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Brigitte Sarthou
 

I sent the corrected adress... didn't you see it?
anyway... here it is:

Hope you like it.
Love,
Brigitte.

De?: BARBARA7X@...
Date?: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 13:55:14 EST
??: b.sarthou@...
Objet?: Re: [Abraham-Hicks] Neville



Bridgette,

I pasted this to my browser and it said couldn't find that page. Can you
resend?
Thanks.

Hugs,

Barbara




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pre-paving of sorts

Mae
 

The segments of my day always pretty much fall into these categories: My
writing, my charity work, my housework, my social structure, my physical
body, my marriage, and I
prepave each morning how I want each area to go.

For example, the other morning, when it came to the charity, I said to
my ib, I need an idea for what to put on the envelope we are going to
send out to everyone around here. I want it to pique their interest and

I want it to suit the "fund-raising" motif you have already inspired me
with. Ok?

Two hours later, I opened a file, looked at the screen for a moment and
started to type. I had set aside half an hour to work on this. It came

immediately, My first reaction was, oh, yeah, right, but then I
remembered my request and my feeling of knowing I would be open to
receiving inspiration. That morning I sent off the order to the printer

and I haven't regretted it. I smiled a big huge smile at the time and
said, YES, THANK YOU!

I also prepave for my writing. I know what I will be working on and I
need the inspiration of nuance, of showing without telling...and by
jingo! It is working.

Yesterday it finally hit me that I have to move beyond a gentle, "Oh,
wouldn't that be nice, yes, that would feel so good." (If you have ever

heard a Stuart Wilde tape he does a hilarious one of a little old lady,
saying, "Oh, that's so nice...), anyway, yesterday I flared in my energy

and I definitely said what I wanted. I want this and I want this and I
want this and I want this. and by the way, Thanks a big one!

Well, it feels good and as long as I find joy and appreciation in the
wondrous things in my world and as long as I open my heart to loving and

as long as I watch out for those "things that I do" I know that what I
want
will manifest and this body will find what I have always felt was its
perfect place of being. You know that movie where the black actor, the
comedian, wears a fat suit, forgive me I have lost his name, well, I am
seeing my body as having inflated this
fat suit simply from my concentrating too hard on food and oh, dear,
what should I eat, and oh, dear, I am no longer 35 and etc. and etc.
I believe that my body is deflating as I type. But, it is not going to
deflate in an
hour, or I would be in serious trouble. Abraham talks about Quantum
leaps and in this case it is most unlikely, and as it came on slowly, it
will come off
slowly, but not...as...slowly...as it came on. It will come off, easily
and
happily.

Oh, yes, my dh is being extra sweet this morning. Gotta love this
vibrating stuff.

I am on a roll today.

Hugs to all of you on this list. It is better than ever here.

Mae





--
"The future is not something we enter, it is something we create." -
Leonard I. Sweet


Re: [Abraham-Hicks] Re: I'm confused/Prepaving vs. Time Lag

 

In a message dated 11/18/2001 8:54:45 PM Eastern Standard Time,
bookcraver@... writes:

<< Start listening to the people around you. It's quite amazing to
discover that they really are living their beliefs. THEN START
LISTENING TO WHAT YOU SAY EVERYDAY. Those innocent little comments
you make are YOUR beliefs. You can prepave in any direction. As
always, the choice is yours. >>

I also remember when I first read New Beginnings II, that Abe says to intend
what you want to happen in a situation. Such as, if one goes to their
friends, they would say "I intend to have conversations that make me feel
good."

Or if driving, "I intend to have safety on this drive" (I use this one a
lot!!!!!)

So, like the choices presented in this email, it is basically setting up what
others call a "Self-fulfilling prophesy" or saying what is going to happen
before a situation .. only this time knowing that you are really pre-paving
and it does work..!!!!!

Jesse


Re: Another point about beauty part 2

 

Hi again Tima,

(Note: would that Leo meteor shower mean anything
astrologically?)

Actually your post triggered somethign else for me. (Big surprise,
right?)

While I find it a pain in the butt how much feminine looks are
emphasized on a purely woody level, as I said, I can get over
that. That's just what it is. A pain in the butt--not something I've
always wanted on a core level.

But what you described below *is* more something like I've
always desiree and so it's presence causes more happiness
and its absence causes more of a feeling of lack. I'm really into
views and forms among other things. Having or not having this
*level* of beauty (not youth so much as form) seems to include
or exclude one out of a certain level of creation. (Ting) I have a
belief that you are excluded of the Arena of the Gods if you will--a
certain archetypal level of creation if you don't have it--that you
can create this great life etc but are still *excluded* from this
highly creative circle.

And that's very irritating. Maybe I have some Ancient Greek
influences or something. Like many people, I was extremely
attatched to the Greek civilization and mythology as a kid --at one
point easily duplicating mosaics and sculptures from that era
when I was about 13. I used less dramatic scale and materials
though.

