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Reprint from Electronics magazine about the Tek 7854 scope


 

A few days ago, while searching in my paper files, I found an article reprint from Electronics magazine about the 7854 scope. The title is "On-board digital processing refines scope measurements".

If anyone is interested in reading or adding the article to her/his website, it can be downloaded from here (about 12 MB):



Regards,

Carlos


 

Carlos,

On Fri, 14 Sep 2012 17:49:54 -0000
"Carlos" <curbinap@...> wrote:

A few days ago, while searching in my paper files, I found an article
reprint from Electronics magazine about the 7854 scope. The title is
"On-board digital processing refines scope measurements".

If anyone is interested in reading or adding the article to her/his
website, it can be downloaded from here (about 12 MB):

I "love" my 7854 and this reprint is a fun read. Thanks for the scan!!!

Cheers,
Lyle

--
Bickley Consulting West Inc.


"Black holes are where God is dividing by zero"


 

--- In TekScopes@..., Lyle Bickley <lbickley@...> wrote:

Carlos,
I "love" my 7854 and this reprint is a fun read. Thanks for the scan!!!

Cheers,
Lyle

--
Bickley Consulting West Inc.


"Black holes are where God is dividing by zero"
Hi, Lyle:

Glad to know you like it! I don't have a 7854, but seems to be a wonderful scope.

Have a nice weekend!

Carlos


 

On Sat, 15 Sep 2012 03:51:56 -0000, "Carlos" <curbinap@...>
wrote:

--- In TekScopes@..., Lyle Bickley <lbickley@...> wrote:

Carlos,
I "love" my 7854 and this reprint is a fun read. Thanks for the scan!!!

Cheers,
Lyle

--
Bickley Consulting West Inc.


"Black holes are where God is dividing by zero"
Hi, Lyle:

Glad to know you like it! I don't have a 7854, but seems to be a wonderful scope.

Have a nice weekend!

Carlos
The 7854 I have is in the best condition of all of my 7000 series
mainframes. I suspect it was uneconomical to repair and sat in a
closet after the vertical CRT amplifier developed a minor but vexing
problem. I have not spent enough time to learn the programming
details, but I have no doubt that I will. It makes a great companion
to my HP-48 calculator since both use reverse polish notation.


Albert
 

At page 6 top-right there is something I don't understand: " ... and since two waveforms can be digitized simultaneously, memory 1 was also set aside." According to the Op manual and to my experience only one waveform can stored (in memory 0) during an AQR. The 'scope is allowed to be in, say, vertical ALT mode, but only one of the two real time waveforms will be digitized then. The Op manual gives the rules for which one.
Could this be a later improvement?
BTW Memory 1 is used and zeroed afterwards when AVG is executed.

Albert


A few days ago, while searching in my paper files, I found an article reprint from Electronics magazine about the 7854 scope. The title is "On-board digital processing refines scope measurements".

If anyone is interested in reading or adding the article to her/his website, it can be downloaded from here (about 12 MB):



Regards,

Carlos


 

The 7854 can capture two waveforms at once. It stores them in two different waveform memory locations, and I believe doesn't display both of them unless told to.
This is also how the 7854 acquires and displays stored XY. You have to acquire the X and Y inputs simultaneously as YT, and then display those two channels in XY mode.
Naturally, for purely analog use the 7854 does it the same way as every other 7k scope.

Dave Casey


Quoting Albert <aodiversen@...>:

At page 6 top-right there is something I don't understand: " ... and since two waveforms can be digitized simultaneously, memory 1 was also set aside." According to the Op manual and to my experience only one waveform can stored (in memory 0) during an AQR. The 'scope is allowed to be in, say, vertical ALT mode, but only one of the two real time waveforms will be digitized then. The Op manual gives the rules for which one.
Could this be a later improvement?
BTW Memory 1 is used and zeroed afterwards when AVG is executed.

Albert


A few days ago, while searching in my paper files, I found an article reprint from Electronics magazine about the 7854 scope. The title is "On-board digital processing refines scope measurements".

If anyone is interested in reading or adding the article to her/his website, it can be downloaded from here (about 12 MB):



Regards,

Carlos


Albert
 

Hi Dave,

Thanks for forcing me to look further in the manual. You are right, the procedure is shown at pages 6-25/25 and it works. Never too old to learn something!
Still I don't understand page 5-1: "If two waveforms are selected at the time of an AQR or AQS command, only one will be stored and available for subsequent measurements."

