TooFatLardies] Infamy? "The 'Good Good Days' were terrible days, I hope they never come again!"?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?- Uncle Bill
? That would be the IBM3420 tape drive. I remember those.... I also remember the IBM MSS storage unit - bullet like tape cartridges... I’d like to say happy days, but...?
On 30 Jun 2020, at 20:19, Kevin Walker <sage@...> wrote:
? Anyone remember the large reel to reel tapes that where?maybe 3/4" or 1" in width that dropped down from the reels for processing? There were also the metal drums and later after that the ticker tape I remember seeing when my dad was early into his programming days in the 60s or was it early 70s IIRC. My first computer I owned outside of home was a Mac Plus and oh the joy of finally affording a 20MB hard drive over swapping those 3.5" disks.? :) ? On the TRS80 did you have the Dancing Demon? When I started with ICL in the 1970sw they were just moving on from the 1900 to the 2900 series mainframes. I used to punch my test program instructions onto paper tape so that I could run them multiple times. 200mbye hard disks and 8" singe sided simgle density floppt discs with 1/4 mbyte to run the word processing software on a 7502. We needed 2mByte memory on the mainframe to load the operating system. On Tuesday, 30 June 2020, 19:11:37 BST, Gary Keep via <lordhay=[email protected]> wrote: I remember fiddling with the volume and tone on my cassette player to load TRS80 Games. Then the wonderful Atari ST1040 came along with floppy drives, perfect for the SSI games. A great computer game company now sadly gone ? Sent from for Windows 10 ? ? First Basic program I wrote was stored on a 5 3/4"? And the last. I was digging around in some old junk yesterday and came across a 3.5” floppy, which I showed to my 20 year old nephew. He at least didn’t comment something along the lines of – ‘cool, someone 3d printed the save icon’. ? I remember with the 5.25” ones you could get double duty out of them by clipping the case and turning them over. Not reliable but a damn sight better than tape cassettes. ? And the college was still showing the use of punch cards when I started there. ? ? Doug ? ? 8", 5.25" or 3". ? On 30/06/2020 14:16, Peter Mellett wrote: Mine was 12TB, I had it delivered on a lorry full of floppy disks. On 30/06/2020 12:58, Fredd Bloggs wrote: 12gb, no wonder there are issues! 12mb you mean. And mine has not arrived, but then.... I have not ordered a copy yet. On 30/06/2020 12:56:17, don.avis via <don.avis@...> wrote: If yours still hasn't arrived email Richard Clarke at? sales@...?and he will sort it for you.??There has been an issue with some EMails bouncing as the file size is over 12GB
|
Ours not so much, once it nearly took the head off the IBM engineer trying to fix it… replaced in the end with STK 4400 Online/Offline Silos… much more reliable.. ? The most fun storage related issue was when the whole system went down one day. Turns out the painter and decorator in the tape library had rested his ladder against a tape rack. It toppled and the domino effect took out the EPO button. Everything stopped… ? He tried to deny it, but he had been caught on the security camera… ? ? As for Infamy, I looked at the Victrix Germans, but out of stock everywhere. Didn’t like the look of the Warlord ones as they seem to have a lot of clubs and swords. The Foundry ones seem to be ?16 a pack rather than the ?12 of every other range! The Crusader range looks nice, then I saw the First Corps range, anyone have any of these, if so, what’s their impression of them in the flesh so to speak? ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Doug Melville
Sent: 01 July 2020 00:52
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [TooFatLardies] Infamy? I remember calculating that the storage capacity I now have in my phone would have cost many 10s of millions when I started mucking around with computing machines. ? ?(And taken up most of a decent sized cold storage facility .. ) ? Ok, enough of feeling old, what about Infamy? ? ? Those MSS storage units were cool for the day - those that our company had worked like a charm.
That would be the IBM3420 tape drive. I remember those.... I also remember the IBM MSS storage unit - bullet like tape cartridges... I’d like to say happy days, but...?