So maybe I'm still traumatized. :-)

Hmm. I may be on to something here. I have no idea what good
pivoting will do, but the clarification is there thanks to your post.

Careen




--- In Abraham-Hicks@y..., "t" <tima5@e...> wrote:
Also...I learned something about beauty, from ancient Greece..
When people were young they would walk around almost naked
in ancient Greece...Then as they got older...they would wear a
HITONA (a cape-like covering). The reason for this was that
while they were out in public, to not destroy the KALOS (kalos
means BEAUTY in a way)...essentially to not destroy the
VIEW...for eyes to REST UPON beauty everywhere. Now I have
argued this point, that even in the wrinkled folds of elderly flesh
there must be beauty. But the ancient greek view was to try to
create on earth the beauty of the spiritual worlds...In any case
what do I want to say here. I believe we all have an unconscious
understanding...that all the beautiful forms we bring down to
earth, in art and architecture and music are from other realities,
that we remember and try to re-create here. And so we are kind
of "WIRED" to see beauty in all its forms. I mean a ripe apple on
a blossoming tree is beautiful. When it starts to wither and
decompose...well, yes this is a type of beauty but not
KALOS...KALOS is the exquisite form ....
So...to get mundane about this. I think it is natural that men or
women will be attracted to BEAUTY, in one way or
another...essentially unconsciously for this reason....This has
nothing to do with us as beings on earth and connection and
relationships, and attracting mates...and love making. This is a
separate kind of compulsion....I mean...besides my relationship
lover or otherwise...when I am old and wrinkly, I will have no
qualms about wearing a HITONA...for the essentially reason
said above...Respect for BEAUTY ....
So when a guy oogles a beautiful woman...I don't react any
more...Because I to oogle at beautiful men...but as an
understanding of it being a representation of BEAUTY on this
earth. But only that...I don't ADD to it...It has nothing to do with my
soul connection to others or the beauty I see in someone's heart
and soul at any age and in any form...IT just has to do with
BEAUTY as a physical formation...I hope this is clear...cause it
was hard to explain....
Lots of love,
Tima



Re: Another point about beauty in general

 

Hi Tima,

This is a wonderful note. Very Greek. I'd hate to be genetically
ugly from birth in ancient greece though. It is also the difference I
was refering to in a previous post between a woody and a poem.
The brain researchers were surprised the the guy's oogling
wiring came from the reptilian level of the brain. They were
expecting it to come from the part that writes poetry. You are
talking about the level that writes poetry here--that can conceive
of celestial beauty and harmony etc. I think they are different. For
me the essential aspect I always have to pivot from is that beauty
is so much more emphasized and important on the female side.
It can be a real pain in the butt sometimes even for people of
stunning physical beauty.

There is also a tribe in Africa that has something like 3000
names for various muscles. They are extremely into their
physical beauty. They also walk around butt naked UNTIL they
are 28 years old.

And even though they still look pretty good at 28, they are told to
essential "cover that up. we've seen that. you're older now. Stop
it. "

So they put on a loincloth or something. <ggg>

Careen


--- In Abraham-Hicks@y..., "t" <tima5@e...> wrote:
Also...I learned something about beauty, from ancient Greece..
When people were young they would walk around almost naked
in ancient Greece...Then as they got older...they would wear a
HITONA (a cape-like covering). The reason for this was that
while they were out in public, to not destroy the KALOS (kalos
means BEAUTY in a way)...essentially to not destroy the
VIEW...for eyes to REST UPON beauty everywhere. Now I have
argued this point, that even in the wrinkled folds of elderly flesh
there must be beauty. But the ancient greek view was to try to
create on earth the beauty of the spiritual worlds...In any case
what do I want to say here. I believe we all have an unconscious
understanding...that all the beautiful forms we bring down to
earth, in art and architecture and music are from other realities,
that we remember and try to re-create here. And so we are kind
of "WIRED" to see beauty in all its forms. I mean a ripe apple on
a blossoming tree is beautiful. When it starts to wither and
decompose...well, yes this is a type of beauty but not
KALOS...KALOS is the exquisite form ....
So...to get mundane about this. I think it is natural that men or
women will be attracted to BEAUTY, in one way or
another...essentially unconsciously for this reason....This has
nothing to do with us as beings on earth and connection and
relationships, and attracting mates...and love making. This is a
separate kind of compulsion....I mean...besides my relationship
lover or otherwise...when I am old and wrinkly, I will have no
qualms about wearing a HITONA...for the essentially reason
said above...Respect for BEAUTY ....
So when a guy oogles a beautiful woman...I don't react any
more...Because I to oogle at beautiful men...but as an
understanding of it being a representation of BEAUTY on this
earth. But only that...I don't ADD to it...It has nothing to do with my
soul connection to others or the beauty I see in someone's heart
and soul at any age and in any form...IT just has to do with
BEAUTY as a physical formation...I hope this is clear...cause it
was hard to explain....
Lots of love,
Tima



