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Re: TM 504 came today DC 504 not counting
Looks like a crystal socket to the right of the variable capacitor. Maybe a 1 MHz reference crystal?
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From: "lop pol via Groups.Io" <the_infinite_penguin@...> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2018 2:54 PM Subject: Re: [TekScopes] TM 504 came today DC 504 not counting I'm thinking there should be an oscillator here? /g/TekScopes/photo/37195/9?p=Name,,,20,1,0,0 |
Re: Back feet for 335 scope
Lee, I received the new feet late today and they look very nice.
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I should probably send you the pictures off list so please let me know where to send them. Many thanks, Bert On 3/1/2018 7:05 PM, Lee Houde wrote:
Jeff, the foot is packaged up in a USPS Small Flat Rate box. Hopefully I will remember to mail it tomorrow and you will likely have it Monday. You should have received an email from the USPS with the tracking number; if not yet then you should when they have the package. Just remember to save my shipping label for the return address. |
DSA 602 repair
I have 2 DSA601/602's that used to work. One still works but with problems. This is probably power supply problems but I thought I'd collect a few other possibilities before I dig in. Someone may have seen this before.The 2 pictures display the problem with the vertical part of the trace. Signal source is the Tek pocket generator.
/g/TekScopes/album?id=41301 |
Re: TM 504 came today DC 504 not counting
I'm thinking there should be an oscillator here? /g/TekScopes/photo/37195/9?p=Name,,,20,1,0,0
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Re: The vintageTEK Museum needs your help
I had a look for any old microfiche but did not find any. My Epsom V700 scanner
came with a number of film carriers of various sizes. One looked like it could hold 2 microfiche but it was just a little too small for the 105 x 148 mm size of a microfiche. But the carrier is nothing special, it just serves to hold the film flat and away from the glass. I could make something that would work out of cardboard. I will see if I can pickup some microfiche at flea markets of junk shops. I searched online and a lot of people have scanned microfiche with a bed scanner. Some with better results than others. One person got good results with a 3200 DPI scanner so my 4800 DPI unit should do better. Does anyone want to send me some example microfiche that they don't care about? Pete. |
Re: The vintageTEK Museum needs your help
It seems that the same method can be used that transfers 8mm et al movies to digital could be used. In the case of movies a projector is modified; the lamp is replaced by an LED and a camera (USB in the ones I've seen) is placed where the lens would go (or the lens is still in place - been a while). In the case of fiche cards, put a camera on the lens of the reader and replace the lamp with an LED. You could use steppers to move the platten around.
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Vince. On 03/29/2018 09:16 AM, Leslie Austin wrote:
I have a few hundred microfiche, Grundig and NordMende service manuals, --
Michigan VHF Corp. |
Re: The vintageTEK Museum needs your help
VueScan (www.hamrick.com) works with Linux, Windows and Mac OS X.
No affiliation. Just a very happy customer. On 2018-Mar-29 9:16 AM, Leslie Austin wrote: I have a few hundred microfiche, Grundig and NordMende service manuals, some Ducati parts manuals, plus a few Ford ones. I have had various full size flatbed scanners complete with transparency adaptors, but so far attempts at scanning fiche have been unsuccessful. I have considered setting up a digital camera to take photos of the screen? of my fiche reader, but not done so. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. |
Re: THS710 Repair and (future) upgrade to THS720P
Hi,
I found lots of documentation (not everything..) here: The schematics (bottom sketchy link) show the attenuator as one single square, so no details on the relais or amplifier, but in the description of the circuit I found some info on the three relays. On page 4 of this document: Here in Spain Semana Santa (week before Easter) is a big thing, so postal services are down to 0% this week, so a lot of catching up to next week. Anyway, as soon as the parts are here I will update this thread. Un saludo, Leo |
Re: THS710 Repair and (future) upgrade to THS720P
Very interesting project. This model is my favorite for field use. I have not tried to do any repairs as I don¡¯t know of any board schematics. But have had good luck doing calibration. I have multiple models 710A,720A,730A and 720P. My field one most used is the 720A. Thanks for sharing your diagnostic and repair tasks. I have purchased cabinet repair parts in the past but not sure if Tek has anything available anymore. I have replaced the screen with some spare clear 2400 series display screen. It is a little smaller than original which is Lexan but makes for a nice clear viewing.
