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Hi, friends,

A friend of mine just sent me this link. (Thanks, Glenda!)
Bordering on Abe-isms from the Pope! What's coming next?


" Pope says sinners bring hell on themselves"


Here is the link to a news story about the Pope and his views on
heaven and
hell.



The times, they are a changin! <grin>

Love and hugs,

Connee

Would love some Abrahamic insights on this question.

Am I my body?
Am I my mind?
Am I what I know--my knowledge?
Am I my interests, my hobbies?
Am I my personality?
Am I my talents, my gifts?
Am I the language I speak, my culture?

For reasons I don't have time to explain here, I am forced to say "no" to
each of these questions. All of these areas represent aspects of me, but
they are not who I am. Any one of them could be changed, and "I" would
still remain. "I" am more than any of these.

OK, so I must be nonphysical energy. And what is nonphysical energy?

Who am I?

Awareness. Consciousness. Soul.

Love.

Ted

Ask and you shall receive Debbie and whoever else is wanting Abe's take on
hot flashes! I went to the Portland seminar July10-11, and a woman slipped
in her question about hot flashes in the middle of Abe going strong on dream
stuff. They didn't want to answer her at that point, and later on Jerry in
his very own funny way got them to answer her question.......... I'll
transcribe it for you here -- it's great stuff that applies to much more than
just hot flashes -- as always!
love to all.....
Paula R.

--------------------------------------
Hot Flashes question.

Abe: The big question is, when for whatever reason I'm living something that
is different from what I want, do I have control? How much am I limited or
hindered or controlled by body rhythms or by vibrational earth rhythms or
rivers? How much control do I have about my experience? And we say,
absolute control. Give us the specifics of your question.

Q: I've been having hot flashes and I finally gave up on treating them and
things got better, and I would ignore them and every now and then they would
still happen even though I'm not focusing on them. But yesterday (the first
day of the workshop) -- all day -- I was in like one continual hot flash. I
felt like there was something else besides the hormone thing that medical
science tells me.

Abe: Let's talk about what's happening in your cellular body. Do you
acknowledge that your body is made up of millions of cells that are
transmitting and receiving mechanisms? Is it logical to you that when you
are in an environment like this where you are stimulated to great mental
activity and where you are surrounded by an energy that is in vibrational
harmony with your core energy, that your body would be responding differently
under these conditions than maybe other conditions?

One of the things that we are wanting you to hear is that sometimes we think
that what you are associating as hot flashes is not the hormonal thing that
so many are giving credit to, but it is an energy alignment. Think about it
-- if your body is in the process of change, isn't it logical that the cells
of your body would be reaching for and asking for different things? Think
about your body and think about the man on the high wire at the circus. Does
he gain his balance and then just rigidly hold it, or is he constantly
reaching for his balance?

In the same way that he is constantly reaching for his balance, every cell of
your body is constantly reaching for balance, so there are all kinds of
energies that are being asked for or are being summoned for by your cells.
So if you would begin now to think of this phenomenon that you call menopause
as energy alignment -- leave the word "hormonal" out of it and replace it
with "energy alignment" -- then you would understand.

Think about the teenagers when they are coming into that. Do they not have
similar symptoms? Not much is talked about that. You talk about it as you
are on your way out of that cycling, but you don't talk about it so much as
you are on your way into that cycling. And yet men *and* women, people of
all ages, are continually being realigned from within. As you understand
that it is about energy in motion, and then you think about what is happening
in a gathering like this, which above all things is energy in motion, then
you might understand a little bit more clearly what is going on with your
physical body.

We see many of you "flashing" when you are under duress. Have you ever been
driving along feeling rather comfortable in your car and all of a sudden
realize that you're absolutely lost and you start tugging at your clothes and
trying to get the air conditioner to work a little better. And we say, oh
well menopause has set in in your car in the middle of your traffic jam!!
But under those conditions you do not acknowledge that it is about that.
Something happened in your now which caused you to abruptly disallow energy.