Re: [Abraham-Hicks] I'm confused/Prepaving vs. Time Lag

maija ruman
 

I don't think prepaving means moving physical events into some preordained order as much as it is reminding yourself how you want to feel for the next few moments. And you can change the way you feel in an instantant. No time involved there. We 'create' by deciding which ones, from all the universe of vibrations surrounding us, will be 'real' for us. Which ones we'll pay attention to. The vibrations were already there. We're electrical beings, attracting. LOve, Maija


Olivia Volmary <ovolmary@...> wrote: Here is something that I am a little confused on. How can "pre-paving" work
(for ex: before you get on the expressway to go to work, you prepave for a
safe, jam-free commute. Or, you pre-pave for a peaceful harmonious conflict
free day at the office)

BUT Abe says that manifestation is not instant and that there is ALWAYS a
time lag; so how can pre paving work?

I've always had a wierd feeling about "prepaving" and "how can it really
work" b/c , there's no time lag there. Because - What you are prepaving
for is going to be in the very next segment of your day.

Can anyone clarify for me or tell me if Abe has talked about this?

thank you!!
Olivia

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notes from Nov 3rd Abe Seminar

 

I was just cleaning my office some this morning and came across notes from the Abe seminar in ATlanta on Nov 3rd. Thought I would share what I got. Maybe someone will get something out of it. (I'm typing it very fast so I apologize for any typing errors here!)

* You don't have to "ask" more than once. But you CANT offer the opposite vibration.

* Usually you are in the flow more when you are not even thinking about your desire.

*You are a vibrational offerer that is always being matched. So, don't have to worry about other people and what they might do to you - just pay attention to your vibration.

* On "FEELING GUARDED" AROUND CERTAIN PEOPLE:
"I don't need to worry about it, because I am the maintainer of my vibration!"

Every person has good and bad in them. YOu can connect to summon the good in them. You never have to see the "not lovable" part. Only the part that you are a vibrational match to will come.

PROBLEM WITH ANOTHER:
Spend no time worrying about what happened. Spend time focusing on the part of the person that you adore.

Find things to appreciate about the experience. If they're not a vibrational match to it, they won't come back; if they are, they will come back.

WORRIED ABOUT MONEY:
What "we" do: "if things were different then I would feel better".

When the truth doesn't match the desire it doesn't serve you to speak it. Doesn't leave any room for the universe to help you out. (example: my investments are shot).

Source Energy is not shot. You have more control than you think!

Worthiness issue "I haven't done enough to reap those benefits"

"THOSE WHO ASK FOR MORE RECEIVE MORE THAN THOSE WHO DON'T" (this really hit home for me !)

Think in terms of current and vibration rather than currency and action.

So many people are earning more than could ever be justified (ex: rock starts, CEOs.. )

The fiscal world says "don't take time off"; the vibrational world says "take time off and work on your vibration"

Sometimes you may need to: take time off, get into a place of feeling good, give yourself some ease. Let well-being back in. Should only need 1 or 2 days. Is the most impt. thing for you to do.

Lady who works 18 hour days: she needs to pull back hours for her own use in every day - 2 or 3 hours

"you are activating vibrations that do not need to be activated"

*The greater work is in lining up energy within SELF, rather then occurrrences.

*Know what you want. Focus. Don't waver the energy.

HOW DO I LINE UP MY ENERGY AND NOT BE INFLUENCED BY THOSE OUTSIDE OF ME?
When you get clear about what you want, people and circumstances will line up to serve you.
When you are clear about what you want, others don't give you a hard time or have a hard time with it.

There is HUGE power in decision. There is SUCH weakness in lack of decision.

When you make a decision and you align with it, it's AMAZING the resources that are available to you.

CAREER/ AND CAN'T STAND HIS BOSS:
feels "muddled" about career. ..

You may not know exactly WHAT you want to do, but you DO know how you want to feel. In your Minds Eye, see it how you want it to be.

If you want to change your life experience you have to change the balance of your feelings. Then your point of attraction will change and you will see changes in your life.

EXERCISE: Every day, sit and write abourt something in your life that's happened that caused really good feelings (15 - 20 mins).

If you want to improve your WORK, you don't have to think about work being better. Just have to find SOMETHING to feel good about. So do the exercise above.

BOSS:
"He is only a temporary player. Not in your experience for long, now that you are controlling your own vibration."

"The only thing you have to align with is the vibration within you, that is it".

QUESTION: How come - when in blissful state, and something bad happens, why is that? Also, the opposite, when I'm in a bad mood, and something wonderful happens. why?

It's more helpful if you think in terms of the balance of your vibration, not just one bad moment or one good moment. Think about, what is my GENERAL mood, what is my DOMINANT mood, what is my mood most of the time? There is not much power in right now, because all sorts of things have already been launched.