I don¡¯t use the probes originally provided as they are hard to get on and off the BNC and the HV P5102 are even harder to install and then remove. Craig |
Re: The vintageTEK Museum needs your help
Brad Thompson
On 3/29/2018 1:35 AM, Dave Casey wrote:
Sounds interesting. Link?Hello-- I'll second Merchison's enthusiastic comments-- this application (VueScan) is one of the best software purchases I've ever made! 73-- Brad AA1IP |
Re: P6046 Probe question
Thank you @DavidH. That answers my most important nagging question and
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essentially concludes this inquiry. Thanks to everyone who helped. On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 10:23 AM, David Hess <davidwhess@...> wrote:
The common mode input range of the P6046 is only 5 volts which becomes |
Re: The vintageTEK Museum needs your help
If that is a reply related to ykochcal, yes
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and if it could be determined to work in some useful to help scan the microfiche maybe if you would be willing to donate and everyone could help get it there, having two would make the effort to get them working worth it? John -----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Anthony via Groups.Io Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 11:03 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [TekScopes] The vintageTEK Museum needs your help Wow, I have that exact same scanner! I thought it was just dead, just haven't gotten around to gutting it yet. Do you think I should try and use it? |
Re: P6046 Probe question
The common mode input range of the P6046 is only 5 volts which becomes
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50 volts when the x10 attenuator head is used. This is typical of other high bandwidth low voltage active probes. High voltage differential probes typically allow 240 volt AC line side measurements so they support a common mode input voltage of at least 400 volts and usually several times that. On Thu, 29 Mar 2018 09:44:37 -0400, you wrote:
Thanks David. This is very educational. What range do you classify as low |
Re: The vintageTEK Museum needs your help
On 2018-03-29 1:49 AM, TomC wrote:
It's Vuescan by Ed Hamrick:For completeness, there are a couple of other things I discovered setting up my Fujitsu fi-4530C ADF scanner (Fujitsu makes high quality, fast and compact ADF units that are often inexpensive on ebay): * You may be able to install a 32 bit WinXP driver under 32 bit Win 7: - this trick can't work on 64 bit Windows. * A very effective way to use a scanner that has a 32 bit driver only is VirtualBox. Enable the USB passthrough for the scanner device in VirtualBox' guest settings. In this way I can run a Windows XP guest on OS X and scan from any modern Mac, even though only a 32 bit Windows driver is available. To do this, I use NAPS2 (and PaperScan for oversize schematics). The Windows XP image is no longer available on the modern.ie site but should be obtainable, uh, informally. Just a couple of things to try if reviving a scanner with limited driver options. --Toby Tom |
Re: The vintageTEK Museum needs your help
A commercial copying operation should be able to copy these rapidly and cheaply
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Robin On 29 Mar 2018, at 13:56, Chuck Harris <cfharris@...> wrote: |
Re: P6046 Probe question
Thanks David. This is very educational. What range do you classify as low
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voltage? On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 9:38 AM, David Hess <davidwhess@...> wrote:
The P6046 is a low voltage differential probe and not intended for or |
THS710 Repair and (future) upgrade to THS720P
Hi all,
My new project is the repair of a THS710 I bought broken at a Dutch secondhand website. So far I found three problems: The screen has a 1/2" black bar at the bottom of the screen and it is quite dim. After removing the screen from the unit and opening the screen by undoing the small metal clips I found some cracks in the glass of the screen where the connections are. So I know it has to be replaced when the time comes. Since the screen is the most expensive part of the scope, I will wait ordering it until I managed to fix the other 2 problems. The second problem is the Channel-1 attenuator. When I connect a test signal to both channels, the Channel-2 does respond properly to the input sensitivity setting, but Channel-1 however, seems to skip some settings. After taking the board from the scope and removing both metal covers from the input ceramics I found the following: There are 3 relays per attenuator, the first one is the AC/DC selector, the second one is a 10x attenuator, and the third one is a 100x attenuator. These two, in combination with a change of the amplifier gain, provide the 1-2-5 etc. attenuation of the input. The relays used are the type who are Bi-Stable, double coil latch type, so they have two coils to change the position from 'Set' to "Reset', they are only energized for a short period to change the position of the relay, this to safe energy from the batteries. A datasheet can be found here: As it turned out, the second relay of Channel-1 was stuck in one position. (contacts burned together ??) I removed the relay from the ceramic (again I used a bit of QuikChip) to avoid damage to the ceramic. A test of the relay free from the scope showed that this was the case, both coils still OK (143 Ohm) , but the relay stuck in one position. I ordered these: Third problem: the battery is dead. Not so weird for NiCad cells from 1996. I found the scope only has a trickle charger circuit inside, so I found it more-or-less safe to change to NiMh replacements. I do not have the external charger. So for now I ordered the replacement relays and the battery cells. Mouser no longer stock the original brand relays, but there are several brands that make the same voltage, layout, size and contact type relays, I ordered them from the Zettler brand. but also Panasonic does make them. After I manage to fix these two problems I will order the screen. On AliExpress they are quite expensive, but on eBay the prices are more reasonable. (though not cheap!) Some pictures about the progress are here: /g/TekScopes/album?id=41029 To be continued, un saludo, Leo |
Re: P6046 Probe question
The P6046 is a low voltage differential probe and not intended for or
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really suitable orapplications where isolation is required. Essentially it is a high voltage differential probe with the matched high voltage input attenuators absent. Shorting one side and using it as a single ended probe completely defeats what isolation that it does provide; it just becomes a low voltage active probe when used like this. The schematic from Bob Pease that I linked shows how to make one of these. 100 MHz for an active probe may not seem fast but these are used where input inpedance must be as large as possible. Where the P6046 is useful is making low voltage measurements where the oscilloscope and DUT (device under test) share a ground but the measurement itself either needs to remove ground noise or is a differential signal. On Tue, 27 Mar 2018 16:26:37 -0700, you wrote:
Thank you everybody for the feedback so far. Sorry I have not responded sooner. Just to be clear, my primary interest is in the isolation characteristic of the differential probe as a safety precaution. I already do a lot of things for lab safety... I have an isolation transformer and a current limiter that I typically plug into. But, I also watched how Dave on the EEV blog has recommended differential probes at the end of his video () on how not to blow up your oscilloscope. I'm not desperate for one. Between my current lab set up and my best practices, I think I've got things pretty well covered. But, I occasionally see the entire P6046 kit come up for sale and was wondering if it's worthwhile for its isolation capabilities and if it's easily adapted into a regular (CRO?) probe. |
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