We see women right in the throes of these hot flashes where they are feeling
great physical discomfort and we've noticed that the more they tense about it
and the more they complain about it and the more they are unhappy about it,
the longer they hold themselves in that vibration. Part of it is because it
represents so many things that they've been pushing against: it represents
getting older, which they don't want; it represents being less youthful or
less fertile, which they don't want. There are all kinds of things that
they've been carrying around that it represents that they are pushing against
-- it's no wonder that there's an energy blockage or misalignment in all of
that. Where someone who is not particularly worried about getting older, who
accepts that all things are transitioning, who is not unhappy about moving
through that time where they are no longer in a position to conceive or give
birth, they're easy about all of it. Their experience with that is entirely
different.

We can put it in this very simple thing: next time you are having what you
think is one of your "flashes," if you will consciously relax with the intent
of enjoying whatever your body is doing to bring itself into alignment and
you will feel exhilaration that your body knows what to do and it's not
something for you to worry about, so that there's no pushing-against but
actual appreciation for it, you will actually take pleasure in the moment and
the discomfort will not be something that will hinder you anymore.
Everything that is uncomfortable is about pushing against something, without
exception.

--------------------------

Enjoy!!
--Paula R.

In a message dated 7/30/99 10:57:56 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
Landex@... writes:

<< Dear Sweet Nori!

Your cat is telling that she does not need anything but love so I now send
her a
huge ball of light filled with love. She has access to it whenever she wants
it.
She knows!

In love with ATI,
Trixi
>>
Thanks Trixi
I know you are right.
We just got home, I have to take Angel back to the vet tomorrow for
tests...they will be testing for feline leukemia and FIV...
I am trying to be ok with this, but I can't seem to stop crying...

thanks...
Nori

You are ME...
(and that's pretty kewl)

LOL...just having a bit of fun with you here Ted....
I do appreciate your profound questions because
in the answers will also lie
a very strong hint to
who am I ?!!

We are definitely nonphysical, yes...having most obviously physical
characteristics.

The physical aspects are easy to describe.
The nonphysical becomes a challenge to put into words.
Nonphysical can be felt. How do we describe LOVE?

I get the strong sense that much of our *fun* here involves melding BOTH our
evolving understanding of our psyche (id, ego, personality) and our spiritual
side. To focus on one to the exclusion of the other sets us off kilter. At
least that's how I'm viewing who I am...embracing life in the physical while
acknowledging and exploring my STRONG roots in nonphysical.

It's an exciting time we live in, and exciting to contemplate your wonderful
questions!! I feel honored to have access to so much exceptional information
and inspiration here on this list!

Thank you so much, Ted!

with love and blessings,
Sage
An appreciative and mostly silent absorber on this list! I ADORE this
delightful group!!!!

Hi Patricia! What a lovely voice you have! :-)

=====

From: PEAllen@...

Dear Connee,
Thank you for your acknowledgment. My appreciation of you, David, this

list

is enormous. There is something about the word "lurker" which seems to me

to >be negative.
=====

I, too, have a problem with this word for those who listen and feel and
don't speak. It's cute and concise, but does it really apply? It has
always impressed me as unfair, whether applied to myself or to others,
trivializing, painting the described person almost in a cartoon light.
Let's just look at this a bit.

Lurk 1) to stay hidden, ready to attack, etc.
2) to move furtively

I KNOW these meanings didn't apply to me as I followed in rapt interest, in
awe and wonder, the procedings on this list several months ago as I ABSORBED
(thanks, Patricia) what was going on here, undergoing the natural process
necessary for me to find my voice in this unaccustomed forum, and I don't
think it accurately describes anyone else undergoing that process either, or
any of the others who don't speak. And I do remember the feeling of hurt,
at the time of my first posting, to be referred to as a newbie delurking.
Speaking for myself, I'm definitely open to using another term in this
context, though I don't know what it would be. Patricia offered "Silent
Absorber" as an improvement in meaning, and Karin Lightworker referred to
herself as a 'silent appreciator.'

To All who listen here without speaking, I honor you and validate your
process.