It doesn't matter where you are now. You can always change it. ALL you have to do - is find thoughts that feel good right now. You DON'T have to decide everything that you want from here on out.

Your work - to reach for thoughts that feel good. This allows the receiving.

Chill out,and relax about it all.

The only good thing about making a physical change (for ex: your environment) - is that it MAY make it easier for you to feel good . But this usually doesn't happen because you take your vibration with you.

MESSY PURSE (ESTHER)- Your purse won't be orderly even if you clean it out every week - until you find the feeling place of order in your purse!

Once you get the feeling place, EVERYTHING falls into place around it!

===

As soon as you withdraw your attention from something not wanted, the energy dissipates around it.

Set your tone, make yourself vibrationally different from it, and it will not affect you.

======

*When you interact with others; you interact with the part of them that is matching the dominant vibration within you. Most people are vibrating all over the place.

MENOPAUSE:

It differs by society - b/c of the mindset. In society where aging is revered: there's no discomfort - it's looked forward to.

"the more you resist, the more you inflame", as with anything else.

say to yourself "I've decided to (love, accept) my body, . . .

Just try to relax and go with it.

ex: when you exercise and sweat, you just go with uit. You just accept it. Your body knows what it needs to do.

-----

This is all for now !!!

:)
Olivia



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I'm confused/Prepaving vs. Time Lag

 

Here is something that I am a little confused on. How can "pre-paving" work (for ex: before you get on the expressway to go to work, you prepave for a safe, jam-free commute. Or, you pre-pave for a peaceful harmonious conflict free day at the office)

BUT Abe says that manifestation is not instant and that there is ALWAYS a time lag; so how can pre paving work?

I've always had a wierd feeling about "prepaving" and "how can it really work" b/c , there's no time lag there. Because - What you are prepaving for is going to be in the very next segment of your day.

Can anyone clarify for me or tell me if Abe has talked about this?

thank you!!
Olivia

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cream sauce and conscious creation

t
 

You know when you are making cream sauce and you have put the flour and butter and made the paste and then you add the hot milk...and you are stirring and stirring and (sometimes with a little worry) waiting for it to thicken?...Well, there are a few moments there (especially if it isn't thickening quickly), that you worry if you put enough flour ....and for those seconds (that seems minutes) you kind of say...will it thicken, is it going to happen, will i have to throw all this out and start again?...and then suddenly there is a MOMENT and you can FEEL it on the spoon, that it is thickening and then within seconds...voila!! CREAM SAUCE.

Why am I saying this?...Well, alot of us get into the seconds of worry before the creation...And recently I had this about financial stuff...so one day I decided to deal with...and ONLY with keeping connected , in high vibe..NO MATTER WHAT...and I did this with great resolve...DID not think of details...and VOILA!!...this past week, one by miraculous one, money, clients...etc... CAME! I balanced the BOOKS per se...( it was interesting a post made this past week about manifesting the book balance, I will work on that) ANYWAY..ALSO, I could not recently really get to the FEELING PLACE of effortless wealth...and then well, one by one I paid the bills and broke even...and then my firend invited me to the PARTY I mentioned before...I did not want to go...made excuses that it was far away...and she used "guilt" (always works) and said she stayed in town to take me to the party cause she KNEW I would RESIST opening up to a new social circle...Well after five minutes of laying on the guilt I RELUCTANTLY went to this party...ANd there I MET a room full of people who most HAD MADE wealth for themselves (self-mADE) AND could FEEL how easy going they were about money and stuff...AND I CAUGHT the VIBE...this was cool...And I'm going to use this FEELING..Like I feel I am the same as them...effortlessly creating wealth....SO, I am mentioning this because..If for some reason someone invites you somewhere and you feel real RESISTENCE to GO...don't always think it's "INTUITION telling you you will have a bad time...IT MAY BE JUST old RESISTENCE butting its head...SO, my advice: GO TO THE PARTY...
Lots of love,
TIma


