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Re: What are these Tek parts for?

 

One of those looks like the front cover for a series-7000 scope (option #8). It even still has the foam bits for holding probe parts. I've no idea what the other thing is, but could it be some kind of implosion screen?
Colin.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Berlind
Sent: 02 July 2018 02:14
To: [email protected]
Subject: [TekScopes] What are these Tek parts for?

Two parts... some sort of cover.. but I don't think it's for anything I own. Smells like an old Tek scope too! If I have no need for this and someone else does, I'd be happy to stick it in a box if you cover postage.


Re: Tek on Youtube

 

Interesting stuff, thanx!!


Re: s3100 restoration

 

Here's some photos of the 568 & 3T6 I got from a local Surplus Store.
They're pretty crappy photos the Sun is going down but somebody wanted to
see them.

I wish I still had my mod sheets of all the different S3100 mods and mods
to the 568 3T6/3S6 we did for the S3200 family.

I guess just more things to figure out.

Plug-in wise it's starting to look like getting a clean 3S6 might be an
issue.

On Sun, Jul 1, 2018, 1:51 PM Pete Lancashire <xyzzypdx@...> wrote:

It's going to be a big project I hope to be able to complete at least parts
of it so that whoever may take it on after me will not have a hard time
finishing it ?

Very few people know the history of ATE Tektronix was decades ahead of
everybody else. And also made a bundle of money in the process.
Unfortunately almost everybody involved got no recognition.

On Sun, Jul 1, 2018, 11:09 AM Miguel Work <harrimansat@...> wrote:

Amazing, please photos!!!

-----Mensaje original-----
De: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] En nombre de Pete
Lancashire
Enviado el: domingo, 1 de julio de 2018 18:00
Para: [email protected]
Asunto: [TekScopes] s3100 restoration

I acquired a very clean 568 & 3T6 yesterday. Pictures by end of day.

Registered S3100.org

Put offers on 2 x sampling head extenders and were accepted.

Need / looking for

- Plugin paddle boards, or one I can use to get boars made
- Board extenders for the inside boards in the 3T6
- P/N for the interconnect cables and cables
- A-3A heads and accessories.
- R241 & cards, etc.
- S3110 rack. there must be on in the Beaverton/Portland area, Even
the
name plate would be nice.
- Test drawer, dut holder etc
- Integration manual (interconnect) not needed but would be nice to
have, does give p/n's for all cables.

Next week will be picking up at least one mouse poop covered R230 and at
least two R568s for parts.









What are these Tek parts for?

 

Two parts... some sort of cover.. but I don't think it's for anything I own. Smells like an old Tek scope too! If I have no need for this and someone else does, I'd be happy to stick it in a box if you cover postage.


Re: Tek on Youtube

 

On 2018-07-01 5:38 PM, HankC, Boston, WA1HOS via Groups.Io wrote:

Found this on the Vintage Tek website I found it extremelyinteresting.


This really is a gem and quite revealing of the attitudes and
thoroughness that promoted Tektronix quality. Thanks for the link.

--Toby


HankC, Boston WA1HOS




Looking for Rare Trace Rot/Trace Sep Pot for 556

 

Part number is 311-0595-00

It's 3 potentiometers... two 500 kohm pots, and one 10 kohm pot.

If I'm unable to find this potentiometer, anyone have any ideas what sort of modern thing I could replace it with? I have access to a machine shop if that helps.


Re: K213 Instrument Cart Drawer Jammed

Chuck Harris
 

I kind of doubt that it is painted metal on painted
metal.

Every scope cart drawer that I have seen has a few
holes at their ends that hold little plastic buttons
that the drawer glides on. They don't become painted
metal on painted metal until the nylon/delrin buttons
disintegrate.

-Chuck Harris

Jim Hill wrote:

After much fiddling around, I managed to close the drawer, put the scope on it's side
and remove the bottom plate. There is nothing sophisticated like tabs to move when
removing the drawer. It is just painted metal sliding on painted metal. I'm unable
to remove the drawer, but fortunately don't need to do so. The drawer just binds when
attempting to open or close, and if you give it a good try, it jams. I will try
using paste floor wax on the sliding surfaces and see if that helps.
Jim


At 05:24 PM 6/29/2018, Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Are there locks on the drawer slides that drop into place when you pull it all thew
way out? If so you push in on them, while closing the drawer.