=====
How about "Silent Absorber"? I AM both or either and am

delighted, uplifted, encouraged, enlarged, supported, filled with laughter
and smiles whenever I have time to click on.
I feel so very close to all of you. All of you. You have no idea how many
times I have talk/written answers back to you or Juls or David or Pbabe or
Silver Laughter or Green or StarNav in my head before going to sleep or
driving to work and feel connected, transported and often close to tears

with

even this kind of expression. Often expanding my understanding to clarity!

=====

Dear Patricia, I'm grateful for your uplifting support both public and
private, for myself and for others. Do you know how your words above make
my heart sing?

Several days ago you PEMed me four lines of appreciation that really lifted
my heart:

I love you, too, Green
I feel so many facets of you in your posts, stature, understanding, wisdom,
poetic living, spirituality, depth etc.
Patricia

Now, I do acknowledge there are aspects of me you were responding to
when you wrote this. But just as surely as that's true, you were also
seeing what you ARE.

I see your beauty too, dear Patricia, and love to hear your voice!
My Love to ALL <3 <3


Green

Please send PPE....

My sweet Angel cat is not feeling well again~~ I am trying to be a loving
allower with this, it just reaches deep within me and hits a spot that is so
sensitive~~I don't want her to be in pain... We go to the vet at 9:45 today.

The common denominator here is the flea medicine that is put on her fur.
Last time I applied it she lost her voice. Now she is not eating and it
seems that her mouth or throat hurts to eat. The vet did not think it was
the "advantage" last time--but I will not use it again, I will say that.

I am seeing the visit to the vet filled with Light and Love. Angel knows she
is being taken good care of and the angels are there assisting. The vet
determines quickly and accurately what she needs and Angel is on the path to
her highest healing. Dr B is aware of our more frequent visits and adjusts
the fees in a fair and loving manner.

Thank you Light Family...
thank you for your support and Love...I am feeling just a little not so
strong with this one..

Love
Nori

Dearest Spirits of Light,

Since my discovery on July 9 of the availability on the Internet of solar
images taken by the astronomical surveillance satellite SOHO, I have been
watching daily in fascination and wonder what I have never been able to see
before.

I have installed the wonderul July 9,1300 photograph as wallpaper on my
desktop and I LOVE having this image in my face so much.

I have saved a single image from each day since July 9 to my desktop where I
can select and study them at my leisure.

I must say I appreciate having my very own astronomical surveillance
satellite in special orbit around the earth and sun, and a personal staff of
expert astronomers to sift through thousands of solar images daily and
select for my perusal only the best images! :-))

And I note that the image at the top of yesterday's image list, July 29 at
1900, is the most spectacular I've seen yet.

To get into these images yourself -- there are many given daily -- go
to the SOHO home page , click on "Latest
Images" in the left-hand margin, and, like me, you will in effect have your
own
astronomical surveillance satellite and staff of expert astronomers to
select the best of thousands of images for your observational pleasure and
wonder. Enjoy!

With Love,

Green

Posting this for my new friend Patricia <3 <3 who apparently was unable to
post it herself.


From: PEAllen@...


Dear one Green,

My throat constricts again, my being thrills with your account of your raven
experience. You write with your heart exquisitely. I was breathless with
your love and rescue.

Stuart Wilde has a guided meditation CD called Where the Raven Lands which
is
beautifully done. The
symbology made my dream much more understandable. I've found my old notes,
but not the draft I wanted of my

Dream of Trust

I was quickly plucked from crowd
by beak of huge black bird
and swiftly
flown to high of sky.
An instant flood of change began
within.
Eager with delight,
was held with tender care
as soaring winged motion split us
through transparencies of air.

He dropped me!

Fear exploded as I fell!
Astonished,
saw him dive beside me!
He caught and held again
with strong yet gentle strength.
He climbed,
he dropped,
swooped down,
then caught.
Again
and still again --

Always,
always
he was there beside me,
teaching trust in winged rescues.