Albert

The 7854 can capture two waveforms at once. It stores them in two
different waveform memory locations, and I believe doesn't display
both of them unless told to.
This is also how the 7854 acquires and displays stored XY. You have to
acquire the X and Y inputs simultaneously as YT, and then display
those two channels in XY mode.
Naturally, for purely analog use the 7854 does it the same way as
every other 7k scope.

Dave Casey


Quoting Albert <aodiversen@...>:

At page 6 top-right there is something I don't understand: " ... and
since two waveforms can be digitized simultaneously, memory 1 was
also set aside." According to the Op manual and to my experience
only one waveform can stored (in memory 0) during an AQR. The 'scope
is allowed to be in, say, vertical ALT mode, but only one of the two
real time waveforms will be digitized then. The Op manual gives the
rules for which one.
Could this be a later improvement?
BTW Memory 1 is used and zeroed afterwards when AVG is executed.

Albert


A few days ago, while searching in my paper files, I found an
article reprint from Electronics magazine about the 7854 scope. The
title is "On-board digital processing refines scope measurements".

If anyone is interested in reading or adding the article to her/his
website, it can be downloaded from here (about 12 MB):



Regards,

Carlos


 

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Hi,

was someone able to get that file from filecloud ?

It wants a answer, but does not ask a question ???

Herbert


Am 22.09.2012 18:50, schrieb Albert:

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Hi Dave,

Thanks for forcing me to look further in the manual. You are right, the procedure is shown at pages 6-25/25 and it works. Never too old to learn something!
Still I don't understand page 5-1: "If two waveforms are selected at the time of an AQR or AQS command, only one will be stored and available for subsequent measurements."

Albert

> The 7854 can capture two waveforms at once. It stores them in two
> different waveform memory locations, and I believe doesn't display
> both of them unless told to.
> This is also how the 7854 acquires and displays stored XY. You have to
> acquire the X and Y inputs simultaneously as YT, and then display
> those two channels in XY mode.
> Naturally, for purely analog use the 7854 does it the same way as
> every other 7k scope.
>
> Dave Casey
>
>
> Quoting Albert :
>
> > At page 6 top-right there is something I don't understand: " ... and
> > since two waveforms can be digitized simultaneously, memory 1 was
> > also set aside." According to the Op manual and to my experience
> > only one waveform can stored (in memory 0) during an AQR. The 'scope
> > is allowed to be in, say, vertical ALT mode, but only one of the two
> > real time waveforms will be digitized then. The Op manual gives the
> > rules for which one.
> > Could this be a later improvement?
> > BTW Memory 1 is used and zeroed afterwards when AVG is executed.
> >
> > Albert
> >
> >>
> >> A few days ago, while searching in my paper files, I found an
> >> article reprint from Electronics magazine about the 7854 scope. The
> >> title is "On-board digital processing refines scope measurements".
> >>
> >> If anyone is interested in reading or adding the article to her/his
> >> website, it can be downloaded from here (about 12 MB):
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Carlos
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>



Albert
 

Hi Herbert,
Click "request download ticket" at the bottom of the first page. Then type the CAPTCHA field and "continu". And so on. No login required, but this "free" service will certainly try to remember as much as possible from your visit.
There was no question, but I had a question after reading the document.
Albert

was someone able to get that file from filecloud ?

It wants a answer, but does not ask a question ???

Herbert


 

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Hi Albert,

so far, so good. But it does not show the CA?ZCHA fieled but only
the "continoe" button ;-(((

Using FIREFOX ?!

Herbert


Am 22.09.2012 20:59, schrieb Albert:

?

Hi Herbert,
Click "request download ticket" at the bottom of the first page. Then type the CAPTCHA field and "continu". And so on. No login required, but this "free" service will certainly try to remember as much as possible from your visit.
There was no question, but I had a question after reading the document.
Albert

> was someone able to get that file from filecloud ?
>
> It wants a answer, but does not ask a question ???
>
> Herbert



Albert
 

Hi Herbert,
Yes, Firefox/Linux, but several other members could download the file also, see earlier responses.
Albert

Hi Albert,

so far, so good. But it does not show the CA?ZCHA fieled but only
the "continoe" button ;-(((

Using FIREFOX ?!

Herbert


Hi Herbert,
Click "request download ticket" at the bottom of the first page. Then
type the CAPTCHA field and "continu". And so on. No login required,
but this "free" service will certainly try to remember as much as
possible from your visit.
There was no question, but I had a question after reading the document.
Albert

was someone able to get that file from filecloud ?

It wants a answer, but does not ask a question ???

Herbert