Another point about beauty in general

t
 

Also...I learned something about beauty, from ancient Greece.. When people were young they would walk around almost naked in ancient Greece...Then as they got older...they would wear a HITONA (a cape-like covering). The reason for this was that while they were out in public, to not destroy the KALOS (kalos means BEAUTY in a way)...essentially to not destroy the VIEW...for eyes to REST UPON beauty everywhere. Now I have argued this point, that even in the wrinkled folds of elderly flesh there must be beauty. But the ancient greek view was to try to create on earth the beauty of the spiritual worlds...In any case what do I want to say here. I believe we all have an unconscious understanding...that all the beautiful forms we bring down to earth, in art and architecture and music are from other realities, that we remember and try to re-create here. And so we are kind of "WIRED" to see beauty in all its forms. I mean a ripe apple on a blossoming tree is beautiful. When it starts to wither and decompose...well, yes this is a type of beauty but not KALOS...KALOS is the exquisite form ....
So...to get mundane about this. I think it is natural that men or women will be attracted to BEAUTY, in one way or another...essentially unconsciously for this reason....This has nothing to do with us as beings on earth and connection and relationships, and attracting mates...and love making. This is a separate kind of compulsion....I mean...besides my relationship lover or otherwise...when I am old and wrinkly, I will have no qualms about wearing a HITONA...for the essentially reason said above...Respect for BEAUTY ....
So when a guy oogles a beautiful woman...I don't react any more...Because I to oogle at beautiful men...but as an understanding of it being a representation of BEAUTY on this earth. But only that...I don't ADD to it...It has nothing to do with my soul connection to others or the beauty I see in someone's heart and soul at any age and in any form...IT just has to do with BEAUTY as a physical formation...I hope this is clear...cause it was hard to explain....
Lots of love,
Tima


Re: Food and weight and figuring it all out.

 

Juls,

First the guys and comments: As a friend of mine who has to
deal with extremely stressful military type situations says:
careen, some people are just a-holes. They've always been
a-holes. And they're always going to be a-holes. It's not your
problem.

As noted on the beauty thread: guys like that exist. They may be
in the majority, who knows? Abe would say they have a right to
exist. But, you don't really want them in your experience I
imagine. And since they will always exist, that means you have to
vibrate in such away that you don't attract them or the comments.

Okay, on to more constructive thoughts...

You'll break through soon. Before I lost the weight this summer I
spent a month doing abe type stuff before I lost a lb even though
my habits had changed. The first week I remember one night
lying in bed shifting around feeling like I could barely breathe.

But then it breaks through and you'll have a long period when
you're flying until you hit the next wall. :-) You sound close to that.

Now, during these ugly periods where the flying thing wasn't
happening yet, I just kept on that ediets thing like a normal
person whose IQ hadn't been messed with by Abe. :-)

Just think, thousands of people manage to lose weight every
year with no knowledge of Abe whatsoever. I'd always think of
one of my friends in college--when an extra lb meant life or
death. This stuff was *important* to her, and she would get very
amped about it.

Since you want to lose the weight fairly quickly, do the abe
exercises like you take cordy for a walk but don't worry too
much about changing deep core beliefs. Meet them halfway like
Esther with the sugar diet. For me a combo of Abe and ediets
worked best. Neither alone worked. You can deal with these
deeper beliefs later and write a book about it or something. :-)

Do what works. That's a creation, too.

Careen








--- In Abraham-Hicks@y..., "Julia Pierce" <laughingpaws@m...>
wrote:
OK, so maybe I phrased my question poorly. Intellectually I
understand that
food, excercise, etc can't effect my weight but the flip side of
that is
that changing what I eat, how much I excercise my body, etc
won't change my
weight either and I Know that that isn't true. So, how can I
change my
belief, a belief held for some 20 odd years at least, to match
my desire on
this one topic?

And, why is it that once I change my views or start to I get a
whole lot of
crap coming in to my life that just re-affirms my previous belief
when I
didn't get that crap before I started messing with it?

Ok, so the whole story. Yesterday when I went to work I was
feeling
GREAT!!! I was looking good, my eyes were shining I was in a
Fantastic
Mood, I could have moved mountains with a flick of a pinkie if
I'd wanted
to. The first people at the bar were a couple of guys. Seemed
nice enough
and one of them told his friend that this was the Appetizer
pregancy, his
wife hadn't eaten a full meal since she'd conceived. Instead of
going to a
restaurant for their food, they just went to the places that had
the best
finger food. I laughed, it was cute. A few minutes later I over
heard him
saying, "Yeah I'm hitting the strip club tonight, when she gets
fat like
this she just doesn't do it for me, ya know?" I was repulsed on
So many
levels and it was all I could do to not accidently push a full drink
in to
his lap.

A little while later, after they had left and I'd regained my good
mood by
playing with some new people I went to get some more beer
out of the beer
frig and slipped and fell. My favorite manager saw me, offered
his hand and
said, Well you have enough padding that you couldn't have
actually hurt
yourself. And he's NEVER said ANYTHING like this to me
before. It hit me
between the eyes to be honest. And throughout the night there
were other
really off the wall comments, but those were the major two.

I don't get it and I need help with understanding what I've done
with this
subject. I mean I just don't want to eat Anything now. I've
gotten
something mixed up along the way and want to straight it out,
that's all.