Then quietly serene we flew,
my body straight on structure lean,
my arms
outstretched on sleek of wings.
My mind
took note of feathers black,
so rainbow-blue in sheen,
as quietly serene we flew
as quietly serene we flew

Oh, knowing bird of majesty
you came in answer from another space,
with knowledge shown so vivid-bold,
in patience-wise to illustrate.
My thoughts,
deliciously expanded,
are settling firm to absolute.
I am always, always safe.
(c) Patricia E. Allen around l985

Love to you and all of you connecting with our feathered ones,
Patricia

Juls, I was just catching up with your Peter story and the part in your
dream about living out the scenarios with every guy you'd ever imagined
sounded so familiar...then I remembered it's done at the end of a very
magical book by Herman Hesse called Steppenwolf (where the band got their
name.) The first part of the book tends to be rather depressing but then
watch out as reality starts flying by the end!

Stormy

Dearest Ilana-Ora,
Your inspiring story made me lift off into a vibratory sphere somewhere a
few millimetres from Abe-land itself! I could hear the cheers and delighted
corks popping<g> among family of Abe and myself jumping up and down in
delighted joy! YES. This is joyous deliberate creation in action. This is
how it was intended. This is what I too am a vibrational match to! This is
how I have been "working/playing/applying the teachings myself" - and this
is the kind of story I am living and moulding in my own life too!
This is what lining up our energy with Source is about. This is what
flowing energy and pivoting when necessary is about. AND THIS IS WHY
NOTHING IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN THAT I FEEL GOOD is the compass needle of my
life too - pointing me to JOY and marvellous creations. I am inspired to
practise it even more fully - thank you thank you thank you for this
sharing. It is the crystal gem I sooo love to find amidst the sharings on
this wonderful list.

All is well with me - and I am uplifted to share in how blatantly well all
is with you!
With whoops of glee,
Caryl

In a message dated 7/29/99 11:59:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
laughingpaws@... writes:

<< But maybe that was what I needed to become in order for us to
meet, and how Cool is that?
>>

cooler than A/C in a car Juls~<g> everyone changes on some level...
maybe even Pete?

"If you are running around,

and, out of habit,

observing, then you're

up and down

all over the place.

But if you pay attention

to the way you feel--

and you deliberately

choose thoughts

for the very selfish reason

that they feel better --

then you are in alignment

with who you are."

You know who....

Hi Gwen and everyone else that's PEM'd me,

Sorry, I've given you all the info I have. One of my main intentions has
been that HE finds and comes to ME so I really don't have any desire to
search him out at the moment. I bought a Love candle today, since I can't
truly sit around and do NOTHING, but other than that I have no clue. He
could be married with 6 kids for all I know and he is just representative of
the man that will come along, I don't know and if that's the case I don't
want to know, I'm having too much fun playing and dreaming about
it. I have his parents address and phone number and I'm sure I could find
an e-mail address for him somewhere, but where's the FUN in THAT?

For a long time now I've tried to push things thru, Make them happen and
sometimes that's been REALLY good, but with this, I want to see how the
universe arranges it all, I don't want to read the last page of the book
before the first is written. I like to think that he had a similar dream to
mine and is now going thru the steps to find ME, wouldn't that be SO MUCH
more Fun than Me finding Him?

I mean there are a MILLION different ways that we could meet again, I could
go there, he could come here, he could already BE here for all I know. He
could call me and say, " I know this sounds weird but I've been dreaming
about you and, well I wanted to see how you were." OR he could want to use
the property for the farm for a photo shoot or The Farm when it's opened for
a photo shoot or we could run in to one another at a restaurant somewhere or
ANYTHING and I want to see how it all plays out. MUCH more fun than a
search on the WWW for him. Or a couple dozen roses could end up on my
doorstep with a REALLY great note or I don't know, but I'm having a Blast
thinking about it and imagining it.


Tonight when we were at dinner in a local Italian Restaurant I looked up and
just stared at a waiter going by he looked Very familiar to me but I
couldn't place him and then it hit me, and I dropped my fork- a very cool
and non chalant response- he looks like I remember Pete. We've been to that
restaurant almost weekly for years and I've NEVER had that kind of reaction
to ANYONE before, well to someone who looked like Lofts I did and at the
time I thought Lofts was dead so I thought I was seeing a ghost, he was
riding the same kind of motorcycle as well- but not with Pete. So, I guess
I'm getting closer to this unfoldment all the time. Funny thing is I only
saw him once the whole time we were there and we eat slowly. Just a little
faith boost from the U I guess. And I LOVE those. :D

But I do PROMISE that as SOON as I know anything more, you guys will be
amongst the first to know, as soon as I stop bouncing long enough to be able
to type it out.