On 30 Jun 2020, at 20:19, Kevin Walker <sage@...> wrote:
? Anyone remember the large reel to reel tapes that where?maybe 3/4" or 1" in width that dropped down from the reels for processing? There were also the metal drums and later after that the ticker tape I remember seeing when my dad was early into his programming days in the 60s or was it early 70s IIRC. My first computer I owned outside of home was a Mac Plus and oh the joy of finally affording a 20MB hard drive over swapping those 3.5" disks.? :) ? On the TRS80 did you have the Dancing Demon? When I started with ICL in the 1970sw they were just moving on from the 1900 to the 2900 series mainframes. I used to punch my test program instructions onto paper tape so that I could run them multiple times. 200mbye hard disks and 8" singe sided simgle density floppt discs with 1/4 mbyte to run the word processing software on a 7502. We needed 2mByte memory on the mainframe to load the operating system. On Tuesday, 30 June 2020, 19:11:37 BST, Gary Keep via <lordhay=[email protected]> wrote: I remember fiddling with the volume and tone on my cassette player to load TRS80 Games. Then the wonderful Atari ST1040 came along with floppy drives, perfect for the SSI games. A great computer game company now sadly gone ? Sent from for Windows 10 ? ? First Basic program I wrote was stored on a 5 3/4"? And the last. I was digging around in some old junk yesterday and came across a 3.5” floppy, which I showed to my 20 year old nephew. He at least didn’t comment something along the lines of – ‘cool, someone 3d printed the save icon’. ? I remember with the 5.25” ones you could get double duty out of them by clipping the case and turning them over. Not reliable but a damn sight better than tape cassettes. ? And the college was still showing the use of punch cards when I started there. ? ? Doug ? ? 8", 5.25" or 3". ? On 30/06/2020 14:16, Peter Mellett wrote: Mine was 12TB, I had it delivered on a lorry full of floppy disks. On 30/06/2020 12:58, Fredd Bloggs wrote: 12gb, no wonder there are issues! 12mb you mean. And mine has not arrived, but then.... I have not ordered a copy yet. On 30/06/2020 12:56:17, don.avis via <don.avis@...> wrote: If yours still hasn't arrived email Richard Clarke at? sales@...?and he will sort it for you.??There has been an issue with some EMails bouncing as the file size is over 12GB
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I didn’t buy Ito have a Selucid 25mm army but the price of game and bits was too expensive for a game I am unlikely to play
?perHaps if there had been a man offer on the pdf but it was full price for everything with a free pdf which didn’t cut the entry cost and there isn’t a tablet version. ?Sorry?
Best Regards
Mike Leese
(N. Wales)
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On 1 Jul 2020, at 00:51, Doug Melville <dougmelville@...> wrote:
?
I remember calculating that the storage capacity I now have in my phone would have cost many 10s of millions when I started mucking around with computing
machines. ? ?(And taken up most of a decent sized cold
storage facility .. )
?
Ok, enough of feeling old, what about Infamy?
?
?
Those MSS storage units were cool for the day - those that our company had worked like a charm.
That would be the IBM3420 tape drive. I remember those.... I also remember the IBM MSS storage unit - bullet like tape cartridges...
I’d like to say happy days, but...?
On 30 Jun 2020, at 20:19, Kevin Walker <sage@...> wrote:
?
Anyone remember the large reel to reel tapes that where?maybe 3/4" or 1" in width that dropped down from the reels for processing?
There were also the metal drums and later after that the ticker tape I remember seeing when my dad was early into his programming days in the 60s or was it early 70s IIRC.
My first computer I owned outside of home was a Mac Plus and oh the joy of finally affording a 20MB hard drive over swapping those 3.5" disks.? :)
?
On the TRS80 did you have the Dancing Demon? When I started with ICL in the 1970sw they were just moving on from the 1900 to the 2900 series mainframes. I used to punch my test program instructions
onto paper tape so that I could run them multiple times. 200mbye hard disks and 8" singe sided simgle density floppt discs with 1/4 mbyte to run the word processing software on a 7502. We needed 2mByte memory on the mainframe to load the operating system.
On Tuesday, 30 June 2020, 19:11:37 BST, Gary Keep via
<lordhay=[email protected]> wrote:
I remember fiddling with the volume and tone on my cassette player to load TRS80 Games.
Then the wonderful Atari ST1040 came along with floppy drives, perfect for the SSI games.
A great computer game company now sadly gone
?
Sent from
for Windows 10
?
?
First Basic program I wrote was stored on a 5 3/4"?
And the last.
I was digging around in some old junk yesterday and came across a 3.5” floppy, which I showed to my 20 year old nephew. He at least didn’t comment something along the lines of
– ‘cool, someone 3d printed the save icon’.
?
I remember with the 5.25” ones you could get double duty out of them by clipping the case and turning them over. Not reliable but a damn sight better than tape cassettes.
?
And the college was still showing the use of punch cards when I started there.
?
?
Doug
?
?
8", 5.25" or 3".
?
On 30/06/2020 14:16, Peter Mellett wrote:
Mine was 12TB, I had it delivered on a lorry full of floppy disks.