Anyway, thanks for the help

Wags- JUls and Cordy


Re: Changing the past

 

Dear Group,
What an interesting concept, changing your views about the past. Why
would you want to do that?
I had a far from pleasant childhood, a brutal one most of the
time.This was one of the reasons I got post traumatic stress disorder.
Now I had no intention of remaining a victim and so started to view
the past in a diffirent light. Instead of lamenting about poor little
me and remaining a victim I started thanking the past. I thanked it
for turning me into an individual capable of taking care of myself.
For teaching me will power and self-assertiveness. I thanked it for
allowing me to experience lovenessless which made me appreciate love
far more when it came to me.
Once I started this I saw the part played by my parents and those
that hurt me so dreadfully in another way. No I did not learn to love
them, but I did no longer look at them with hate either. They were
where they had to play a part in my early developement. I know one
thing for certain, if my childhood was anything else, I could never
have done the things I did afterwards. I am also sure that excepting
the past and understanding it, have done more for my recovery than
anything else.I had these experiences, I learnt what they came to
teach and I have let them go.The past doesn't exist and neither does
the future, all we have is now, let's rejoice in that.
Namaste......Jacqui


Re: [Abraham-Hicks] Food and weight and figuring it all out.

t
 

I believe it is called purging, LOL...You know when you stir the
waters...any sediment on the bottom is going to get all stirred...up... It
is a good opportunity, when your vibe is high...to once and for all...delete
the "sediment" if you know what I mean. Deep down you have a thought still
that your well-padded. You gotta one by one...when the guy said that about
his wife...go "delete", and the guy with the beer fall...go delete...it's
old stuff on its way out!!! and also if it gets a "RISE" out of you...be
sure its one of those buried beliefs... If the "OTHERS" are the bad
guys...your projecting...
And then again, when you WAKE UP finally and SEE what is going on around
you, and how most people, (us included) are on automatic pilot most of the
day)...its a little scary. Like the guy with the pregnant wife...he may
just be reacting to his buddies, or what he was taught to see as
beautiful...on AUTO...And the beer fall guy..same thing..It's really rare to
meet people who think a bit before opening their mouths. IT's all
automatic, really and it's freaky sometimes to see this.
I went to a party last night, and I watched what was going on from time to
time, between dancing around and enjoying the music and house (was
beautiful) but I watched the guys. I was with two girlfriends...I was the
big curvy one about a head taller and two times bigger, the other was a
blond, thin sexy, straight forward reporter, and the other a brunette,
mignion, tiny tiny bitsy little doll, fashion magazine editor. The
blond...everyone talked to...she danced and had FUN...and made contacts..and
all liked to be seen talking to her. (but that is how she is, that is what
she likes...gemini=contacts). The bitsy brunette..EVERY single "single-"
guy (the one's that move the room) made a hit on her...she was sweet and
small and a bit naive. Finally with the help of the blond...she made contact
with a very sweet, guy, at the last moment of the party (they are going for
coffee today).
I usually don't do well at parties that are like BARS with loud music...I'm
more the dinner party type..so at functions where the music is loud and I
can't talk..I'm left to see what my body attracts. When the party heated up
a bit (and the strutting stopped)and the Greek dances started going...and
the tsiftetelia, and the zebecika...I assure you I had every guy...rubbing
against me...and dancing and clapping and enjoying..And all the girls big
and small were feeling good..It is very primal...these dances..and they are
very ecstasy making..the entire room just was beaming...and everyone smiling
and sweating and connecting....So, I believe all these ideas of body types
are superficial. It is an error in thinking. When the pirmal self is
released...everything is beautiful.
I am well padded as well 5'7" 150 pounds..I've also gotten comments about
well-paddedness from some...and from others... have them drooling on me...it
is relative...I have had thin men and short men and tall men..whatever ..it
is a matter of partially chemistry, and mental thought forms and the degree
of connection with the other...It is not as simple as you are making it...IT
isn't just a matter of thin or fat...This is much too simplistic. So, its
like you are looking for excuses. The brunette made a connection because
she was young and didn't have much to hold her back.She was thin as a rail,
but had bad skin and was self-conscious about that..Your stuck on the idea
of padding...where my thin friend was stuck on some zits on her
face...Everyone has got an excuse...

Lots of love,
Tima

----- Original Message -----
From: Julia Pierce <laughingpaws@...>
To: <Abraham-Hicks@...>
Sent: Sunday, November 18, 2001 7:36 AM
Subject: Re: [Abraham-Hicks] Food and weight and figuring it all out.


OK, so maybe I phrased my question poorly. Intellectually I understand
that
food, excercise, etc can't effect my weight but the flip side of that is
that changing what I eat, how much I excercise my body, etc won't change
my
weight either and I Know that that isn't true. So, how can I change my
belief, a belief held for some 20 odd years at least, to match my desire
on
this one topic?

And, why is it that once I change my views or start to I get a whole lot
of
crap coming in to my life that just re-affirms my previous belief when I
didn't get that crap before I started messing with it?