LOVE YA- Juls

Hi list,

I thought this was worth sending on. Someone let me know if this hits
the list. I get my posts in my mailbox but keep getting notices that my
mail has been refused because I am not subscribed to onelist. Wrote to
the administrator and hopefully it has been solved.



Two little kids are in a hospital, lying on stretchers next to
each
other, outside the operating room.
The first kid leans over and asks, "What are you in here for?"
The second kid says, "I'm in here to get my tonsils out and I'm
a
little nervous."
The first kid says, "You've got nothing to worry about. I had
that
done when I was four. They put you to sleep, and when you wake
up
they give you lots of Jell-O and ice cream. It's a breeze!"
The second kid then asks, "What are you here for?" The first
kid says,
"A circumcision."
And the second kid says, "Whoa! I had that done when I was
born. I
couldn't walk for a year!"


My love
Lola

Hey Boo,

I was the same way before I got in to Abe as well, but I didn't really
realize it until my first dog Pasha came along and mirrored back my
aggression. I was a hard hitting photojournalist and combat photographer,
no feelings, no compassion allowed to surface at all, probably because at
the time it would have torn me apart if I had let myself feel anything in
those situations. Well I guess the emotions did come up and I expressed
them thru anger and defensiveness and aggression, but I wasn't a happy
camper much of the time. I was going to be the next Robert Capa, drink
hard, live hard, die young but gloriously in a far off land. LOLOLOLOL, now
I play with dogs all day and get my nose out of joint when the A/C in my car
doesn't work LOLOLOL. And I wouldn't have it any other way because I know
what true joy and happiness are now and I have a mutt that mirrors back That
part of myself now too cuz he's the happiest, friendliest, most intelligent
mutt on the planet and while he would defend anyone with everything he has,
he'd rather die than hurt someone.

I've been wondering these last couple of days if it really is Pete coming in
to my life if he'll even recognize me anymore because I am so much different
than I was back then, much more at peace and in love with life and just
plain happy. But maybe that was what I needed to become in order for us to
meet, and how Cool is that?

LOVE YA- Juls

Hi Laurel!

I love to hear about wonderful manifestations. It's so beautiful when the
universe delivers and you realize the connection! Life is so good, isn't
it?

Love,
Elisabeth

Thank you All SO Much for all of your love and advice and happy ending
stories.

Today as I was listening to a recent Abe tape from San Antonio they talked
about how Esther and Jerry had started having weird things happen with their
airline flights and then Esther figured out that she was trying to justify
their new gorgeous motor home by attracting icky flights and then it Hit me
like a load of Bricks. For ages now I've been wanting to both stop walking
that particular dog because of the neighborhood they are in- the same one
that my newly ex-sister in laws, best friend lives and a former client of
mine- AND spend more time working on The Farm and I've been hedging back and
forth about just letting that part of my business go all together and
focusing Totally on The Farm. I had another client in that same development
and I managed to make her pay late every month for 9 months and do some
pretty harsh training with a perfectly wonderful dog before I felt like I
could let her go as well. SO, it was all an attempt to justify me being
selfish enough to only keep those clients that I really like and the dogs
that I really love. So once I figured THAT out I could really and truly and
whole heartedly Thank Them for the role that they played, the gifts that
this has brought me and that they have given me indirectly are Priceless.
Now the only dog walking dogs that I have are those that I adore, the humans
are all Wonderful people who spoil me rotten and spoil their dogs rotten.
They all pay well in advance of being out of money, they often leave me
bonuses or gifts or if they've had an office party they bring me cup cakes
or cookies or a piece of birthday cake, they leave toys and rawhides and
other stuff for Cordy and ALWAYS leave me cold drinks in the fridge or
Popsicles in the freezer for me in this heat wave, one makes me home made
lemonade Every Single Day for the last month made to Perfection and ALL of
them have invested in the start up money for The Farm and have actively
searched out other money and resources for me, ALL of them have people that
want to invest as limited partners when that time comes as well. They are
people that like and trust and respect me and are actively demonstrative in
their support of me and my dreams and refer more business to me than I can
handle alone. So, this also gave me a chance to really focus on my
appreciation of these people as well, several of them want to come and work
for me when the farm opens. I was wrong, not all of them have invested but
if they haven't invested money they are wanting to invest their time in
helping me realize this dream, which is just as if not more important than
the dollars.

