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Customs issues going from Sphere back to the USA....minimal ++++
wshawlee2
To make everybody's life easy, we always do up a commercial invoice if needed showing goods were made in the USA. to date, nobody has ever had a problem, they are US goods, returning to the country of origin.
Tek 2216 digital scope, anybody need a mint front panel or boards for this? I bought a new partial one a while back (heaven only knows why), and it's disassembled in a box. looking for a new home... I did find one of those pesky Tek fan motors complete with regulator board and fan blade assy. will test it shortly, didn't somebody need one? all the best, walter sphere research corp. |
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Re: Question on what to do with 4 pallets of scopes...
On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 2:34 PM, Chuck Harris <cfharris@...> wrote:
Thanks Stefan, your cool reasoning has helped toWell, it seems like you had made up your mind before you posted in the first place. But really, what you should do is a make a list, and post it here at say 25% over the scrap value. Then you won't have to pay any eBay fees or take the trouble to disassemble things. If you can't do that much, I don't know why you're a list member. |
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Re: Question on what to do with 4 pallets of scopes...
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýThe 7xxx mainframes that I have purchased over the past six months (7104, 7904A, 7934, 7854) all have gone between $225 and $300, with the notable exception of the 7904A which I think I bought for $125, and which, at this point, is the only one working (after I repaired it - thanks, Rob!). I see 7xxx mainframes going for anywhere from ~$200 to ~$1200 on eBay. I have no idea how many sell, but they keep showing up, so I assume at least some are selling. But my point is that there are those of us who can't spend a lot, but can spend some, and enjoy fixing a dead piece of equipment, so there is a market, albeit a small one, for selling these things. We just have to keep looking and have a bit of cash on hand when what we want shows up.My $0.02. DaveD On 2/17/2013 2:31 PM, Chuck Harris
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Re: Sphere Research storage building clearout update
I'm planning a trip up to Sphere with some hopes in mind,
using my E350 van (which has a class 4 hitch.) Sometime before the middle of May. (I have a court case going on right now and I need to get the little passport cards first.) I may be able to transport equipment across the border and ship from Portland, Oregon, where that may make more sense than asking Sphere to ship. I don't know the details of any of that, so whether or not I can help is more something to work out for yourselves. The main thing I care about is being able to cross the border without being delayed for days where I wouldn't otherwise have a problem. I don't mind putting in some labor just because, though. That's fine. But I've no idea if it "makes sense." I'm just going up, is all. (And will very much enjoy it.) Jon |
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Re: [TekScopes2] Re: Question on what to do with 4 pallets of scopes...
Rob
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýThe truth of the matter is that shipping is the killer to the trade. I end up for all intents and purposes giving away either my labor or giving free shipping for every scope and/or plug-in I have refurbished and ¡°returned to the wild¡±. ?I have enjoyed it along the way somewhat and have met new people but come the end of the day it is a money pit at its best. ? That said, with the amount you have I would consider taking a week off and picking up the lot to continue my pursuits. Of course reality is as soon as I make that offer I know it isn¡¯t feasible¡. because¡.even if the time I take to do it is paid for (by taking vacation from my current employer) the amount I would have to spend in gas, room and board from Northern Louisiana to your location. Would only leave me some few hundreds of dollars left to offer for the lot. If you were willing to take that. Which would only mean that I would have to donate more along the way just for the privilege of some shipping company wiping out several months of work and me refunding the purchasers price¡. so I guess I resend the offer before I really was able to see what all was involved¡sigh.. ? Therefore I propose the only real option left for you to recover your investment is to ¡°Cherry Pick¡±. You pick the parts and pieces that will sale ¡°as-Is¡± for reasonable money. Pull the parts like Tunnel diodes, knobs, or rare specialty chips and easy to get parts and pieces out of the rest. Finally call your scrap buddy and get rid of the rest of the headache. ? Anyway, my 2cents for whatever it¡¯s worth. Rob ? From: TekScopes2@... [mailto:TekScopes2@...] On Behalf Of Chuck Harris
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2013 1:22 PM To: TekScopes@...; TekScopes2 Subject: [TekScopes2] Re: [TekScopes] Question on what to do with 4 pallets of scopes... ? ? Ah yes, there is that: If I fire up the forklift, |
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Re: Sphere Research storage building clearout update
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýLet's not forget that most of those scopes are made in USA. If there is any label on the scope saying 'Made in USA', customs just let it through without any hassle.Miroslav Pokorni On 2/17/2013 11:34 AM, Tom wrote: ? |
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Re: Question on what to do with 4 pallets of scopes...
