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Re: Aluminum panels wanted

 

to fill/close empty plugin front space

maybe i will find the tek part number again

got where, i got mine from ebay


Peter
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Hi,


What are blind panels? Where do you get them?


Jerry Massengale
jmassen418a@...

-----Original Message-----
From: Heinz-Peter Deutsch <hpdeutsch@...>
To: TekScopes <TekScopes@...>
Sent: Tue, Jan 24, 2012 1:06 pm
Subject: [TekScopes] Re: Aluminum panels wanted





mmh, the second time a text vanished ?

In my own (yahoo) return copy, the text was there.
After i tried to send the text again - gone ???
strange behavior ...
-------------------------------
Ok, here it come again:

i said, why you don't use empty (blind) panels


Peter



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Re: Aluminum panels wanted

Jerry Massengale
 

Hi,

What are blind panels? Where do you get them?

Jerry Massengale
jmassen418a@...



-----Original Message-----
From: Heinz-Peter Deutsch
To: TekScopes
Sent: Tue, Jan 24, 2012 1:06 pm
Subject: [TekScopes] Re: Aluminum panels wanted

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mmh, the second time a text vanished ?

In my own (yahoo) return copy, the text was there.
After i tried to send the text again? - gone ???
strange behavior ...
-------------------------------
Ok, here it come again:

i said, why you don't use empty (blind) panels


Peter



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Re: 155-0242-01: Hybrid decapsulated

 

I published two photos from the those 3 silicon chips inside. One driver, two similar power amps. Will try to get bigger magnification, localize the failure...

Cheers! CT1DGN

The LINK:

--- In TekScopes@..., Jerry Massengale <jmassen418a@...> wrote:


Jose,

Great pics. Thank you.

jerry






Jerry Massengale
jmassen418a@...




-----Original Message-----
From: viagioz <viagioz@...>
To: TekScopes <TekScopes@...>
Sent: Fri, Dec 16, 2011 9:08 am
Subject: [TekScopes] 155-0242-01: Hybrid X-Ray Photos




HI frinds,

I share with you the inside from TEK24xx Z Axis Hybrid:



At this level investigation everything seems to be OK inside (the 3 die attach, bounding...)

It is related with the subject "2465B no trace".

I try now to borrow an hybrid to be sure it is the source of the problem.

Then I will remove the ceramic attached underneath and I will share with you microscope pictures.

Nice weekend, maybe Merry Christmas! I will not get the new hybrid before next year, I guess!

73'

Jose
CT1DGN


Re: Back to soldering ceramic terminal strips

 

Nice work reclaiming those ceramic strips. What a simple solution. I imagine that it would be best to clean the ceramic very well prior to gluing.


Paging ArtekMedia -Update requests OFF LIST PLEASE

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If you emailed in the last two weeks and did not receive? a reply , please email me direct today.

DO NOT PLACE REQUESTS THROUGH TEKSCOPES !!!!! :-)

I will be chained to the computer all day today and tomorrow trying to get caught up

Dave
ARTEKMEDIA


On 1/25/2012 6:45 AM, Heinz-Peter Deutsch wrote:
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Dave,
did you received my mails, too ??
Or are they gone to nirwana .....

Peter
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Dave et all

We at Artekmedia alive and well...but buried in a host of issues.

I would suggest if you made a request in the last two weeks and have
received no reply that you resend ..Dave Casey in particualr I do not
see anything recent from you ..please resend

Sorry all for the inconvenience

Dave

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Re: Paging ArtekMedia

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Heinz

...please resend

Dave

On 1/25/2012 6:45 AM, Heinz-Peter Deutsch wrote:
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Dave,
did you received my mails, too ??
Or are they gone to nirwana .....

Peter
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Dave et all

We at Artekmedia alive and well...but buried in a host of issues.

I would suggest if you made a request in the last two weeks and have
received no reply that you resend ..Dave Casey in particualr I do not
see anything recent from you ..please resend

Sorry all for the inconvenience

Dave

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Manuals@...

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Welch,MN 55089


Re: Paging ArtekMedia

 

Dave,
did you received my mails, too ??
Or are they gone to nirwana .....

Peter
===========================================


Dave et all

We at Artekmedia alive and well...but buried in a host of issues.


I would suggest if you made a request in the last two weeks and have
received no reply that you resend ..Dave Casey in particualr I do not
see anything recent from you ..please resend

Sorry all for the inconvenience

Dave

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Empfehlen Sie GMX DSL Ihren Freunden und Bekannten und wir
belohnen Sie mit bis zu 50,- Euro!