Ok, so the whole story. Yesterday when I went to work I was feeling
GREAT!!! I was looking good, my eyes were shining I was in a Fantastic
Mood, I could have moved mountains with a flick of a pinkie if I'd wanted
to. The first people at the bar were a couple of guys. Seemed nice
enough
and one of them told his friend that this was the Appetizer pregancy, his
wife hadn't eaten a full meal since she'd conceived. Instead of going to a
restaurant for their food, they just went to the places that had the best
finger food. I laughed, it was cute. A few minutes later I over heard
him
saying, "Yeah I'm hitting the strip club tonight, when she gets fat like
this she just doesn't do it for me, ya know?" I was repulsed on So many
levels and it was all I could do to not accidently push a full drink in to
his lap.

A little while later, after they had left and I'd regained my good mood by
playing with some new people I went to get some more beer out of the beer
frig and slipped and fell. My favorite manager saw me, offered his hand
and
said, Well you have enough padding that you couldn't have actually hurt
yourself. And he's NEVER said ANYTHING like this to me before. It hit me
between the eyes to be honest. And throughout the night there were other
really off the wall comments, but those were the major two.

I don't get it and I need help with understanding what I've done with this
subject. I mean I just don't want to eat Anything now. I've gotten
something mixed up along the way and want to straight it out, that's all.

Anyway, thanks for the help

Wags- JUls and Cordy


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meteors lived up to the hype

 

Hi,

It's 4am and I just got in from watching the meteor shower. I have
seen several "celestial events" and been disappointed . Aligning
of this, eclipse of that. I got all excited and it was always a left
with a don't believe the hype feeling.

BUT THIS THING REALLY WAS COOL. This was great. Had a
great view. Saw a few really great ones. Hard to believe they are
only as big as a grain of rice.

Careen


For Juls and the diet thread

Carol Meixsell
 

Juls,
I think that you are attracting behaviors and comments which reinforce and validate your old beliefs. That and the fact that you have put much focus on this subject in the last several days is indicating that you have some momentum from past beliefs that you are still holding on to. I read your emails to group and others on other subjects and they very much resonate to the Abraham methodology. So, you know what you will be wanting to do? Identify what you don't want, state what you do want and attract from the good feeling place. Re this subject, you are stuck in part A and keep circling back to it regardless of how much is said. Then you say, "I know how it works and what I'm supposed to do, but..." (I call these the yeahbuts...) then you go on to share a story that reinforces why it's so hard for the method to work for you in this case. I remember in the 1st tape Law of Allowing, that when there is repetitive thought about something that keeps returning, you ask IB, What brings this forth? I have found with momentum issues that I have to WANT to let it go and move on before I ask that question. If I ask the question without the pre-paved intent to let it go, then I drop back into analytical mode, which was always successful for me but not nearly as successful as doing Abraham and didn't make me happy either. Other than a passing insight as to what brings anything negatively repetitive forth, analysis is an action, banging it out. Do you see? You will get the best benefit from the knowing that you are attracting and creating and allowing and that you can feel free to take your attention from this issue.
enJoy...carol
Julia Pierce <laughingpaws@...> wrote: OK, so maybe I phrased my question poorly. Intellectually I understand that
food, excercise, etc can't effect my weight but the flip side of that is
that changing what I eat, how much I excercise my body, etc won't change my
weight either and I Know that that isn't true. So, how can I change my
belief, a belief held for some 20 odd years at least, to match my desire on
this one topic?

And, why is it that once I change my views or start to I get a whole lot of
crap coming in to my life that just re-affirms my previous belief when I
didn't get that crap before I started messing with it?

Ok, so the whole story. Yesterday when I went to work I was feeling
GREAT!!! I was looking good, my eyes were shining I was in a Fantastic
Mood, I could have moved mountains with a flick of a pinkie if I'd wanted
to. The first people at the bar were a couple of guys. Seemed nice enough
and one of them told his friend that this was the Appetizer pregancy, his
wife hadn't eaten a full meal since she'd conceived. Instead of going to a
restaurant for their food, they just went to the places that had the best
finger food. I laughed, it was cute. A few minutes later I over heard him
saying, "Yeah I'm hitting the strip club tonight, when she gets fat like
this she just doesn't do it for me, ya know?" I was repulsed on So many
levels and it was all I could do to not accidently push a full drink in to
his lap.

A little while later, after they had left and I'd regained my good mood by
playing with some new people I went to get some more beer out of the beer
frig and slipped and fell. My favorite manager saw me, offered his hand and
said, Well you have enough padding that you couldn't have actually hurt
yourself. And he's NEVER said ANYTHING like this to me before. It hit me
between the eyes to be honest. And throughout the night there were other
really off the wall comments, but those were the major two.

I don't get it and I need help with understanding what I've done with this
subject. I mean I just don't want to eat Anything now. I've gotten
something mixed up along the way and want to straight it out, that's all.

