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SC502 Trace Issues - Beginning and ending of trace connected.


 

I posted a phot of my new problem. Someone with more experience than I will probably know!

Please have a look.

/g/TekScopes/album?id=293496

Thank You!


 

blanking problems.? You might want to check the CRT bias adjustments and similar voltages.? Turning down the intensity should make it vanish.? If not, then definitely blanking problems.

Harvey

On 3/4/2024 10:07 AM, Barry Breaux wrote:
I posted a phot of my new problem. Someone with more experience than I will probably know!

Please have a look.

/g/TekScopes/album?id=293496

Thank You!




 

Interesting that you mention intensity. The intensity adjustment does nothing. I am troubleshooting that now.

Barry


 

You might want to see if the unblanking pulses are doing what they're supposed to.? (or blanking pulses).? In some older scopes, there are diodes that have gone bad.? Do be careful, since they may run the cathode and grid at elevated voltages (like 2KV).

Grid - cathode voltage *should* change with the intensity settings.?? Hmmm......

Harvey

On 3/4/2024 10:48 AM, Barry Breaux wrote:
Interesting that you mention intensity. The intensity adjustment does nothing. I am troubleshooting that now.

Barry




 

If the intensity control doesn?t work the blanking problem is a consequence of it.

With a high degree of probability one or more diodes of the intensity DC restorer are leaky. Since testing it is quite difficult, I would replace all.

This problem happens in several Tek models and also in scopes of other makers (Who copied the circuits designed by Tek).

Regards,

Ignacio

El 04/03/2024 a las 16:48, Barry Breaux escribió:
Interesting that you mention intensity. The intensity adjustment does nothing. I am troubleshooting that now.

Barry


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I am clearly out of my league... How do I find the "intensity DC restorer" circuit?

Thanks!


 

Barry,

Look at the crt circuit in the schematic. The diodes can/should be replaced with 1N4937 and I strongly suggest replacing R888 with a Vishay VR37 series 22meg resistor. That carbon will be out of tolerance. I would also suggest replacing the 1mfd condensers for the 70V supplies with a Nichicon ULD type and can be higher in capacitance, e.g. 2.2mfd, and the 1mfd decoupling from the crt bias with a 250V film type. Check the crt bias pot to make sure it is still good. The pot could be open. I have found these and a few others open in the 7000 series then replace them with a 10 turn 3/4W type. Yours does not need to be this type, unless you want it and the pot is bad.

Mark


 

Mark,

Thanks for the help! Greatly appreciated!

I am thinking the Bias pot is R873, its labeled Beam. Last week I found that pot had come apart. No trace. If I pressed down on that pot the trace came alive. I ran the scope with a 20K pot and it functioned. Then I wired the circuit with fixed resistors. 25k, 25K with a center tap until the replacement pots arrive.

I checked the 1uf capacitors with my Sencore meter and do not suspect them to be the issue. I will order replacements. The ones in there are axial and the ULD you recommended is radial. Is that what you had in mind?

I have ordered the 1N4937 diodes. It was previously recommended to replace the diodes in the DC Restorer circuit. I am not sure what the DC Restorer circuit is. Can you point that out.

Thanks!

Barry


 

CR884 and CR885, they are on A5 board.

Regards,

Ignacio

El 05/03/2024 a las 17:33, Barry Breaux escribió:
Mark,

Thanks for the help! Greatly appreciated!

I am thinking the Bias pot is R873, its labeled Beam. Last week I found that pot had come apart. No trace. If I pressed down on that pot the trace came alive. I ran the scope with a 20K pot and it functioned. Then I wired the circuit with fixed resistors. 25k, 25K with a center tap until the replacement pots arrive.

I checked the 1uf capacitors with my Sencore meter and do not suspect them to be the issue. I will order replacements. The ones in there are axial and the ULD you recommended is radial. Is that what you had in mind?

I have ordered the 1N4937 diodes. It was previously recommended to replace the diodes in the DC Restorer circuit. I am not sure what the DC Restorer circuit is. Can you point that out.

Thanks!

Barry

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The DC Restorer caps are C881, 2, 3, 5 and 7. They go between the main (A1) board and the HV auxiliary (A5) board. In my experience, they are more likely the problem than the diodes on the A5 board. But replacing the caps is a bear. By coincidence, I am doing the final edits of a video on replacing two tantalums on the main board which are under the A5 board and require removing the A5 board. I will add this intensity problem to the video, which I hope to get out today.

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Bob,

Looking forward to the video! Thanks!

Those capacitors are actually on the A5 Aux board. I had that board out for cleaning and inspection. I did not check the capacitor values.

I've been delayed... lost 2 transistors on the -20V supply.

Thanks!

Barry


 

Bob,

Which tantalums are you having to replace under the A5 board?

Barry


 

Here is the video:

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I would like to thank Bob for the video! So, thank you Bob! Well done!

I am replacing the following on the A1/A5 board related to the HV supply:

C850, C851, C881, C882, C883, C885, C887, R888

Regards,

Barry


 

Barry,

The d-c restorer diodes are on the high voltage board, A5 page <8> in the manual. The 1mfd condensers are on boards A1 and A2. All of this is on page 156-157 when looking at the PDF of the manual. The ULD types are radial and can replace axial types. Bend the leads at the bottom so they are a a right angle to the condenser body then bend where the leads will go in the holes easily, solder then trim any extra lead off. The ULD types are designed for the high frequency filtering these see, high temp and low ESR with a long life. I see Mouser has the ULD in 400V for this replacement. This is the Mouser p/n for the 22meg resistor (R888): 594-5053DM22M00F. The bad pot can be replaced with a fixed resistor from ground to the low side and the top to the 70V with the wiper to the circuit as usual. This is when you know the bias you want and have a lower value such as 20,000 ohms. A 1/2W or so 50,000 ohm pot as the replacement is fine. It likely will be physically bigger than original. That is set and left alone being inside the unit. If you want fine control of this, a 10/20 turn type can be used. I doubt that is necessary.

Mark


 

In trying to clean things up I delete the wrong message. Here's the correct video link:

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Bob Haas


 

Thank you for the informative video Bob. Efforts like that make it more practical to keep these wonderful old instruments going for a while longer. The magic smoke came out of my SC503, going to have to investigate soon.


 

RE SC502 CRT HV Blanking :
likely suspects:

High meg resistors in HV PS, Focus/inten
Scratchy pots focus, astig, inten


Easy to try that first.

Jon