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Re: PYRAMID CALIBRATOR AND TESTER FOR TEKTRONIX OSCILLOSCOPES
Well since the commercial item, very pretty, is fairly expensive, maybe $25 plus postage would be about right.
Bob
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--- On Mon, 2/11/13, Richard Solomon wrote: From: Richard Solomon <dickw1ksz@...> Subject: Re: [TekScopes] PYRAMID CALIBRATOR AND TESTER FOR TEKTRONIX OSCILLOSCOPES To: TekScopes@... Date: Monday, February 11, 2013, 4:12 PM
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$1 each and you ship !!!!
Seriously though, put a price on them and let folks decide if it's OK or too much.
73, Dick, W1KSZ
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 4:35 PM, Bob Albert <bob91343@...> wrote:
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I have several of those Tek evaluation boards.? Put in a 9V battery and you are set to go.? Manual available on line.? Make offer.
Bob
--- On Mon, 2/11/13, Dave Daniel <kc0wjn@...> wrote:
From: Dave Daniel <kc0wjn@...>
Subject: Re: [TekScopes] PYRAMID CALIBRATOR AND TESTER FOR TEKTRONIX OSCILLOSCOPES To: TekScopes@... Date: Monday, February 11, 2013, 3:24 PM
?
Got it. I found the thread. See the TekScopes thread entitled "Scope
Tester on Ebay" (around 12/22). Reed Dickinson sent an email owning
up to being the designer and seller of these.
Cheers,
Dave
On 2/11/2013 2:36 PM, Pa4tim wrote:
?
Nice build cabinet, could be a handy tool. But strange
he uses 75 Ohm bnc connectors for a 50 Ohm output. ?Also
rather expensive
For that price you can make a very nice one yourself.?
Just a uProcessor to generate some squares, or maybe a
Xtal and something like a 4060, for higher frequency and
trigger test you add the cute little Jim williams pulser.
Williams also has a schematic of a very simple timemark
generator ( i do not the app note from the top of my head)
a TL431 or LT1027, a good opamp and some 1% resistors
and a switch to make some accurate voltages ( a scope is 2
to 3% so this will be close enough)?
It does not matter if frequency is not in all exact
steps. For a test its OK to see if the ranges still work.
I think for real calibrations this is will not be enough ,
it only goes up to 1uS/div and for buy-checks it can do
more than needed.?
If I needed one I would use this as a base :?
the Tek evaluation board we reverse engineered around 2 or 3
years ago here on the group.
And add this :?
if you want use a switch and resistors to make fixed
frequencies. 500 ps Tr and 16-160 MHz in 3 ranges so if
you use 5 resistors and two switches you have 15
frequencys.
Total cost maybe 10 dollar in parts, 10 bucks for a
nice cabinet so you can spend 130 dollar for another scope
;-)
Fred PA4TIM
Op 11 feb. 2013 om 21:54 heeft Dave Daniel <>
het volgende geschreven:
?
This instrument was specifically discussed a
while back. I'm trying to locate the emails I
have; I can't recall whether it was in open forum
or a series of private exchanges. The person who
is selling these wanted something that he could
carry around to Hamfests and other places and use
to quickly evaluate 'scopes before he bought them.
It looks like a very nice instrument to have, IMO.
Dave
On 2/11/2013 1:47 PM,
ukchastuck wrote:
?
Anyone ever tried one of these:
to test and calibrate Tek oscilloscopes? The
ebay description of the Pyramid Generator
implies it can be used to reliabily set
vertical amplitude calibration, horizontal
time calibration and triggering capabilities.
Seems you get a lot for your money if it
works.
Regards, Charles
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Re: PYRAMID CALIBRATOR AND TESTER FOR TEKTRONIX OSCILLOSCOPES
$1 each and you ship !!!!
Seriously though, put a price on them and let folks decide if it's OK or too much.
73, Dick, W1KSZ
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On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 4:35 PM, Bob Albert <bob91343@...> wrote:
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I have several of those Tek evaluation boards.? Put in a 9V battery and you are set to go.? Manual available on line.? Make offer.
