¿ªÔÆÌåÓý

ctrl + shift + ? for shortcuts
© 2025 Groups.io

Re: ABE at Collective Level


Juls
 

HI Jenna.

Abe has said, and this doesn't mean that it's right or wrong or even an
answer to your questions, but Abe has said that if you could see things from
a much broader perspective that the number of people who have interactions
with these groups is SO small that it wouldn't make even a blip on the
screen if you could count all of the people that have ever lived and who are
living now and were living then and who went thru that stuff. So you have
two choices, you can think about all of the injustice in the world and
concentrate on how to fix that, which is a never ending battle or you can
focus on the fact that for the majority of people in the world this kind of
stuff never enters their experience.

It's not a fulfilling answer for me, I've talked with many people who
survived the holocaust and who lost family in it. I have experienced
personally, and have close relationships with people all over Yugoslavia,
I've been in the middle of sniper fire and felt that kind of total terror,
smelled the smells, heard the sounds associated with that experience and it
just sucks, it's terrifying and I wouldn't wish it on anyone. IN my case it
was easy to know that I had chosen to be there, I had, I was a
photojournalist on an assignment that I had begged and pleaded and paid for.
But it was one of the more stupid things I've done in my life as well. And
it helps to bring perspective to my 22 hour days when I'm tired of being
covered in others fur and stuff.

But it helps when you realize that death isn't a bad thing or even an
unwanted thing. According to Abe and some others, it's the orgasm of life
itself, the final reward for being born and living, a thing to look forward
to. On some recent tapes they talked about how things were getting mucked
up for Jerry and Esther on their travels because Esther was needing to
justify the expense and changes that buying the mobile home brought in to
their lives. And one morning the Room Service guy over balanced the tray
and tipped a large glass of OJ all over a chair and some other things.
Later on, on the same tape, someone asked about death and they said, Truly
if it was us in your physical shoes, if someone dumped OJ all over the place
we'd be outta there, the smallest thing would have us dying on the spot and
re-emerging into Non physical, truly it is the best part of life, in one
instant releasing all guilt, all fear, all misgivings and re-emerging in to
Pure Positive Energy, now it's Birth that's nothing to right home about and
that's where your confusion and struggle about death stems from, you KNOW
what it's going to be like coming back in and you remember that experience
and so THAT'S why you fight so hard to stay right where you are.

SO, in a way, seen from a certain perspective, if death is a Glorious thing,
then the KKK, Nazi's Neo Nazis. whatever are actually providing a service to
some, to go back home, to have the orgasm of life. There are Easier ways to
go to be sure, but if you take out the death being a bad thing it lessens
the evilness of it to some extent. NOT that I condone it, but in their eyes
they are doing the right thing.

So, what to do, since that doesn't work all the way for me either? By
pushing against them and signing petitions and holding anti- anything
rallies you are only increasing their power and exposure. I think of it
like the old question, If someone threw a war and no one came, what would
happen? You have to have Two to tango, the pushers and the pushees or the
other way around. If they didn't get instant media attention or if no one
monitored them would they just disappear? I don't know. I do know that
when I was in the media that I ran in to angry people, KKK members, Neo Nazi
members and others with the same basic intents almost daily and now I can't
remember the last time these people were in my thoughts. Few dogs are
members of any of these groups.

So, I don't think I'd say that people actually Choose to have these kind of
experiences as much as they are vibrational matches to including them in
their lives. Just like cops and robbers are of the same vibe match. From
my own experience I know that I tried for 2 years to get to Yugoslavia to
cover the war, every time it got close, something would happen that made it
all fall thru. IN college we saw and analyzed a lot of photos from Vietnam
and it sounded like a very romantic thing to do and be, a combat
photographer out on the front line, blah blah blah. But it wasn't until I
had been living on board the ship and was incredibly run down on every
level, physically, mentally, and emotionally raw that it finally happened,
in fact I was at the lowest part of my life at that stage, just a total
wreck. Worse after I came back and it was then that I was offered a job in
Somalia and other Hot Spots around the globe but Pasha was hit by a car
instead and my life changed from that moment on. I can see the match
clearly now, so maybe that's how it is all of the time for members of those
groups and those that become their victims. I don't know since I don't know
them but the members aren't usually very happy people or well educated,
world travelers, etc.

I don't know if I've added any clarity to this subject at all, but while I
wish that none of this was part of our world, part of ANYONE's experience, I
think in some way it all serves a purpose, of contrast if nothing else.

LOVE YA- Juls

Join [email protected] to automatically receive all group messages.