Re: Paging ArtekMedia

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Dave et all

We at Artekmedia alive and well...but buried in a host of issues.

?Been flying back and forth to Florida twice a week trying to get my mother in-law placed in an assisted living facility ( Alzheimer's). I have a couple of consulting clients as well that I spend two days a week with here in MN ergo the need to fly back and forth .? I think I will likely be back in the office here in MN now for at least two weeks. To add insult to injury I appear to be having ISP problems as I am sporadically missing whole "blocks" of email. I got back yesterday and will start digging out today ..there seems to be about 700 emails to sort through so the volume is beyond anything I can reasonably sort through with a smart phone on road. :-P

I would suggest if you made a request in the last two weeks? and have received no reply that you resend ..Dave Casey in particualr I do not see anything recent from you ..please resend

Sorry all for the inconvenience

Dave




On 1/24/2012 11:55 PM, Dave Casey wrote:
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Speaking of Artek, has anyone heard from Dave lately? His last post was on the 7th. I'm trying to spend my money with him and as yet I've not heard back.
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Dave Casey

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Re: 7603 no trace

 

Quote: Back to the +50V supply: It's a little risky, but I'd suggest to remove Q876, monitor the +50V output with your DVM, and power-up the scope. ...

I agree.?

For the next step, I would simply pull connectors P900/P901, then bridge the sense feedback with the respective supply, and measure the supply rails again. This requires only five connections and P900/P901 are in close proximity, so the connections are easy.? This is a linear power supply, not a switched mode supply, so operation with no load does not harm anything.

I would also pull P971/P962.

Doing so disconnects the power supply from its loads and allows isolation of the trouble to a specific circuit / board by re-connecting one board after one.?

Just keep going, David - one step at a time. We will bring this beauty back to life.

Cheers,

Magnus


Re: Paging Artek Media

Don Lewis
 

me too.
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hope Dave is ok.
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-Don

From: Dave Casey To: TekScopes@...
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 11:55 PM
Subject: [TekScopes] Paging Artek Media

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Speaking of Artek, has anyone heard from Dave lately? His last post was on the 7th. I'm trying to spend my money with him and as yet I've not heard back.
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Dave Casey



Re: Back to soldering ceramic terminal strips

 

--- In TekScopes@..., "Stan & Patricia Griffiths" <w7ni@...> wrote:

I have pretty good results when I solder-suck the notches dry and use new
silver-bearing solder in them.



If you have some bad strips, I have quite a lot of new ones and ones I have
salvaged with a solder sucker. You can find them in my Parts Shop.







Stan



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From: TekScopes@... [mailto:TekScopes@...] On Behalf
Of phosphorphile
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 2:32 PM
To: TekScopes@...
Subject: [TekScopes] Re: Back to soldering ceramic terminal strips





Hi David,

As I'm still learning good technique for reworking ceramic terminal strips
I'm hyper-concerned about wrecking the scopes I work on. The one I'm
restoring now has been worked over quite a bit by a trouble-shooter who
lifted wires and components here, there, and everywhere chasing down
problems. My inclination is to, like with convetional terminals, wick out
the nasty old solder and make a new, shiny soldering job, the idea being to
restore the orignal beautiful work done by Tek. I'm finding that approach to
be ephemeral at best. So now I wick off only excess solder and then reflow
with a bit of the silver bearing stuff. I get mixed results, still too much
leaching of the silver plating in the strip notches. Someone said it's nigh
impossible to avoid that so I guess the terminals, bright an idea it was by
Tek, is really a one shot proposition.

Stan has Tek solder spools for sale on his website so now my solder hunt is
done.

Arden

--- In TekScopes@... <mailto:TekScopes%40yahoogroups.com> ,
David <davidwhess@> wrote:

I have a spool of the Radio Shack 62/36/2 that I bought years ago and
while it is thin, there is certainly enough to do a reasonable number
of connections if you do not overdo it. The thin size is because it
is intended for surface mount parts that use silver metalization.

The only real electronics store here in the St. Louis area
() has an old bin full of the Kester
62/36/2 solder tubes but their inventory management is not good enough
for them to be listed online. For the price, I think it was about the
same value as the Radio Shack silver solder. They are certainly less
expensive online even with shipping.