Bob
--- On Mon, 2/11/13, Dave Daniel <kc0wjn@...> wrote:
From: Dave Daniel <kc0wjn@...>
Subject: Re: [TekScopes] PYRAMID CALIBRATOR AND TESTER FOR TEKTRONIX OSCILLOSCOPES To: TekScopes@... Date: Monday, February 11, 2013, 3:24 PM
?
Got it. I found the thread. See the TekScopes thread entitled "Scope
Tester on Ebay" (around 12/22). Reed Dickinson sent an email owning
up to being the designer and seller of these.
Cheers,
Dave
On 2/11/2013 2:36 PM, Pa4tim wrote:
?
Nice build cabinet, could be a handy tool. But strange
he uses 75 Ohm bnc connectors for a 50 Ohm output. ?Also
rather expensive
For that price you can make a very nice one yourself.?
Just a uProcessor to generate some squares, or maybe a
Xtal and something like a 4060, for higher frequency and
trigger test you add the cute little Jim williams pulser.
Williams also has a schematic of a very simple timemark
generator ( i do not the app note from the top of my head)
a TL431 or LT1027, a good opamp and some 1% resistors
and a switch to make some accurate voltages ( a scope is 2
to 3% so this will be close enough)?
It does not matter if frequency is not in all exact
steps. For a test its OK to see if the ranges still work.
I think for real calibrations this is will not be enough ,
it only goes up to 1uS/div and for buy-checks it can do
more than needed.?
If I needed one I would use this as a base :?
the Tek evaluation board we reverse engineered around 2 or 3
years ago here on the group.
And add this :?
if you want use a switch and resistors to make fixed
frequencies. 500 ps Tr and 16-160 MHz in 3 ranges so if
you use 5 resistors and two switches you have 15
frequencys.
Total cost maybe 10 dollar in parts, 10 bucks for a
nice cabinet so you can spend 130 dollar for another scope
;-)
Fred PA4TIM
Op 11 feb. 2013 om 21:54 heeft Dave Daniel <>
het volgende geschreven:
?
This instrument was specifically discussed a
while back. I'm trying to locate the emails I
have; I can't recall whether it was in open forum
or a series of private exchanges. The person who
is selling these wanted something that he could
carry around to Hamfests and other places and use
to quickly evaluate 'scopes before he bought them.
It looks like a very nice instrument to have, IMO.
Dave
On 2/11/2013 1:47 PM,
ukchastuck wrote:
?
Anyone ever tried one of these:
to test and calibrate Tek oscilloscopes? The
ebay description of the Pyramid Generator
implies it can be used to reliabily set
vertical amplitude calibration, horizontal
time calibration and triggering capabilities.
Seems you get a lot for your money if it
works.
Regards, Charles
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Hi,Ray: you gotta delete the comma after .org .Must have a space there! good luck, Al d.
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Yep; looks like a problem at the site.
By the way, I'm planning on using KiCad for a class I'm teaching next week; I've tested it over the past couple of weeks and am quite happy.
I'll be happy to share my experiences and observations as my class progresses, if there is interest.
Michael
On 01/13/2013 10:42 AM, Ray wrote:
When I try to call up , all I get is a "System Error". Is anyone else having a similar problem?
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Re: PYRAMID CALIBRATOR AND TESTER FOR TEKTRONIX OSCILLOSCOPES
I have several of those Tek evaluation boards.? Put in a 9V battery and you are set to go.? Manual available on line.? Make offer.
Bob
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--- On Mon, 2/11/13, Dave Daniel wrote: From: Dave Daniel Subject: Re: [TekScopes] PYRAMID CALIBRATOR AND TESTER FOR TEKTRONIX OSCILLOSCOPES To: TekScopes@... Date: Monday, February 11, 2013, 3:24 PM
?
Got it. I found the thread. See the TekScopes thread entitled "Scope
Tester on Ebay" (around 12/22). Reed Dickinson sent an email owning
up to being the designer and seller of these.
