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Re: Free 547 and plug ins (pick up in Boston area)
Hi again all--the 547 and plug ins have found a new home. Thanks! --Chris
On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 8:38 AM Christopher Galbraith < christopher.galbraith@...> wrote: Hi folks, |
Restore CD for TLA714
Sandra Carroll
Hi,
I just finished repairing a TLA714 LA which had a Bad HD. Installed Windows 2000 and got TLA software from XDEV. LA was perfectly fine otherwise. I am looking for anyone who has a copy of the TLA714 Restore CD with the OS and TLA software whos either willing to provide a ISO of the CD or I'll purchase from you if you prefer? I've got an original Doc CD coming but just don't have the restore CD TIA to anyone who can help Sandra |
Re: Alert for 519 owners - The significance of the Gold GR Connectors
I don't have a 519, but I figured some of the members would :)
There are several listings for 125 ohm GR (search for "GR874" but most sellers don't know the difference between 125 and 50 ohm connectors). 174325617026 363163812256 222979950687 223426804340 161839191197 333654464808 Unfortunately, I think someone got the adapters Dennis is referring to (don't see them listed). Better luck next time! |
Re: TDS544A with strange display
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Hey TT,
I groused through the block diagram and the schematics a bit more, and here's my hypothesis for how the VGA and the LCS interfaces relate. This is pure speculation, but I think everything below fits the facts that you've observed, the TLC34075 datasheet and the schematic. U2011 (on diagram <24>) gets the VGA timing and 5 bits per pixel data from U2101. It buffers up a batch of 4 VGA pixels, and then writes them to the VRAM (U400 et al on diagram <23>). The TLC34075 reads pixel data from the VRAM 4 pixels at a time, where each pixel is padded out to 8 bits by a zero bit and the two LCS_CSEL0/1 lines. The line scan frequency of the TLC34075 is exactly three times the line scan frequency of the VGA interface, and it displays each VGA line three times in rapid succession, once for each color in RGB (in some order). Padding the pixel data with the LCS_CSEL1/0 lines allows the TLC34075 to pick out the appropriate part of the palette for the current primary color of the pixel displayed, against the LCD shutter selected for the current replay of the VGA line. Now a good question might be why 5 bits per pixel, and I don't know the answer to that. One way to cut it might be 3 bits of color, one bit of intensity, and 1 bit of (text?) overlay. This could again be shoehorned into providing the display we observe through the right palette data. This might help narrowing down why your intensity modulation seems to be pixel clocked. If you look at the ordering of the data lines into and out of the VRAM, you'll see that they get interleaved into the pixel inputs on the TLC4075. I don't know why this is, but maybe you need to be focusing on the address and data lines for the VRAM. It might be as simple as a high-resistance or floating VRAM data line, possibly an "intensity" bit. Happy hunting, Siggi On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 5:20 PM durechenew via groups.io <durechenew= [email protected]> wrote: Last few days I just read everything in manual from start to end, |
Re: Alert for 519 owners - The significance of the Gold GR Connectors
Dennis,
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Is there a link to this listing? I am certainly interested. I actually have two of the boxes (actually, mine are walnut, according to the label on the bottom) and am only missing one or two of the impedance matching adapters. The second one I found local to me, and while the box is unfortunately in poor shape, it contains a total of TEN brand new reeds for the calibration step generator! Sean On Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 10:19 AM, Dennis Tillman W7pF wrote:
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Re: Help: unreadable listing from: 42W-4281-1 Measurement Variety. An Engineering Challenge Featuring the 7854
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We (TekScopes) are incredibly fortunate to benefit from the tireless work of Kurt Rosenfeld who has created and maintained the most astounding collection of information about Tektronix instruments. Whenever you are looking for documentation on Tek products ALWAYS go to the TekWiki at Dennis Tillman W7pF -----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of unclebanjoman Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2021 11:43 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Help: unreadable listing from: 42W-4281-1 Measurement Variety. An Engineering Challenge Featuring the 7854 Oh yess!!! Thank you folks! The scan you pointed on tekwiki is definitely more, more readable! Thank you again, Max -- Dennis Tillman W7pF TekScopes Moderator |
Re: TDS544A with strange display
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Last few days I just read everything in manual from start to end, sometimes backwards, to try to understand as good as possible how this scope works (CPU and display board).