This seems reasonable although it is no clean flux instead of
activated rosin:


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Roll-/380118400075?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5880d27c4b>
&hash=item5880d27c4b

That 4% low temperature silver solder (not the lead free stuff) from
Parts Express would no doubt be better but sure is expensive. Better
to use the 2%, extra flux if necessary, and use a good lower
temperature soldering iron.

On Sun, 18 Dec 2011 01:14:32 -0000, "phosphorphile"
<gumbear@> wrote:

Well, gentlemen, you made me do it. I rose to the challenge and dropped
by the local RS. No 62/36/2 on its hook. The computer said they had
two in stock. Shoplifted, no doubt. But while looking over the
shoulder of the store clerk (yes, that's what they used to be called) I
asked what the specs were. 0.015 dia., came the reply. Worthless! Too
small for soldering ceramic terminal strip notches. You'd put half a
spool into one notch if you cleaned it out and refilled it. $3.00 a tie
point is a bit too much. Not much better, the stuff I got from MCM,
Kester made 0.020 dia. for about half what RS sells theirs for but no
bargain because I had to pay shippijng. So the hunt goes on for 0.031
or thereabouts, ....TekScopers shall not be forgot!


Confirmed. While Xmas shopping yesterday at the Sherman Oaks Mall in
LA I stopped in at the Radio shack and found two Radio Shack part #
65-035 for $6 each. I bought them both....
Hello.
Watch this:


Re: Power supply problem with Tek 2220

Tan Chor Ming
 

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Hi Tom,

Thank you for the detail of the problem which is similar to my tek 2220.

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I am still unable to nail down the problem.? I believe the scope is working normally, because when it fires up it works normally.?

My feeling is that it poorly designed thermally for 230V operation

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Do you have voltage measurement for tek 2235 on R907?

I am getting 0.198V (with the +5V to the storage board disconnected, effectively turning off the storage function).

This means that without the storage function connection, the current on +43V is slightly below 1A.?

I am not sure if this is a normal condition but it should be similar to the tek 2235.?

Under this condition, the scope could operate for quite a while without problem

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Once the +5V is connected to the storage board, voltage at R907 goes up to 2.3V~2.5V or about 1.15 to 1.25A on +43 and the power supply will shut down.

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Following done with little effect or improvement

- Change 3 filter caps (only those that are feels hot) – C960, C962, C964 (for -5V for 2220 only)

- Change NMOS P9070.? When changing P9070, I used a separate heatsink for P9070 and still such down happens which means it is unlikely to be caused by the thermal shutdown board.

- Shutdown is more likely cause by spurious overload in R907

- Change C907

- Change CR907 (two diode in parallel)

- Added C919 with 1000pf in parallel.? Lowered switching freq but still having a heated P9070 which shuts down.? Not sure what freq but it is definitely audible.

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Rgds,

Chor Ming

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From: TekScopes@... [mailto:TekScopes@...] On Behalf Of tom jobe
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 11:17 PM
To: TekScopes@...
Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Re: Power supply problem with Tek 2220

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Hi Tan,
This morning I remembered about an interesting 2235 repair that was done by
a very crafty person by the name of Irwin Zosa during 2007 and 2008.
Irwin lives in your part of the world in the Philippines where it is almost
as hot as in Singapore. His basic problem was the same as yours, the 2235
would shut itself down with a thermal problem.
There was not much interest in his 2235 problem on Tekscopes at that time,
so the email exchanges we had went off group as he worked his way through
the problem. Once he had the problem solved, he posted a nice summary of his
findings to the Tekscopes group.
Irwin's repair summary is in message number 36518 and it was posted on Jan
6, 2009.
He found a number of problems as he went along, but his final discovery
might amaze you.
It sure amazed me because I would have never found it!
tom jobe...
PS I will paste in Irwin's 2235 repair summary below to save you the trouble
of getting it from the Tekscopes Message archive.

