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TDS784D attenuator


 

I have a TDS784D where all four ceramic attenuator hybrids are cracked. I'm looking for replacements, and would like to know if any other models use compatible attenuators. Would the attenuators from a TDS744A work (even partially so I can check the rest of the scope)?

If anyone knows where I might be able to find them at a reasonable cost, I would love to hear from you. I'll take one with SPC problems since I know I can replace the relays.


 

I have several attenuators from a different series. Substrate marking is below.

I'm working on an SPC problem on a 784A at the moment and think I have successfully fixed it by excersizing all the relays in a C# program and GPIB control. At first it was 50% success but realized I had not included the AC coupling relays, re-did it. 100 passes on the relays and it now passes SPC 100% for the last 10 tries.

Can you tell me what relay is used in the 784D? I was surprised to find the garden variety Aromats in the 784A. I expected more exotic but apparently they worked for Tek.

Substrate marked: H2365J (there is a parts site, Qservice, that references this for use in the TDS500 and TDS600 series but does not mention the TDS700)

Den

--- In TekScopes@..., "baltimora86" <acuffe@...> wrote:

I have a TDS784D where all four ceramic attenuator hybrids are cracked. I'm looking for replacements, and would like to know if any other models use compatible attenuators. Would the attenuators from a TDS744A work (even partially so I can check the rest of the scope)?

If anyone knows where I might be able to find them at a reasonable cost, I would love to hear from you. I'll take one with SPC problems since I know I can replace the relays.


 

--- In TekScopes@..., "baltimora86" <acuffe@...> wrote:

I have a TDS784D where all four ceramic attenuator hybrids are cracked. I'm looking for replacements, and would like to know if any other models use compatible attenuators. Would the attenuators from a TDS744A work (even partially so I can check the rest of the scope)?

If anyone knows where I might be able to find them at a reasonable cost, I would love to hear from you. I'll take one with SPC problems since I know I can replace the relays.
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As far as I know all TDS's with the attenuator housing attached to the
Acq board use the same type of attenuators. However there are a whole
lot of versions used and I can't say what the differences are, possibly
bandwidth may be one. The ones with separate attenuator housing, e.g.
TDS520/540/544A etc. won't fit.
/H?kan


 

Hakan,

The ones I have on hand I believe were from a TDS540. The shield is one large die casting that attaches to the board. The shield presses 2 black plastic carriers that hold some sort of fuzzy metal ended pogo pins to contact the pcb at one end and each substrate at the other end.

Den

--- In TekScopes@..., "Hakan H" <hahi@...> wrote:



--- In TekScopes@..., "baltimora86" <acuffe@> wrote:

I have a TDS784D where all four ceramic attenuator hybrids are cracked. I'm looking for replacements, and would like to know if any other models use compatible attenuators. Would the attenuators from a TDS744A work (even partially so I can check the rest of the scope)?

If anyone knows where I might be able to find them at a reasonable cost, I would love to hear from you. I'll take one with SPC problems since I know I can replace the relays.
----------------------
As far as I know all TDS's with the attenuator housing attached to the
Acq board use the same type of attenuators. However there are a whole
lot of versions used and I can't say what the differences are, possibly
bandwidth may be one. The ones with separate attenuator housing, e.g.
TDS520/540/544A etc. won't fit.
/H?kan


 

Hakan,

Just to understand a little better, are you saying that other models have individual housings for each channel, with each of those housings mounted separately on the PCB?

Thanks,
Den

--- In TekScopes@..., "denyhstk" <denyhstk@...> wrote:

Hakan,

The ones I have on hand I believe were from a TDS540. The shield is one large die casting that attaches to the board. The shield presses 2 black plastic carriers that hold some sort of fuzzy metal ended pogo pins to contact the pcb at one end and each substrate at the other end.

Den



--- In TekScopes@..., "Hakan H" <hahi@> wrote:



--- In TekScopes@..., "baltimora86" <acuffe@> wrote:

I have a TDS784D where all four ceramic attenuator hybrids are cracked. I'm looking for replacements, and would like to know if any other models use compatible attenuators. Would the attenuators from a TDS744A work (even partially so I can check the rest of the scope)?

If anyone knows where I might be able to find them at a reasonable cost, I would love to hear from you. I'll take one with SPC problems since I know I can replace the relays.
----------------------
As far as I know all TDS's with the attenuator housing attached to the
Acq board use the same type of attenuators. However there are a whole
lot of versions used and I can't say what the differences are, possibly
bandwidth may be one. The ones with separate attenuator housing, e.g.
TDS520/540/544A etc. won't fit.
/H?kan


 

--- In TekScopes@..., "denyhstk" <denyhstk@...> wrote:

Hakan,

Just to understand a little better, are you saying that other models have individual housings for each channel, with each of those housings mounted separately on the PCB?

Thanks,
Den

--- In TekScopes@..., "denyhstk" <denyhstk@> wrote:

Hakan,

The ones I have on hand I believe were from a TDS540. The shield is one large die casting that attaches to the board. The shield presses 2 black plastic carriers that hold some sort of fuzzy metal ended pogo pins to contact the pcb at one end and each substrate at the other end.

Den



--- In TekScopes@..., "Hakan H" <hahi@> wrote:



--- In TekScopes@..., "baltimora86" <acuffe@> wrote:

I have a TDS784D where all four ceramic attenuator hybrids are cracked. I'm looking for replacements, and would like to know if any other models use compatible attenuators. Would the attenuators from a TDS744A work (even partially so I can check the rest of the scope)?

If anyone knows where I might be able to find them at a reasonable cost, I would love to hear from you. I'll take one with SPC problems since I know I can replace the relays.
----------------------
As far as I know all TDS's with the attenuator housing attached to the
Acq board use the same type of attenuators. However there are a whole
lot of versions used and I can't say what the differences are, possibly
bandwidth may be one. The ones with separate attenuator housing, e.g.
TDS520/540/544A etc. won't fit.
/H?kan
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The early ones like the those I listed and also TDS620/640/644A had
a separate housing which contained attenuators for all four channels
and was connected to the Acq board with coaxes. These use a different
type of attenuator hybrids. I used to have a picture showing both
types side by side but can't find it now. The picture here
shows the attenuator used with
the newer type, i.e. with housing attached to the board.
/H?kan