Cheers,
Dave
On 2/11/2013 2:36 PM, Pa4tim wrote:
?
Nice build cabinet, could be a handy tool. But strange
he uses 75 Ohm bnc connectors for a 50 Ohm output. ?Also
rather expensive
For that price you can make a very nice one yourself.?
Just a uProcessor to generate some squares, or maybe a
Xtal and something like a 4060, for higher frequency and
trigger test you add the cute little Jim williams pulser.
Williams also has a schematic of a very simple timemark
generator ( i do not the app note from the top of my head)
a TL431 or LT1027, a good opamp and some 1% resistors
and a switch to make some accurate voltages ( a scope is 2
to 3% so this will be close enough)?
It does not matter if frequency is not in all exact
steps. For a test its OK to see if the ranges still work.
I think for real calibrations this is will not be enough ,
it only goes up to 1uS/div and for buy-checks it can do
more than needed.?
If I needed one I would use this as a base :?
the Tek evaluation board we reverse engineered around 2 or 3
years ago here on the group.
And add this :?
if you want use a switch and resistors to make fixed
frequencies. 500 ps Tr and 16-160 MHz in 3 ranges so if
you use 5 resistors and two switches you have 15
frequencys.
Total cost maybe 10 dollar in parts, 10 bucks for a
nice cabinet so you can spend 130 dollar for another scope
;-)
Fred PA4TIM
Op 11 feb. 2013 om 21:54 heeft Dave Daniel < kc0wjn@...>
het volgende geschreven:
?
This instrument was specifically discussed a
while back. I'm trying to locate the emails I
have; I can't recall whether it was in open forum
or a series of private exchanges. The person who
is selling these wanted something that he could
carry around to Hamfests and other places and use
to quickly evaluate 'scopes before he bought them.
It looks like a very nice instrument to have, IMO.
Dave
On 2/11/2013 1:47 PM,
ukchastuck wrote:
?
Anyone ever tried one of these:
to test and calibrate Tek oscilloscopes? The
ebay description of the Pyramid Generator
implies it can be used to reliabily set
vertical amplitude calibration, horizontal
time calibration and triggering capabilities.
Seems you get a lot for your money if it
works.
Regards, Charles
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Re: PYRAMID CALIBRATOR AND TESTER FOR TEKTRONIX OSCILLOSCOPES
Got it. I found the thread. See the TekScopes thread entitled "Scope
Tester on Ebay" (around 12/22). Reed Dickinson sent an email owning
up to being the designer and seller of these.
Cheers,
Dave
On 2/11/2013 2:36 PM, Pa4tim wrote:
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?
Nice build cabinet, could be a handy tool. But strange
he uses 75 Ohm bnc connectors for a 50 Ohm output. ?Also
rather expensive
For that price you can make a very nice one yourself.?
Just a uProcessor to generate some squares, or maybe a
Xtal and something like a 4060, for higher frequency and
trigger test you add the cute little Jim williams pulser.
Williams also has a schematic of a very simple timemark
generator ( i do not the app note from the top of my head)
a TL431 or LT1027, a good opamp and some 1% resistors
and a switch to make some accurate voltages ( a scope is 2
to 3% so this will be close enough)?
It does not matter if frequency is not in all exact
steps. For a test its OK to see if the ranges still work.
I think for real calibrations this is will not be enough ,
it only goes up to 1uS/div and for buy-checks it can do
more than needed.?
If I needed one I would use this as a base :?
the Tek evaluation board we reverse engineered around 2 or 3
years ago here on the group.
And add this :?
if you want use a switch and resistors to make fixed
frequencies. 500 ps Tr and 16-160 MHz in 3 ranges so if
you use 5 resistors and two switches you have 15
frequencys.
Total cost maybe 10 dollar in parts, 10 bucks for a
nice cabinet so you can spend 130 dollar for another scope
;-)
Fred PA4TIM
Op 11 feb. 2013 om 21:54 heeft Dave Daniel < kc0wjn@...>
het volgende geschreven:
?