On 30/06/2020 12:58, Fredd Bloggs wrote:
12gb, no wonder there are issues! 12mb you mean.
And mine has not arrived, but then.... I have not ordered a copy yet.
On 30/06/2020 12:56:17, don.avis via
<don.avis@...> wrote:
If yours still hasn't arrived email Richard Clarke at?
sales@...?and he will sort it for you.??There
has been an issue with some EMails bouncing as the file size is over 12GB
|
Did you ever meet Vince Morley he worked for ICL Kidsgrove?
Stoke-on-Trent?
Best Regards
Mike Leese
(N. Wales)
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On 30 Jun 2020, at 19:17, Ken Butt via groups.io <k_butt@...> wrote:
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On the TRS80 did you have the Dancing Demon? When I started with ICL in the 1970sw they were just moving on from the 1900 to the 2900 series mainframes. I used to punch my test program instructions onto paper tape so that I could run them multiple times. 200mbye
hard disks and 8" singe sided simgle density floppt discs with 1/4 mbyte to run the word processing software on a 7502. We needed 2mByte memory on the mainframe to load the operating system.
On Tuesday, 30 June 2020, 19:11:37 BST, Gary Keep via groups.io <lordhay@...> wrote:
I remember fiddling with the volume and tone on my cassette player to load TRS80 Games.
Then the wonderful Atari ST1040 came along with floppy drives, perfect for the SSI games.
A great computer game company now sadly gone
?
Sent from for Windows 10
?
?
First Basic program I wrote was stored on a 5 3/4"?
And the last.
I was digging around in some old junk yesterday and came across a 3.5” floppy, which I showed to my 20 year old nephew. He at least didn’t comment something along the lines of – ‘cool, someone 3d
printed the save icon’.
?
I remember with the 5.25” ones you could get double duty out of them by clipping the case and turning them over. Not reliable but a damn sight better than tape cassettes.
?
And the college was still showing the use of punch cards when I started there.
?
?
Doug
?
?
8", 5.25" or 3".
?
On 30/06/2020 14:16, Peter Mellett wrote:
Mine was 12TB, I had it delivered on a lorry full of floppy disks.
On 30/06/2020 12:58, Fredd Bloggs wrote:
12gb, no wonder there are issues! 12mb you mean.
And mine has not arrived, but then.... I have not ordered a copy yet.
On 30/06/2020 12:56:17, don.avis via
<don.avis@...> wrote:
If yours still hasn't arrived email Richard Clarke at?
sales@...?and he will sort it for you.??There
has been an issue with some EMails bouncing as the file size is over 12GB
|
I Worked for a large Insurance company. As an agent, in 1980 I asked head office computer department if there was anyone who could help me to use a computer for a customer database.?
Reply came back that. It was impossible on a home computer.?
I managed all my general branch business it proved quite profitable.?
1981 bought my son a BBC Micro
Then I bought one for myself for sorting out a campaign.?
Then a Z80 board with 64k of memory and Ashton Tate DB II.?
Sent the ponce in the IT dept. A printout of business held in the household and the address of relatives that held business with us.?
No reply
While I was happily making a booklet with a page for each of the families holdings.?
The company was still using a card fed mainframe, 1K I think.?
I was using a twin double sided 5.25” floppy drive. 3 backups per session.?
Things only went wrong when I didn’t make a back up.?
I know it was easy for experts but I learned from a book by someone named Pace. And of course a DB II Handbook.?
Best Regards
Mike Leese
(N. Wales)
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On 30 Jun 2020, at 19:00, Doug Melville <dougmelville@...> wrote:
?
I was digging around in some old junk yesterday and came across a 3.5” floppy, which I showed to my 20 year old nephew. He at least didn’t comment
something along the lines of – ‘cool, someone 3d printed the save icon’.
?
I remember with the 5.25” ones you could get double duty out of them by clipping the case and turning them over. Not reliable but a damn sight better
than tape cassettes.
?
And the college was still showing the use of punch cards when I started there.
?
?
Doug
?
?
8", 5.25" or 3".
?
On 30/06/2020 14:16, Peter Mellett wrote:
Mine was 12TB, I had it delivered on a lorry full of floppy disks.
On 30/06/2020 12:58, Fredd Bloggs wrote:
12gb, no wonder there are issues! 12mb you mean.
And mine has not arrived, but then.... I have not ordered a copy yet.