I was in a real funk about all of the hours I've been putting in and the
heat in an un air conditioned car and was quickly talking myself in to a job
at Starbucks again until the farm was financed but NOW, man today was just
AWESOME, everyone of them left me some token of appreciation today and I
just Soared and realized that these people had given me a HUGE gift in
co-creating a situation in which I was able to both appreciate fully what I
have and to clarify what I want in the future and in a practical sense took
an hour off of my daily rounds, all of which are truly priceless gifts.

Hey, I think I'm getting this stuff down AT LAST, this is Cool. Never
thought I'd see Contrast as my friend. And Ilana, your story about you and
your hubby really Did make a difference in how I saw this and how I began to
play with it, Thank You!!!

LOVE YA- Juls

essage: 7
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 08:02:48 +0200
From: "Morgan" <indabalo@...>
Subject: Re: A crystal clear example - YES!!!


Dearest Ilana-Ora,
Your inspiring story made me lift off into a vibratory sphere somewhere a
few millimetres from Abe-land itself! I could hear the cheers and delighted
corks popping<g> among family of Abe and myself jumping up and down in
delighted joy! YES. This is joyous deliberate creation in action. This is
how it was intended. This is what I too am a vibrational match to! This is
how I have been "working/playing/applying the teachings myself" - and this
is the kind of story I am living and moulding in my own life too!
This is what lining up our energy with Source is about. This is what
flowing energy and pivoting when necessary is about. AND THIS IS WHY
NOTHING IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN THAT I FEEL GOOD is the compass needle of my
life too - pointing me to JOY and marvellous creations. I am inspired to
practise it even more fully - thank you thank you thank you for this
sharing. It is the crystal gem I sooo love to find amidst the sharings on
this wonderful list.

All is well with me - and I am uplifted to share in how blatantly well all
is with you!
With whoops of glee,
Caryl

I am writing to let you know that after years of working to line
up my vibrations I finally got it and the universe was able to
deliver to me the love life of my dreams. My husband urged me to
tell you this story because he felt that it may inspire those who
read it to feel greater confidence in their own ability to create
whatever they want for themselves as well.
getting better and better.

____________________________________________________

Dear Ilana-Ora;
Caryl and Green already spoke everything I felt!
I bow to you in adoration! Yes, you have reached mastery in being a Joyous
Deliberate Creator! You set a signpost for all of us, you prepaved the way!
When I read your posts I started shivering like never before, I could watch
my vibration going higher and higher! I'll be there very soon, too - an
allower like you!
KarinLLightworker, beaming, shivering, happily lurking. Back to being a
'silent appreciator'
Please visit my website and E-Shop at:

Hi Juls,

Don't you just love it when you discover a little resistance to work on? I
had a situation happen to me and I hit a huge wall of resistance. I had to
fire a front office employee because I found out she was verbally abusing
clients. My clients told me that they thought about taking their business
elsewhere, but decided to tell me first. After 2 warnings I had to fire
her. She filed for unemployment. This was o.k. for her, but for me it
would mean a huge rate increase in addition to the already unbelievable
rates I was paying. I filed a statement saying what had happend to the
review board, and they took my side. Then she filed an appeal and the
judge took her side. I filed an appeal to the high court. How do you
decide what to want? I wanted to win, but I also wanted things to work out
for her. I decided to love her no matter what. I figured that she was
doing the best she could. I asked the universe to let this work out in
the best way for all of us. Several months later my appeal came back. The
decision was in my favor. The neat thing is that she got her unemployment,
and my account was NOT charged. This meant that we all got what we wanted.
The wonderful universe strikes again!