Michael A. Terrell


7912AD Fails start-up self-test (perhaps)

 

So as of a few hours ago I became the proud owner of a 7912AD with a matched pair of 624 & 634 monitors.
The inevitable puff of smoke led me to a hot 10R resistor and thus the equally inevitable shorted blue tant (why is it nearly always the blue ones that die but only rarely the yellow ones?) on the +15V rail on A38 Scan board. Once that was fixed things seemed ok power-wise, or at least all voltages looked ok on the PSU test points, the fan runs up but we don't get much further.
I believe I should see the 'Remote' and 'Digital' lights come on for two seconds followed by the 'TV' and 'Local' lights coming on but all I see is two brief flashes of the 'Reduce Intensity' LED, a short pause, a third flash then nothing.
My question is: Does the self-test actually flash that LED (it is not mentioned in the manual as far as I can see) or does the fact that it comes on at all mean that the system is sensing a high intensity somehow and aborting the start-up? - and yes, the two intensity pots are set at minimum.
Right now I'm thinking it could be the A10 front panel and A22 'Translator' boards need looking at ..... but I'm still wading through 400+pages of manual......
Adrian


Tek on Youtube

 

Found this on the Vintage Tek website I found it extremelyinteresting.




HankC, Boston WA1HOS


Re: K213 Instrument Cart Drawer Jammed

 

Try using a bar of soap for lubricant. It won't affect the paint, and it has worked well for hundreds of years.


Michael A. Terrell

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Hill <slimjimwas@...>
Sent: Jul 1, 2018 5:04 PM
To: [email protected], [email protected]
Subject: Re: [TekScopes] K213 Instrument Cart Drawer Jammed

After much fiddling around, I managed to close the drawer, put the
scope on it's side and remove the bottom plate. There is nothing
sophisticated like tabs to move when removing the drawer. It is just
painted metal sliding on painted metal. I'm unable to remove the
drawer, but fortunately don't need to do so. The drawer just binds
when attempting to open or close, and if you give it a good try, it
jams. I will try using paste floor wax on the sliding surfaces and
see if that helps.


Re: K213 Instrument Cart Drawer Jammed

 

After much fiddling around, I managed to close the drawer, put the scope on it's side and remove the bottom plate. There is nothing sophisticated like tabs to move when removing the drawer. It is just painted metal sliding on painted metal. I'm unable to remove the drawer, but fortunately don't need to do so. The drawer just binds when attempting to open or close, and if you give it a good try, it jams. I will try using paste floor wax on the sliding surfaces and see if that helps.
Jim

At 05:24 PM 6/29/2018, Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Are there locks on the drawer slides that drop into place when you pull it all thew way out? If so you push in on them, while closing the drawer.


Michael A. Terrell


-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Hill <slimjimwas@...>
Sent: Jun 29, 2018 6:53 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [TekScopes] K213 Instrument Cart Drawer Jammed

After many years, I attempted to open the drawer. I was successful,
but it didn't open smoothly and I cannot close it now. Looking
underneath, there is a plate covering everything but the last 3 1/2
to 4 inches at the rear of the cart. The front of the drawer is in
this gap, and I think it is hitting the plate, preventing it from
closing. Tilting the drawer up to clear doesn't help. I assume this
area allows the drawer to be removed, something like removing a file
cabinet drawer, but no luck there.

I'm guessing I'm missing something obvious, so before removing the
scope and tipping the cart over, I thought I would ask the
group. I've been retired for over 20 years, so can't go the lab and
ask one of the tech's.


Re: s3100 restoration

 

It's going to be a big project I hope to be able to complete at least parts
of it so that whoever may take it on after me will not have a hard time
finishing it ?

Very few people know the history of ATE Tektronix was decades ahead of
everybody else. And also made a bundle of money in the process.
Unfortunately almost everybody involved got no recognition.

On Sun, Jul 1, 2018, 11:09 AM Miguel Work <harrimansat@...> wrote:

Amazing, please photos!!!

-----Mensaje original-----
De: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] En nombre de Pete
Lancashire
Enviado el: domingo, 1 de julio de 2018 18:00
Para: [email protected]
Asunto: [TekScopes] s3100 restoration

I acquired a very clean 568 & 3T6 yesterday. Pictures by end of day.

Registered S3100.org

Put offers on 2 x sampling head extenders and were accepted.

Need / looking for

- Plugin paddle boards, or one I can use to get boars made
- Board extenders for the inside boards in the 3T6
- P/N for the interconnect cables and cables
- A-3A heads and accessories.
- R241 & cards, etc.
- S3110 rack. there must be on in the Beaverton/Portland area, Even the
name plate would be nice.
- Test drawer, dut holder etc
- Integration manual (interconnect) not needed but would be nice to
have, does give p/n's for all cables.