This instrument was specifically discussed a
while back. I'm trying to locate the emails I
have; I can't recall whether it was in open forum
or a series of private exchanges. The person who
is selling these wanted something that he could
carry around to Hamfests and other places and use
to quickly evaluate 'scopes before he bought them.
It looks like a very nice instrument to have, IMO.
Dave
On 2/11/2013 1:47 PM,
ukchastuck wrote:
?
Anyone ever tried one of these:
to test and calibrate Tek oscilloscopes? The
ebay description of the Pyramid Generator
implies it can be used to reliabily set
vertical amplitude calibration, horizontal
time calibration and triggering capabilities.
Seems you get a lot for your money if it
works.
Regards, Charles
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Re: 7L14 - no 1st LO output
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 1:00 PM, Christopher Hilton-Johnson <chj@...> wrote: Raymond The good news is that replacing the Motorola part with the Tek specified item produces a cure & all is good again. Probably not relevant but the Motorola part was aluminium, and featherweight, the original part is steel and of substance. I think the problem was junction heat related, in that there was a direct relationship between length of 'off' time, in days, and 'on' time in minutes, with a minimum of 1 day 'off' to get any 'on' time at all. I don't think there's a significant thermal performance difference between steel and aluminum TO3s.
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Re: TM5006 Opt. 02, SG5010, AA5001 + Parts Unit, CD, Manual, Road Case, others later
Signal Generator, Distortion Analyzer, and all have been sold. Thanks
The SW503 is also gone. Thanks again.
SC503. Up for grabs. Sorry for such crummy pics.
Oops: Item number --> 281064095757
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Re: TM5006 Opt. 02, SG5010, AA5001 + Parts Unit, CD, Manual, Road Case, others later
Signal Generator, Distortion Analyzer, and all have been sold. Thanks
The SW503 is also gone. Thanks again.
SC503. Up for grabs. Sorry for such crummy pics.
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Re: PYRAMID CALIBRATOR AND TESTER FOR TEKTRONIX OSCILLOSCOPES
Nice build cabinet, could be a handy tool. But strange he uses 75 Ohm bnc connectors for a 50 Ohm output. ?Also rather expensive
For that price you can make a very nice one yourself.?
Just a uProcessor to generate some squares, or maybe a Xtal and something like a 4060, for higher frequency and trigger test you add the cute little Jim williams pulser. Williams also has a schematic of a very simple timemark generator ( i do not the app note from the top of my head)
a TL431 or LT1027, a good opamp and some 1% resistors and a switch to make some accurate voltages ( a scope is 2 to 3% so this will be close enough)? It does not matter if frequency is not in all exact steps. For a test its OK to see if the ranges still work. I think for real calibrations this is will not be enough , it only goes up to 1uS/div and for buy-checks it can do more than needed.?
If I needed one I would use this as a base :? the Tek evaluation board we reverse engineered around 2 or 3 years ago here on the group. And add this :? if you want use a switch and resistors to make fixed frequencies. 500 ps Tr and 16-160 MHz in 3 ranges so if you use 5 resistors and two switches you have 15 frequencys. Total cost maybe 10 dollar in parts, 10 bucks for a nice cabinet so you can spend 130 dollar for another scope ;-)
Fred PA4TIM
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Op 11 feb. 2013 om 21:54 heeft Dave Daniel < kc0wjn@...> het volgende geschreven:
?
This instrument was specifically discussed a while back. I'm trying
to locate the emails I have; I can't recall whether it was in open
forum or a series of private exchanges. The person who is selling
these wanted something that he could carry around to Hamfests and
other places and use to quickly evaluate 'scopes before he bought
them. It looks like a very nice instrument to have, IMO.
Dave
On 2/11/2013 1:47 PM, ukchastuck wrote:
?
Anyone ever tried one of these:
to test and calibrate Tek oscilloscopes? The ebay
description of the Pyramid Generator implies it can be
used to reliabily set vertical amplitude calibration,
horizontal time calibration and triggering capabilities.