Siggi was right about signal on Ch4 having some issues. Three new clips in Dropbox (name starts with 3., then 4. and 5.; all after CLEAR MENU pressed): The first one shows scope screen; Ch1 and Ch4 on display, no input signal on any channel; on Vertical, button Ch1 pressed and Ch1 light ON; nothing unusual (disregard fuzziness, it's angle of camera) The second one shows scope screen; Ch1 and Ch4 on display, no input signal on any channel; on Vertical, button Ch4 pressed and Ch4 light ON; some vectors on Ch4 show in red; if I switch to dots (in Display), some dots will show red. The third one shows VGA monitor screen; Ch1 and Ch4 on display, no input signal on any channel; on Vertical, button Ch4 pressed and Ch4 light ON; same information as above but on VGA monitor - no red vectors (not obvious, but to naked eye Ch4 is blue on VGA too). Previous idea stays (that everything is correct, up to the point where information is split between VGA path and Video path). Not ready to make assumptions, I'll wait a little, so the stuff settles in my mind; it seems everyday is clearer, but still some way to go... TT |
Re: 485 super weak brightness control
Trust me it's the phones auto correct turning opamp into obama :)I know I was just kidding. I also had my share of funny auto correct stories. I think I had the timebase measurements AC coupled and there was no changeThe goal is to find if sweep trigger is not coming (no gate) or sweep trigger comes but sweep doesn't happen. DC levels are important to understand the state of the sweep circuit. At the end most likely it will be a dirty switch. You can make a good guess which one by looking sheet <10> and see which switches only change in the last three settings. However, we can also pinpoint which one by electrical debug. BAV21 looks OK as a replacement, it has better specs in some areas. The swing at the restorer input is ~ 100Vpp max, so the diodes in the grid bias area will not see more than 200V. Close to max spec but could be a good initial debug step. If others see a problem please chime in. Ozan |
Re: I built a TM500 mainframe tester, and updated the design. Someone might find this useful?
Just use good sockets!? I usually socket the ICs in all my projects because I hate desoldering them should the need arise, and I try to use machined sockets where possible.
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-Dave On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 08:43:15 AM PDT, Jared Cabot via groups.io <jaredcabot@...> wrote:
Well, I'm glad it wasn't my design that was in error. :D I'm interested in why the opamps popped too, I wonder if there is a bodge that can be added to existing units to protect the opamps from this issue, and maybe be added into the board layout for future board revisions. I might add a suggestion to socket the opamps in the manual too. At least they are cheap parts to replace... Jared. |
Re: 485 super weak brightness control
Trust me it's the phones auto correct turning opamp into obama :)
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I think I had the timebase measurements AC coupled and there was no change in level. I haven't checked the DC. I will do that tomorrow when I'm back at the workshop. On Wed, 17 Mar 2021, 18:17 Ozan, <ozan_g@...> wrote:
I have cleaned thoroughly the entire area with IPA and now I have steadyPlease no politics in the group :) |
Re: Alert for 519 owners - The significance of the Gold GR Connectors
Agreed, but I should point out again that I have seen 2 or 3 gold plated GR connectors that are not 125 ohm, and one of my 519s has no gold plating at all on it's connectors (and they are 125 ohm types).? So while basically true, there are exceptions to the rule.