Chuck Harris
Thanks Stefan, your cool reasoning has helped to
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tip the scales. Thanks everyone, scrap it is. -Chuck Harris Stefan Trethan wrote: People are obviously not going to pay you for your time restoring the |
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Re: Question on what to do with 4 pallets of scopes...
Chuck Harris
It's been off the bay for quite a while. I think it
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was listed for about $150. There is an off the top of the stack 434 on the bay that looks like it is going to sell for $70 right now. Have you looked at 7000's recently? I haven't seen a 7704 frame sell for any price lately. The majority of the value in a 7704 is in that 5 lb hunk of motherboard, and the couple of pounds of horizontal, vertical and display boards. Gold plated scrap circuit boards are selling for $17 per pound right now. The motherboard is worth $85 in gold scrap all by itself. Granted, disassembling to a level where you can get those prices takes time, but so does setting up an auction on ebay... and the cost of listing and paying your paypal premium is not trivial. If a 7XX4 frame isn't selling over $100, the seller is giving away value. -Chuck Harris David DiGiacomo wrote: To give you an example. I found a DOA 434 in my stash, andHow much did you list it for? The cheapest current listing I see is |
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Re: Sphere Research storage building clearout update
Many years ago I brought a couple of half height computer tape
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drives over the border. The customs guys just laughed. It's a little tighter now, but if you show a receipt and don't try to conceal anything, 9 time out of 10 they'll just pass you through. Nothing gets a customs agent madder than someone trying to sneak something past them. Paul On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 12:32:14PM -0800, Bruce Lane wrote:
I did a run up to Sphere many moons ago, and came back with my van's rear floor covered with goodies. The border people's most pressing question was "Is everything there for your personal use?" |
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Re: Question on what to do with 4 pallets of scopes...
Stefan Trethan
People are obviously not going to pay you for your time restoring the
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scopes, so just stop doing it. Anyone interested in those old scopes has the means and will to restore them himself. Anyone who can't do that is better of buying a Rigol or something, let's face the truth here. You didn't get them for profit in the first place, did you? If you did, that's called a bad business decision, write it off. If you did not, then stop complaining. Frankly I can't raise all that much compassion for a guy who gripes about not finding buyers, but when asked for an inventory list considers it too much work to create. Like each and every one of us here I have lots and lots of useless, worthless gear sitting around, but do I whine about it? No, I suck it up and pretend it's treasure! And I bloody well don't test my delusions by trying to sell this junk out in the real world. ST On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 6:28 PM, Chuck Harris <cfharris@...> wrote:
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Re: Question on what to do with 4 pallets of scopes...
To give you an example. I found a DOA 434 in my stash, andHow much did you list it for? The cheapest current listing I see is for $225. That's just not a good way to sell a 434. What's the answer?I think the answer is to take them off the top of the pile and offer them for sale at something above the scrap value. Don't refurbish them since that doesn't pay off. |
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Re: Sphere Research storage building clearout update
I did a run up to Sphere many moons ago, and came back with my van's rear floor covered with goodies. The border people's most pressing question was "Is everything there for your personal use?"