Next week will be picking up at least one mouse poop covered R230 and at
least two R568s for parts.







Re: s3100 restoration

 

Amazing, please photos!!!

-----Mensaje original-----
De: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] En nombre de Pete Lancashire
Enviado el: domingo, 1 de julio de 2018 18:00
Para: [email protected]
Asunto: [TekScopes] s3100 restoration

I acquired a very clean 568 & 3T6 yesterday. Pictures by end of day.

Registered S3100.org

Put offers on 2 x sampling head extenders and were accepted.

Need / looking for

- Plugin paddle boards, or one I can use to get boars made
- Board extenders for the inside boards in the 3T6
- P/N for the interconnect cables and cables
- A-3A heads and accessories.
- R241 & cards, etc.
- S3110 rack. there must be on in the Beaverton/Portland area, Even the
name plate would be nice.
- Test drawer, dut holder etc
- Integration manual (interconnect) not needed but would be nice to
have, does give p/n's for all cables.

Next week will be picking up at least one mouse poop covered R230 and at least two R568s for parts.


s3100 restoration

 

I acquired a very clean 568 & 3T6 yesterday. Pictures by end of day.

Registered S3100.org

Put offers on 2 x sampling head extenders and were accepted.

Need / looking for

- Plugin paddle boards, or one I can use to get boars made
- Board extenders for the inside boards in the 3T6
- P/N for the interconnect cables and cables
- A-3A heads and accessories.
- R241 & cards, etc.
- S3110 rack. there must be on in the Beaverton/Portland area, Even the
name plate would be nice.
- Test drawer, dut holder etc
- Integration manual (interconnect) not needed but would be nice to
have, does give p/n's for all cables.

Next week will be picking up at least one mouse poop covered R230 and at
least two R568s for parts.


Re: Transistor Full Documentary

stefan_trethan
 

Interesting coincidence, I watched it just this morning!

While I was generally familiar with the history, it had somehow never
struck me before how the transistor schematic symbol and the terms
emitter, collector, base directly derive from the point contact
transistor.

ST

On Sun, Jul 1, 2018 at 4:01 PM, lop pol via Groups.Io
<the_infinite_penguin@...> wrote:


It may not be directly about Tektronix but the video is full of Tek scopes.



Transistor Full Documentary

 



It may not be directly about Tektronix but the video is full of Tek scopes.


Re: Tek 465 no display

 

On Sat, 30 Jun 2018 19:29:50 -0700, you wrote:

Hi Harvey, I might have to go a bit more budget on the rework station to begin with. So far I have been lucky. When I need something and keep a positive belief that the need will be met, something always turns up that I can afford. I have almost all Xytronic soldering stations in the lab. Some old Weller and Pace stuff too. When I bought some additional Xytronic gear over 10 yrs ago Xytronic had just come out with new models and Howard's Supply in the US had a close out on the older, more bulletproof units.even the tips were cheap, so I bought 6. Not one has failed. I have two of their newer soft button controlled units but I like the older dial type better. I have a 60 min timer on each bench that all soldering irons and some other tools are plugged into. That was originally for my repair work. I would get called away from what I was doing and sometimes left my iron on. No Bueno!
Since there are two basic types of rework stations, I have had to get
both. I've had the best luck with a Hakko gun, but I've gotten Ungar
and Hakko "wand style" for through holes. For SMT stuff I've got
either a hot air gun, (use carefully), a Xytronic heated tweezers, and
what works perhaps best, is a metcal system with specialized tips. The
Metcal system has an automatic timer. Nothing else does.

I currently have a 485 and a heathkit that work for what we do, mainly chasing an injected Hz signal through a tube amp circuit looking for where the problem is. It is indeed allot of fun and more revealing than using a probe hooked up to a small battery powered amp, like I did for years. Both work, but the oscilloscope certainly is less "caveman".
Oscilloscopes generally are more sophisticated than not. The main
advantage of those dual time bases is to be able to examine a very
specific part of a waveform, after a delay, for instance. While this
is not as important in audio work, it is important in digital or TV
work.

The dual channels are very useful for comparing inputs to outputs,
with the subtract and invert function helping to isolate distortion.
For the rest of it, the more complicated scopes generally allow
(thinking 7000 series here) more measurements to be made under extreme
conditions. Plugins can measure voltage or frequency directly as
needed. But for the most part, oscilloscopes remain oscilloscopes.


