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Scope-Mobile Cart Model 3 Disassemble
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John Griessen
On 4/18/19 10:06 AM, edwardhyliu@... wrote:
Can someone advise on the tools I should bring with me in order to disassemble it down to someone that is easier to transport?hex wrenches inch dimensions, open end wrench 7/16, 1/2, maybe others socket wrench 7/16, 1/2, maybe others posidrive screw driver #2 #3 ( or phillips) |
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Hi Edward,
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John has the right idea. I just think you can never have enough tools with you. Along those lines I would modify John's list slightly as follows: Open end wrench SET (inch) Socket Wrench SET (inch) For me personally, I never go anywhere without a hammer and a vise-grips. A small can of penetrating oil might come in handy if there are any rusted bolts. If I remember correctly (it was over 15 years ago when I last took one of these apart) there are two VERY UNUSUAL screws that the top shelf pivots on. Those have to be removed with care. A few minutes familiarizing yourself with the mechanical drawing for the scope cart would be a good use of your time. If all goes well you should be done in 30 minutes. Dennis Tillman W7PF . -----Original Message----- -- Dennis Tillman W7PF TekScopes Moderator |
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And take some plastic bags and label the screws and bolts as you take them
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off. It only takes a couple minutes and it will make reassembly trivial. Paul On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 05:04:01PM -0700, Dennis Tillman W7PF wrote:
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Paul Amaranth, GCIH | Manchester MI, USA Aurora Group of Michigan, LLC | Security, Systems & Software paul@... | Unix & Windows |
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Take a few pictures too, it will help.
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Leon Robinson ?? K5JLR Political Correctness is a Political Disease. Politicians and Diapers should be changed often and for the same reasons. On Thursday, April 18, 2019, 9:36:15 PM CDT, Paul Amaranth <paul@...> wrote:
And take some plastic bags and label the screws and bolts as you take them off.? It only takes a couple minutes and it will make reassembly trivial. ? Paul On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 05:04:01PM -0700, Dennis Tillman W7PF wrote: Hi Edward,-- Paul Amaranth, GCIH? ? ? ? ? ? | Manchester MI, USA? ? ? ? ? ? ? Aurora Group of Michigan, LLC? |? Security, Systems & Software paul@...? ? ? ? ? ? ? |? Unix & Windows |
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I recently bought one of these and I was able to get it into the back of a VW Golf cabriolet, even with the soft-top up. Indeed, the ability to open the roof of the soft-top was an advantage in getting the thing in! The main tilting shelf was adjusted to horizontal and the cart went in with its rear on the two rear seats, such that its narrow dimension was fore-and-aft in the back seats.
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Be aware that all Model 3 carts are not the same. Some don't have the framework and lower shelf, some have one lower shelf and some have two lower shelves. The bits and pieces that screw onto these lower shelves for the mounting of other scopes or TM500-series stuff are handy, too. If you get any of the mounting-straps, consider yourself lucky. Best of luck, Colin. -----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of edwardhyliu@... Sent: 18 April 2019 16:07 To: [email protected] Subject: [TekScopes] Scope-Mobile Cart Model 3 Disassemble I am looking at purchasing one but its located about a hour away and I have a smaller car so I likely wont be able to transport it in one piece. Can someone advise on the tools I should bring with me in order to disassemble it down to someone that is easier to transport? |
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On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 05:04 PM, Dennis Tillman W7PF wrote:
Hi All: If I remember... and it is the hex bolts/screws, in the pivot.. that are recessed... I used a ratchet and a socket, from a set of "deep sockets" to remove those. It's straight forward with that kind of socket... I found a regular socket didn't have the reach... but, you might be able to carefully extract the bolt, using a socket, from a regular socket set. Also I posted to a couple other threads, on the topics of scope cart disassembly. Regards all. |
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On Thu, Apr 18, 2019 at 08:15 PM, Leon Robinson wrote:
Along with picture, I use a sharpie, and mark the parts on the inside... where it isn't visible. I use 1A, 2A... and so on, for the left... and 2A, 2B...and so on for the right. I also mark the part, and where the part was attached. |
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Phillips or Posidrive.drivers for 90 percent, and a socket set for top shelf swivel hardware and for wheels... I just put one together that was shipped via UPS. The front cast handles are easy to damage, be careful of the cast aluminum parts. UPS broke a handle and I had to have it MIG welded. As I recall most of the hardware is metric.
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I would doubt the use of metric fasteners very much. They are much more likely to be UNF and/or UNC. Deane Kidd thought that metric fasteners were the spawn of the devil, because adoption of them would have meant that the spares department would have had to keep stocks of both metric and UNF/UNC fasteners and that that would have been impractical and a waste of space. I don't even think that Guernsey and Heerenveen used metric, despite the geographical logic of doing so.
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Colin. -----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of radioconnection@... Sent: 10 June 2019 23:48 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Scope-Mobile Cart Model 3 Disassemble Phillips or Posidrive.drivers for 90 percent, and a socket set for top shelf swivel hardware and for wheels... I just put one together that was shipped via UPS. The front cast handles are easy to damage, be careful of the cast aluminum parts. UPS broke a handle and I had to have it MIG welded. As I recall most of the hardware is metric. |
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I just checked a couple of the smaller screws in a Cart 3 (made in Holland) and they are indeed 8-32 UNC with a Phillips head
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Deane was right in my view too, but then I was brought up on BA, BSW and BSF threads..... Adrian On 6/11/2019 10:53 AM, Colin Herbert via Groups.Io wrote:
I don't even think that Guernsey and Heerenveen used metric, despite the geographical logic of doing so. |
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Hi Adrian and Colin,
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The only time I ever saw Deane Kidd get mad was when I mentioned the Metric System to him. I realized (after I did it) that it would have been a nightmare for Deane if Tektronix decided to switch its parts inventory to from the English / American System to the Metric System. I made myself a mental note to myself never bring that subject again. It would involve millions of parts and thousands of suppliers. For several years Tek would have to stock parts in both systems. Customers would be ordering spare parts for years to come and at the time Tek was famous for their product support so Tek would be expected to supply both versions of their parts. They would also have to support instruments that were in production with the English System and right through the transition to the Metric System. Dennis Tillman W7PF -----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Adrian Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2019 4:29 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Scope-Mobile Cart Model 3 Disassemble I just checked a couple of the smaller screws in a Cart 3 (made in Holland) and they are indeed 8-32 UNC with a Phillips head Deane was right in my view too, but then I was brought up on BA, BSW and BSF threads..... Adrian On 6/11/2019 10:53 AM, Colin Herbert via Groups.Io wrote: I don't even think that Guernsey and Heerenveen used metric, despite the geographical logic of doing so. -- Dennis Tillman W7PF TekScopes Moderator |
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