In short -- I wouldn't worry. The border people are concerned with drug-runners and similar types. Us techie-collectors usually rate a mild rolling of eyeballs at most. Happy travels. * REPLY SEPARATOR * On 17-Feb-13 at 11:34 Tom wrote: On 2/17/2013 11:14 AM, wshawlee2 wrote:Many thanks to all that have contacted us, many items are now gone, andmanymore were discovered digging through the shelves....please remember, we are Kelowna, BC, Canada, easy drive from BC,alberta, oregonand washington,. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner & Head Hardware Heavy, Blue Feather Technologies -- kyrrin (at) bluefeathertech do/t c=o=m "Quid Malmborg in Plano..." |
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Richard Solomon
Calling the chap names surely will not advance your cause.
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73, Dick, W1KSZ On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 1:21 PM, <legg@...> wrote:
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Re: Question on what to do with 4 pallets of scopes...
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<snip> What's the answer? I keep hearing about how much you guysWhat did you buy them for, in the first place? I'm sick and tired of hearing about 'scopes on pallets' and curse the idiot who accumulates more material than he knows what to do with. First thing; make a list including models, serial numbers and working order. You might have to take them off the skids to do this. Publish the list here or somewhere else on the internet - along with contact info. You'll get inquiries from anyone searching for the part numbers. In the worst case, list them for auction with their scrap value plus shipping material, labor and listing cost as the minimum bid. If they don't sell - then scrap them yourself. |
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I've listed a fully-operational and calibrated 2467 on eBay for $499 and have not seen any
interest. That's the lowest price listed for a working unit of that model - others are trying to get close to $1K or more. ========================================= Pat, During March and April of 2012, I purchased three working 2467's at nothing over $300. ($220, $290 and $296) From my perspective the other prices are too high. Look at some of the listings, some are almost a year or more old. They list them hoping someone will fall prey. RP |
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Re: Sphere Research storage building clearout update
On 2/17/2013 11:14 AM, wshawlee2 wrote:
Many thanks to all that have contacted us, many items are now gone, and many... please remember, we are Kelowna, BC, Canada, easy drive from BC, alberta, oregon For those of us in the US, what amount of red tape could we expect at the border if we return with a load of test equipment? Is a border broker required? Tom |
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Tek DSA602A still avaialble at sphere
wshawlee2
This touchscreen, color CRT heavyweight wide-band beauty is sitting here, clogging up a bench, with a 4 trace plug in, good working condition. if any interest, let me know! will sell or trade (really would like an AM700), and since it looks like one or more people will drive up this way shortly, there's potentially a cheap way for you to get it down to the US.
I also found a box of spare 11K stuff for the 114xxs series and one for the 113xx series. will toss them in with a frame purchase. three's even a CRT in there. there's still a lot of generic (3BP1, 3RP1A, etc.), HP and Tek CRTs left, too. Even filling Dennis's van right to the roof didn't seem to make a real dent there. all the best, walter (walter2 -at- sphere.bc.ca) sphere research corp. |
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Re: Question on what to do with 4 pallets of scopes...
Chuck Harris
Ah yes, there is that: If I fire up the forklift,
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and take these scopes down from the pallet racks, unwrap their protective shrink wrap from the pallet, stand them up individually, and shoot pictures, and then re stack them and re wrap them with shrink wrap, start up the forklift, and put them back up on the pallet racks, I will have spent about 4 hours more and made my back sore, all on the promise that one or two of these scopes will receive more than a scrap value offer. In the world of historical "treasures", there are always two groups: Those that value the "treasure" for some purpose, buy it, and do what they will with their stuff, and those that cast scorn on the owners of the "treasure" for desecrating the treasure, but then put up none of their own money. Those of us who are invested in military vehicles and warplanes have seen this play out time and again... I really can't afford to be the museum for these very valuable pieces of art. I have all I need in my own shop. These are going to have to be scrapped unless we can come up with a better plan than my giving them away, or owning them for the future generations. Thus far, the prices on Tektronix scopes have followed a precipitous decline from their factory new prices. I have seen none, regardless of condition, that trade for more than the inflation adjusted factory price, and none that trade for more than the original factory price, save for the occasional 570 vacuum tube curve tracer. Perhaps there are too many examples of these scopes? -Chuck Harris Chin Siang Lim wrote: Hi chuck, |