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-Dave On Wednesday, March 17, 2021, 10:19:49 AM PDT, Dennis Tillman W7pF <dennis@...> wrote:
Hi Charles and Dave and Sean, The RATIO of the diameter of the INSIDE of the OUTER conductor to the OUTER diameter of the INSIDE conductor and the dielectric constant of the medium in between the conductors determines the impedance of a coaxial cable (or adapter). This is why, if you look inside the gold plated end, you will see the center conductor is a completely different size than the 50 ohm center conductor. Tek gold plated the 125 ohm ends of these GR connectors to distinguish them from the 50 ohm end. ANY gold plated GR connector is a 125 ohm impedance and guaranteed to be part of the original set of 50 ohm to 125 ohm adapters and tools which came with every 519 in a beautiful mahogany box. I had one of those boxes many years ago. My friend Barrie Gilbert bought it from my friend who had most of the adapters that went with it when Barrie came to my house to pick up his 519. A picture of the outside of the mahogany box is at Unfortunately I no longer have a picture of the inside of the box with the adapters. By the way, the price he is asking for these adapters ($12 each) is ridiculously cheap. DO NOT HESITATE to use his BUY IT NOW option. There are many, many others who will take the extra ones from you for twice what you pay for these four. Dennis Tillman W7pF -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sean Turner Sent: Monday, March 08, 2021 1:29 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Alert for 519 owners I need the N50/T125 ones to finish my set of 519 accessories. Anyone want to split these with me if I buy them? I do not need two more T50/T125s. Sean -- Dennis Tillman W7pF TekScopes Moderator |
Alert for 519 owners - The significance of the Gold GR Connectors
Hi Charles and Dave and Sean,
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The RATIO of the diameter of the INSIDE of the OUTER conductor to the OUTER diameter of the INSIDE conductor and the dielectric constant of the medium in between the conductors determines the impedance of a coaxial cable (or adapter). This is why, if you look inside the gold plated end, you will see the center conductor is a completely different size than the 50 ohm center conductor. Tek gold plated the 125 ohm ends of these GR connectors to distinguish them from the 50 ohm end. ANY gold plated GR connector is a 125 ohm impedance and guaranteed to be part of the original set of 50 ohm to 125 ohm adapters and tools which came with every 519 in a beautiful mahogany box. I had one of those boxes many years ago. My friend Barrie Gilbert bought it from my friend who had most of the adapters that went with it when Barrie came to my house to pick up his 519. A picture of the outside of the mahogany box is at Unfortunately I no longer have a picture of the inside of the box with the adapters. By the way, the price he is asking for these adapters ($12 each) is ridiculously cheap. DO NOT HESITATE to use his BUY IT NOW option. There are many, many others who will take the extra ones from you for twice what you pay for these four. Dennis Tillman W7pF -----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Sean Turner Sent: Monday, March 08, 2021 1:29 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Alert for 519 owners I need the N50/T125 ones to finish my set of 519 accessories. Anyone want to split these with me if I buy them? I do not need two more T50/T125s. Sean -- Dennis Tillman W7pF TekScopes Moderator |
Re: 485 super weak brightness control
I have cleaned thoroughly the entire area with IPA and now I have steadyPlease no politics in the group :) basically zeroes at pins 2 and 3 and 0.6V at pin 6, the grid bias seatingIt looks like your HV supply is in good shape now. The Z out DC is now 16 to 165V when I regulate this but there is no impactWith these new measurements observations are pointing to faulty diodes. Flat at what voltage level? Compared to good waveforms are these waveforms at the max/min of the good waveforms are at a different DC voltage? Ozan |
Re: 485 super weak brightness control
The UF4004 vs BAV21.
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BAV is same speed with 50ns recovery but 250V, UF4004 is 400V and higher current at the same speed. I have BAV21 in stock, I'd have to order in the UF4004s On Wed, 17 Mar 2021, 16:46 Ozan, <ozan_g@...> wrote:
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Re: 485 super weak brightness control
+75 to +110
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On Wed, 17 Mar 2021, 17:37 Ozan, <ozan_g@...> wrote:
The grid bias changes the voltage at TP1665 but does not have any visibleWhat voltage range do you see at TP1665 when you change grid bias. No need |
Re: 485 super weak brightness control
The HV area is now lot better
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I have cleaned thoroughly the entire area with IPA and now I have steady -2950. This also resolved the problems at the Obama where now I have basically zeroes at pins 2 and 3 and 0.6V at pin 6, the grid bias seating is changing the U1665 but has no visible impact on the trace. The Z out DC is now 16 to 165V when I regulate this but there is no impact on the trace Regarding the timing I can see triangle wave and pulse on respective outputs and they change shape /frequency as I change the timing basically making them narrower but this trend stops and they don't change shape in last few settings but remain exactly the same. Screen is blank or picture drifts in partially from the side but cannot be centered On Wed, 17 Mar 2021, 16:46 Ozan, <ozan_g@...> wrote:
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Peter Keller Article
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Paul Humel
While surfing the web, I came across this link entitled "Tektronix CRT History" by Peter Keller. It may be of interest to the group.
I'm a newbie here, so I'm not sure if the link above will work. If not, just google Keller Tektronix CRT History October 2006. Paul Humel |
Re: 485 super weak brightness control
The grid bias changes the voltage at TP1665 but does not have any visibleWhat voltage range do you see at TP1665 when you change grid bias. No need to re-measure, just ballpark numbers you remember. Especially the sign, positive or negative voltage. Ozan |
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