Maybe in the years that I have left I will learn more about the real potential of the tools I have.....and more about transistors before they join tubes as a relic junkies hobby.
Tubes still have good uses. Even if everything goes to modules, for
now, transistors are inside those modules.

I often wonder how long repair shops will even be cost effective over replacement . It seems like nowadays, by the time a battery in a device no longer takes a charge it is already a dinosaur.?
While this may be accurate for consumer "bleeding edge" technology,
say the latest cell phone, I am using (as are you) oscilloscopes using
transistors (or perhaps tubes) that are almost 40 years old. There's
reasons we still do. Cost, capability, repairability, at least.
That's one good reason why I have two 7904 parts donor units to keep
my 7904 happy. Someone had gotten to them before, removing things, so
while I might be able to get one working out of those, I'll just stick
to having them be parts units.

Different technology, different design goals. Tektronix equipment
(and HP) were intended to keep on running, and were frequently
overbuilt (as they understood it, see the discussion on capacitors
elsewhere).

Harvey


Russ



Re: CRT to fit 2215

 

On Sat, Jun 30, 2018 at 10:46 am, lop pol wrote:


I'm on the prowl for a CRT to fit a 2215. I picked up two 2215's one had a
broken CRT the tube was filled with glass (makes a pretty sound) the other has
a very dim CRT. I was able to make a pretty nice cosmetically looking scope
from the two. I'm having an issue deciding what to do. I have a mint 468 and a
468 that works but is not so pretty I swiped the TDP pot from it for my nice
468 but that is all its missing. I read that I can use a 468 CRT in the 2215
BUT I hate to take a working scope and turn it into a non working scope by
swiping the CRT cutting the PDA lead, sounds like butchery. I would like to
have an intact parts scope for my nice 468,if that makes any sense. So... If
anyone has a nonworking parts scope with a CRT that will fit the 2215 let me
know. Thanks guys :)
Found a 154-0861-00 on the evil auction site. $38 with free shipping. Its in Colorado so it shouldn't have to bounce around from the east coast to me in Arizona. I'll have to chop the PDA to fit the little spade connector on the 2215. Not having to butcher anything makes me very happy. I hope they pack it right.


Re: TDS5xx pimpery

 

For me DPO is for a limited purpose, but having the privilege of playing
around with the keysight scope or you could turn it on or off I could see
many other uses.

My application is Teletype, where data is converted from parallel to serial
mechanically. One has to adjust mechanical parts to place the equivalent of
the clock to the center of the varying change from 1 to 0.

Having a DPO made it a dream.

On Sat, Jun 30, 2018, 8:27 PM Tam Hanna <tamhan@...> wrote:

Sir Trethan,

TL'DR: Tam uses DPO to make measurement on process computers. Customers
love look of DPO diagram.

I fully understand the issues you raise re DPO, especially in that
Information is discarded during the fart-out process. This, however, is not
always a problem.

As a process computer jockey, the situation often calls for getting a
"bigger picture of system response" over some kind of characteristic pulse.
In that case, DPO provides a VERY convinient way to get an overview of
things, especially in the color graded variant. Of course, the noise
problems are imminent and annoying, especially if your lab is full of LED
lighting which is known to be a toilet of EMI. I could provide some pics
showing this, but don't know how to post them from my BB.

Secondarily, especially non-technical customers love the look of DPO
diagrams. This can be a real sales getter.

P.s Mandatory DPO would kill a scope for me. DPO is a feature you use
SOMETIMES - my main runner is my LeCroy, which doesn't have the feature.


---
With best regards
Tam HANNA (emailing on a BlackBerry PRIV)

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Re: TDS5xx pimpery

 

Sir Trethan,

TL'DR: Tam uses DPO to make measurement on process computers. Customers love look of DPO diagram.

I fully understand the issues you raise re DPO, especially in that Information is discarded during the fart-out process. This, however, is not always a problem.

As a process computer jockey, the situation often calls for getting a "bigger picture of system response" over some kind of characteristic pulse. In that case, DPO provides a VERY convinient way to get an overview of things, especially in the color graded variant. Of course, the noise problems are imminent and annoying, especially if your lab is full of LED lighting which is known to be a toilet of EMI. I could provide some pics showing this, but don't know how to post them from my BB.

Secondarily, especially non-technical customers love the look of DPO diagrams. This can be a real sales getter.

P.s Mandatory DPO would kill a scope for me. DPO is a feature you use SOMETIMES - my main runner is my LeCroy, which doesn't have the feature.


---
With best regards
Tam HANNA (emailing on a BlackBerry PRIV)

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