On 30/06/2020 12:56:17, don.avis via groups.io
<don.avis@...> wrote:
If yours still hasn't arrived email Richard Clarke at?
sales@...?and he will sort it for you.??There
has been an issue with some EMails bouncing as the file size is over 12GB
|
8” on a TRS 80 model II
Best Regards
Mike Leese
(N. Wales)
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On 30 Jun 2020, at 16:42, Chris Gilbride <chris.gilbride@...> wrote:
?
8", 5.25" or 3".
On 30/06/2020 14:16, Peter Mellett wrote:
Mine was 12TB, I had it delivered on a lorry full of floppy disks.
On 30/06/2020 12:58, Fredd Bloggs wrote:
12gb, no wonder there are issues! 12mb you mean.
And mine has not arrived, but then.... I have not ordered a copy yet.
On 30/06/2020 12:56:17, don.avis via groups.io
<don.avis@...> wrote:
If yours still hasn't arrived email Richard Clarke at?
sales@...?and he will sort it for you. ??There has been an issue with some EMails bouncing
as the file size is over 12GB
|
Sinclair Basic on a ZX81, stored on a C60 cassette, which stubbornly refused to load 90% of the time. A program to generate random D&D encounters.
:)? It got much too big.
?
Doug
?
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Thomas Nissvik
Sent: 30 June 2020 19:02
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [TooFatLardies] Infamy
?
First Basic program I wrote was stored on a 5 3/4"?
And the last.
I was digging around in some old junk yesterday and came across a 3.5” floppy, which I showed to my 20 year old nephew.
He at least didn’t comment something along the lines of – ‘cool, someone 3d printed the save icon’.
?
I remember with the 5.25” ones you could get double duty out of them by clipping the case and turning them over.
Not reliable but a damn sight better than tape cassettes.
?
And the college was still showing the use of punch cards when I started there.
?
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Doug
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Re: How long before we all go goofy...or goofier as it is.
Thanks Carole, I’ll take a look. I’ve got some of the magazines on my Amazon App. It’s a pity an iPad can’t connect to a memory stick.?
Although it could be done via a network I think
Computer memory is OK it’s mine that’s shot.?
Best Regards
Mike Leese
(N. Wales)
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On 30 Jun 2020, at 15:55, Carole Flint <molly.moggins@...> wrote:
?I wrote some mods to use 9YW armies based for FOG:R a few years ago. It is in one of the specials, Summer 2016 one I think, but it is a big change from basic SP. I've revised them since and I sent Rich a copy last year.
Carole
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I remember calculating that the storage capacity I now have in my phone would have cost many 10s of millions when I started mucking around with computing
machines. ? ?(And taken up most of a decent sized cold
storage facility .. )
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Ok, enough of feeling old, what about Infamy?
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On Behalf Of Malcolm Sleight
Sent: 30 June 2020 22:47
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [TooFatLardies] Infamy
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Those MSS storage units were cool for the day - those that our company had worked like a charm.
That would be the IBM3420 tape drive. I remember those.... I also remember the IBM MSS storage unit - bullet like tape cartridges...
I’d like to say happy days, but...?
On 30 Jun 2020, at 20:19, Kevin Walker <sage@...> wrote:
?
Anyone remember the large reel to reel tapes that where?maybe 3/4" or 1" in width that dropped down from the reels for processing?
There were also the metal drums and later after that the ticker tape I remember seeing when my dad was early into his programming days in the 60s or was it early 70s IIRC.
My first computer I owned outside of home was a Mac Plus and oh the joy of finally affording a 20MB hard drive over swapping those 3.5" disks.? :)
?
On the TRS80 did you have the Dancing Demon? When I started with ICL in the 1970sw they were just moving on from the 1900 to the 2900 series mainframes. I used to punch my test program instructions
onto paper tape so that I could run them multiple times. 200mbye hard disks and 8" singe sided simgle density floppt discs with 1/4 mbyte to run the word processing software on a 7502. We needed 2mByte memory on the mainframe to load the operating system.
On Tuesday, 30 June 2020, 19:11:37 BST, Gary Keep via
<lordhay=[email protected]> wrote:
I remember fiddling with the volume and tone on my cassette player to load TRS80 Games.
Then the wonderful Atari ST1040 came along with floppy drives, perfect for the SSI games.
A great computer game company now sadly gone
?
Sent from
for Windows 10
?
?
First Basic program I wrote was stored on a 5 3/4"?
And the last.
I was digging around in some old junk yesterday and came across a 3.5” floppy, which I showed to my 20 year old nephew. He at least didn’t comment something along the lines of
– ‘cool, someone 3d printed the save icon’.