Anyway, thanks for the help

Wags- JUls and Cordy


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For Jon being a part of the Abe group

Carol Meixsell
 

Dear Jon,
We are physical expressions of the non-physical. Non-physicals are just that, non-physical. Ahh but when we are physical, that is only a small manifestation of what is left in the non-physical. When we come here, we are not just BAM all here. Some of the unexpressed energy is still and always existing in the non-physical. When we "die" (remembering there is not death), we are just allowing the physical to dissipate so we can return to the non-physical. In Transcendental Meditation, for instance, the expression for coming into body is "Going from here to here, passing through there" except that to understand that, you have to know that "here" is the non-physical and "there" is where we are now, in other words, the physical. When we transition back into all non-physical existance, we have come home. Here in the physical is the journey.
It makes some sense that we are physical manifestations of energy which vibrates to Abraham's energy (you remember that Abraham is a GROUP of non-physical beings who find joy in sharing these universal laws with us).
jd <jd33j@...> wrote:
Abraham has said that YOU and I are also in this group of non-physical
friends at various sittings. em
///////////////////////////////////////////

Whoaaaaa, Em! Em! I'm part of this the group? Where did Abe say that?

I don't remember signing up... Anyway, if I'm part of Abe then I should be
getting paid royalties for my part of the tape, book and seminar income!!!
:o)

Just joshing, but I am curious how I can be part of it if I'm not dead
yet like Norman Vincent Peale......

Jon


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Re: [Abraham-Hicks] Food and weight and figuring it all out.

Julia Pierce
 

OK, so maybe I phrased my question poorly. Intellectually I understand that
food, excercise, etc can't effect my weight but the flip side of that is
that changing what I eat, how much I excercise my body, etc won't change my
weight either and I Know that that isn't true. So, how can I change my
belief, a belief held for some 20 odd years at least, to match my desire on
this one topic?

And, why is it that once I change my views or start to I get a whole lot of
crap coming in to my life that just re-affirms my previous belief when I
didn't get that crap before I started messing with it?

Ok, so the whole story. Yesterday when I went to work I was feeling
GREAT!!! I was looking good, my eyes were shining I was in a Fantastic
Mood, I could have moved mountains with a flick of a pinkie if I'd wanted
to. The first people at the bar were a couple of guys. Seemed nice enough
and one of them told his friend that this was the Appetizer pregancy, his
wife hadn't eaten a full meal since she'd conceived. Instead of going to a
restaurant for their food, they just went to the places that had the best
finger food. I laughed, it was cute. A few minutes later I over heard him
saying, "Yeah I'm hitting the strip club tonight, when she gets fat like
this she just doesn't do it for me, ya know?" I was repulsed on So many
levels and it was all I could do to not accidently push a full drink in to
his lap.

A little while later, after they had left and I'd regained my good mood by
playing with some new people I went to get some more beer out of the beer
frig and slipped and fell. My favorite manager saw me, offered his hand and
said, Well you have enough padding that you couldn't have actually hurt
yourself. And he's NEVER said ANYTHING like this to me before. It hit me
between the eyes to be honest. And throughout the night there were other
really off the wall comments, but those were the major two.

I don't get it and I need help with understanding what I've done with this
subject. I mean I just don't want to eat Anything now. I've gotten
something mixed up along the way and want to straight it out, that's all.

Anyway, thanks for the help

Wags- JUls and Cordy


Re: [Abraham-Hicks] Food and weight and figuring it all out.-one more thing

 

I just thought of something else.

You are ALWAYS the creator of your experience. Nothing outside of you can create in your experience. Right?

So food can't make you fat. Likewise, cigarettes can't give you cancer, alcohol can't ruin your liver, and so on.

If they could do those things, then we would be powerless to things OUTSIDE of us. Which we are NOT. Ever.


Re: [Abraham-Hicks] Food and weight and figuring it all out.

 

I'm sure you've heard of people having a fast or slow metabolism. Just think of those people who can eat ANYTHING and never gain weight. Or people who eat the smallest amount of food and they put pounds on.


Re: [Abraham-Hicks] Food and weight and figuring it all out.

Julia Pierce
 

HI Guys,

Ok so I admit that I may be being slow with this one but can someone please
tell me how it is that what you eat and what you weigh doesn't have a single
thing to do with one another? I just haven't gotten it yet even though I've
heard Abe and others say it over and over.

See, I am really psyched about this whole relationship thing. My Mom has
even commented on how I seem more open to having a relationship, etc. And
intellectually I understand that if it's true love it won't matter if I have
3 eyes or 2, but I still want to be looking better than I am, if only just
for myself. And I am very confused about this whole food and weight thing.
and REALLY REALLY want to clear it all up so it's no longer an issue for me.
Cuz since I've opened up to this whole relationship thing, I've also been
attracting some weird comments from people and have never felt heavier in my
life. Strange but true, so can anyone please help me in understanding this?

Thanks and Wags- JUls and Cordy