Seems you get a lot for your money if it works.
Regards, Charles
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Re: Sources for shipping cartons for vintage Tek scopes?
Absolutely a fire hazard.
But you should ask your insurance company first.
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Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 3:51
PM
Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Re: Sources for
shipping cartons for vintage Tek scopes?
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On 02/11/2013 11:16 AM, Ron Simmons
wrote:
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I have shipped over
60 ….400 series scopes all around the country. IMO the best packaging is
bubble wrap. Its expensive but does the job really well.
In my career in
computer peripheral sales I watched many a customer do what their packaging
engineers ?called the “shake and bake” ?( temperature and shock
and vibration testing) on products that they were about to purchase (
thousands of them) and ship globally. As to packaging, they said the
?best was “foam in place” where the unit sealed in plastic ?is
immersed in a liquid that turns into form fitting hardened foam.? The
worst protection the packaging engineers said was ?“peanuts” because
they tended to shift in the box resulting in too much peanuts in one place
and none in another.
As to bubble wrap,
they said it was great stuff but far too expensive to use in high volume
shipments. For my purposes, a good sturdy box and a scope wrapped with
several layers of bubble wrap always did the job spot on
?
Does
anyone know the maximum temperature for bubble wrap? My reason for asking
is that this stuff would seem to be ideal for attic insulation but never
seems to be used that way.... fire hazard??? This plus that nice
7K packing box I have stored in the attic. Bert
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This instrument was specifically discussed a while back. I'm trying
to locate the emails I have; I can't recall whether it was in open
forum or a series of private exchanges. The person who is selling
these wanted something that he could carry around to Hamfests and
other places and use to quickly evaluate 'scopes before he bought
them. It looks like a very nice instrument to have, IMO.
Dave
On 2/11/2013 1:47 PM, ukchastuck wrote:
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?
Anyone ever tried one of these:
to test and calibrate Tek oscilloscopes? The ebay
description of the Pyramid Generator implies it can be
used to reliabily set vertical amplitude calibration,
horizontal time calibration and triggering capabilities.
Seems you get a lot for your money if it works.
Regards, Charles
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Re: Sources for shipping cartons for vintage Tek scopes?
On 02/11/2013 11:16 AM, Ron Simmons
wrote:
?
I have shipped
over 60 ….400 series
scopes all around the country. IMO the best
packaging is bubble wrap. Its
expensive but does the job really well.
In my career
in computer peripheral sales
I watched many a customer do what their packaging
engineers ?called the “shake
and bake” ?( temperature and shock and vibration
testing) on products
that they were about to purchase ( thousands of
them) and ship globally. As to
packaging, they said the ?best was “foam in place”
where the unit
sealed in plastic ?is immersed in a liquid that
turns into form fitting
hardened foam.? The worst protection the packaging
engineers said was ?“peanuts”
because they tended to shift in the box resulting in
too much peanuts in one
place and none in another.
As to bubble
wrap, they said it was great
stuff but far too expensive to use in high volume
shipments. For my purposes, a
good sturdy box and a scope wrapped with several
layers of bubble wrap always
did the job spot on
?
Does anyone know the maximum temperature for bubble wrap?
My reason for asking is that this stuff would seem to be ideal for
attic insulation but never seems to be used that way.... fire
hazard???
This plus that nice 7K packing box I have stored in the attic.
Bert
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PYRAMID CALIBRATOR AND TESTER FOR TEKTRONIX OSCILLOSCOPES
Anyone ever tried one of these: to test and calibrate Tek oscilloscopes? The ebay description of the Pyramid Generator implies it can be used to reliabily set vertical amplitude calibration, horizontal time calibration and triggering capabilities. Seems you get a lot for your money if it works.
Regards, Charles
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Re: 7L14 - no 1st LO output
AFAIK, the specific heat capacity of aluminium is much larger than that of steel, but this seems somewhat extreme...