?
I remember with the 5.25” ones you could get double duty out of them by clipping the case and turning them over. Not reliable but a damn sight better than tape cassettes.
?
And the college was still showing the use of punch cards when I started there.
?
?
Doug
?
?
8", 5.25" or 3".
?
On 30/06/2020 14:16, Peter Mellett wrote:
Mine was 12TB, I had it delivered on a lorry full of floppy disks.
On 30/06/2020 12:58, Fredd Bloggs wrote:
12gb, no wonder there are issues! 12mb you mean.
And mine has not arrived, but then.... I have not ordered a copy yet.
On 30/06/2020 12:56:17, don.avis via
<don.avis@...> wrote:
If yours still hasn't arrived email Richard Clarke at?
sales@...?and he will sort it for you.??There
has been an issue with some EMails bouncing as the file size is over 12GB
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It’s funny, but a few years ago I had an mail box nothing else.?
I I didn’t want to read an email I just deleted it.?
Now I have a mail box, spam box, a junk box and a trash box, although some ISP’s call them folders.?
I still have to read all of the the mail Boxes ?because mail goes to mail spam and junk ??
Best Regards
Mike Leese
(N. Wales)
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On 30 Jun 2020, at 08:35, Ken Warren via groups.io <kenwarren33@...> wrote:
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My copy was hiding in cover (spam folder) - spotted it just in time!
On Tuesday, 30 June 2020, 08:30:23 BST, Doug Melville <dougmelville@...> wrote:
I think because of the potential for being blocked as a spammer, they are being emailed in batches. Can you also check the size of attachments you can receive at your email address? The PDF is 11-12 Mb in size.
Doug
I will keep waiting
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Richard sent me my file. ?Thanks!!!!! ?Now I have an excuse to do no work today while i read it. ?I will be “shopping” in my garage tonight to find all the Brittons/Gauls I have been hoarding to recruit an army to paint for it!?
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Those MSS storage units were cool for the day - those that our company had worked like a charm.
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That would be the IBM3420 tape drive. I remember those.... I also remember the IBM MSS storage unit - bullet like tape cartridges...
I’d like to say happy days, but...?
Tim
On 30 Jun 2020, at 20:19, Kevin Walker <sage@...> wrote:
?
Anyone remember the large reel to reel tapes that where?maybe 3/4" or 1" in width that dropped down from the reels for processing?
There were also the metal drums and later after that the ticker tape I remember seeing when my dad was early into his programming days in the 60s or was it early 70s IIRC.
My first computer I owned outside of home was a Mac Plus and oh the joy of finally affording a 20MB hard drive over swapping those 3.5" disks.? :)
Kevin
On the TRS80 did you have the Dancing Demon? When I started with ICL in the 1970sw they were just moving on from the 1900 to the 2900 series mainframes. I used to punch my test program instructions onto paper tape so that I could run them multiple times. 200mbye
hard disks and 8" singe sided simgle density floppt discs with 1/4 mbyte to run the word processing software on a 7502. We needed 2mByte memory on the mainframe to load the operating system.
On Tuesday, 30 June 2020, 19:11:37 BST, Gary Keep via <lordhay= [email protected]> wrote:
I remember fiddling with the volume and tone on my cassette player to load TRS80 Games.
Then the wonderful Atari ST1040 came along with floppy drives, perfect for the SSI games.
A great computer game company now sadly gone
?
Sent from for Windows 10
?
?
First Basic program I wrote was stored on a 5 3/4"?
And the last.
I was digging around in some old junk yesterday and came across a 3.5” floppy, which I showed to my 20 year old nephew. He at least didn’t comment something along the lines of – ‘cool, someone 3d printed the save icon’.
?
I remember with the 5.25” ones you could get double duty out of them by clipping the case and turning them over. Not reliable but a damn sight better than tape cassettes.
?
And the college was still showing the use of punch cards when I started there.
?
?
Doug
?
?
8", 5.25" or 3".
?
On 30/06/2020 14:16, Peter Mellett wrote:
Mine was 12TB, I had it delivered on a lorry full of floppy disks.
On 30/06/2020 12:58, Fredd Bloggs wrote:
12gb, no wonder there are issues! 12mb you mean.
And mine has not arrived, but then.... I have not ordered a copy yet.
On 30/06/2020 12:56:17, don.avis via
<don.avis@...> wrote:
If yours still hasn't arrived email Richard Clarke at?
sales@...?and he will sort it for you.??There
has been an issue with some EMails bouncing as the file size is over 12GB
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