Glad your issue is resolved.
Raymond
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Thanks for all responses regards Chris HJ
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Re: 7L14 - no 1st LO output
Raymond
The good news is that replacing the Motorola part with the Tek
specified item produces a cure & all is good again.
?Probably not relevant but the Motorola part was
aluminium, and featherweight, the original part is steel and of
substance.?I think the problem was junction heat related, in that there was a
direct relationship between length of 'off' time, in days, and 'on' time in
minutes, with a minimum of 1 day 'off' to get any 'on' time at
all.
?
Thanks for all
responses
regards
Chris
HJ
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Re: 2465 with broken intensity on ebay
If the seller is prepared to open the scope's cover, you can try this: 1. Ask seller if take a close picture of the grid bias potentiometer to help give you an idea where the grid bias pot is set. Not really necessary but useful to have.?
2. Have him tweet the grid bias either direction ever??so slightly and adjust intensity after?each tweet. If intensity control is effective, then maybe CRT is ok and you can fix the scope.?
You need to realign grid bias pot later. Adjusting the bias shift?the operating point so that intensity control
Can affect the electron beam.?
Cslim
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On Monday, February 11, 2013, wrote:
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This is also the symptom for a G-K short in the crt. Be careful.
-ls-
"ledlensor" rfwebb@...> wrote:
> OK, thanks. So there is a possibility.
>
> Is there any simple test I could give to the seller which might differentiate between the two?
>
> Thanks
>
> --- In TekScopes@..., David wrote:
> >
> > The hybrids are known to fail but it could also be caused by a bad DC
> > restorer which would be easy and cheap to fix.
> >
> > On Mon, 11 Feb 2013 00:04:53 +0000, Richard Webb
> > wrote:
> >
> > >Hi,
> > >
> > >Just looking at a 2465 on ebay which has ejust come up. It seems like the
> > >intensity is stuck on full brightness.
> > >
> > >I'm just wondering whether this is likely to be an easy fix? I did some
> > >googling and found someone suggesting that a similar problem might be
> > >caused by a faulty hybrid.
> > >
> > >Thanks
> >
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
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Re: 7L14 - no 1st LO output
Chris, Your question was clear, both David DG and I didn't read it well.
This is one ref. to a Freescale (-Motorola) part with just a few specs:
Here you can see that the mil-designated Freescale part is considered at least in some way compatible with Tek's part and DST1010 (and some others).
I guess you've seen it already.
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--- In TekScopes@..., "Christopher Hilton-Johnson" wrote: Hi Guys Information please. I have a 7L14, where the 1st LO has just died. It seems the main YIG driver transistor, an NPN Darlington, has already been replaced The Tek part number is 151-0454-00, but this bears a Motorola number SJ6796 and a date code of 8018.
Despite searching all the usual places (net/databooks) I cannot find any reference to the Motorola part. Anyone got any information about it they are willing to share? thanks Chris HJ
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Re: 7L14 - no 1st LO output
>My
very difficult to read copy of the "Semiconductors Common Design Parts Catalog
1982 identifies this (bottom of page 6-20) as a DTS1010, High(er) voltage NPN in
TO-3 case. Specs are here:
>
>Could this be
correct?
>Raymond
Raymond
Absolutely correct - the original is a DTS1010, but again,
thanks for the pointer to the datasheet for that part.
My interest is in trying to get information about the part
actually installed as the YIG main coil driver in my (failed)
7L14.
I just want to know if it is supposed to be
better/different/was a factory installed replacement etc.
during the 7L14 lifetime (according to my Manual) this board
(YIG driver) went theough three iterations (suffix -01 through -03) yet mine is
a suffix -00, confusing or what?
Really my interest is in trying to get some data on this
Motorola part, to add perspective to this issue, but?I have a correct
replacement, which I will use & see what happens!
?
Chris HJ
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Re: 7L14 - no 1st LO output
Got some already?- but thanks for the
tip!
Really more about trying to find information about what
appears to be an installed?replacement
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Chris HJ
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