Hello to all: Way back in the first quarter of 2007, I had this
problem of my 2235 shutting down after a few minutes from switching
it ON. After a lot of interaction from forum members I finally
nailed down the problem. Here is a brief summary of this process:
First, I checked all the voltages according to the service manual and
they were OK. I also checked the ESR of the capacitors and they read
good but the unit being about twenty years old or so, I decided to
replace the secondary caps (C960, C961, C962, C963, C968, C970) with
ultra-low ESR, 105-degree C Nichicons. I could not find 840uF units
so I used 1000uF. The problem still did not go away although the
length of time-to-shutdown increased. I also replaced the FET
switcher Q9070 (IRF710)with a higher rated device (IRF840). I then
replaced Q946 and Q947 with TIP41 units. At every change that I
made, slight improvements were observed. I also replaced R912 (357
Ohms)with a 390 Ohm part to increase the shutdown threshold of this
2235. Then I replaced the secondary rectifiers CR954, CR955 (MR814),
CR956, CR957 (MR812), CR960, CR961, CR962, CR963 (MR812). The
replacements that I used were the MUR160 ultra-fast rectifiers. All
of these were not done "shotgun" style and in the exact order as
described but rather, followed logical steps of checking one section
at a time. I even thought of thermal runaway because T944, T948, and
Q9070 would heat up so much (really hot!). I also noticed early on
that the frequency of the pre-regulator section (U930) was about
72KHz and in the service manual it is listed as about 60KHz. It
suddenly dawned on me to try to reduce the operating frequency of
this section so I replaced R919 and now it is running at 60KHz. The
excessive heat has gone and no more shutdown. I tried to run the
scope for about half a day and still no shutdown. This 2235 has all
of the power supply improvements already installed from the factory
(but why was the pre-regulator section running at 70KHz ?). I would
like to thank the forum members who gave their insights. Special
thanks goes to Tom Jobe, who stayed with me all the way in this
repair project. He took the time to take measurement readings for
me, gave his analyses, and even offered parts that I may need for
free. At some point I was considering another brand of oscilloscope
but I held on to this (even keeping it in storage for almost a year
because of this problem) because from my research, these TEK scopes,
during their time, were among the best. I think they still are.


Re: Aluminum panels wanted

 

I've had that happen too but it appears if you hit Reply.

Arden

mmh, the second time a text vanished ?

In my own (yahoo) return copy, the text was there.
After i tried to send the text again? - gone ???
strange behavior ...


Re: Paging Artek Media

John Miles
 

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He's around... I just got a couple of manuals from him a couple of days ago.?

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-- john

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From: TekScopes@... [mailto:TekScopes@...] On Behalf Of Dave Casey
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 9:56 PM
To: TekScopes@...
Subject: [TekScopes] Paging Artek Media

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Speaking of Artek, has anyone heard from Dave lately? His last post was on the 7th. I'm trying to spend my money with him and as yet I've not heard back.

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Dave Casey





Paging Artek Media

Dave Casey
 

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Speaking of Artek, has anyone heard from Dave lately? His last post was on the 7th. I'm trying to spend my money with him and as yet I've not heard back.
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Dave Casey


Re: AFG5101 questions...

Dave Casey
 

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The copy of the service manual I bought from Artek is great and includes schematics, but the parts list only covers the external power supply, so I can't determine what was spec'd for the battery on the A1 assembly (I don't think this is Artek's fault, rather I suspect that Tek left these pages out as this manual was put together around the time they started getting lazy). The schematic of the battery does show two internal diodes though. I think mine has the same issue, so I'd be interested to learn of the fix you implement to replace it.
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As to the LCD, I think there is a contrast setting in the menus, but other than that I am unaware of any remedies. Have you verified all your power supplies are in good shape? The LCD control and the low battery indicator both run on the 5V supply.
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Dave Casey
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----- Original Message -----
From: Nick
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 1:19 PM
Subject: [TekScopes] Re: AFG5101 questions...

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--- In TekScopes@..., "Nick" wrote:
> My AFG5101 has started saying "battery low" when powered on - is that an easy thing to change?

Ordered a service manual, however it looks like a Lithium module on one of the end boards - made by Renata and marked 3V and "125-1". I can't find a data sheet for this thing, but I think its actually an encapsulated CR2032 with a couple of 1N4148 diodes - Renata make a similar module called a "175-0", but the "-0" means no internal diodes - they don't make a "175-1" - the suffix "-1" indicates internal diodes - they make a "1000-1" but its too big, however I'm pretty sure its functionally identical, so I can use its layout - I'll check the existing module once I've de-soldered it...

I think its going to be easier to make a carrier with a coin cell holder for the 2032 and the two diodes - easier to change the cell in the future too...

> Also, the LCD contrast is very poor, as is the viewing angle - is there anything I can do about that?

Still hoping for an answer on this...

Nick


Re: Photos of a non-illuminated graticule; WAS 576 versus 577

 

Some of the new uv LEDs exhibit very little visible light and would be less likely to cause unwanted visible response (due to excitation wavelengths) on a camera. Of course, certain plastics used over a CRT face could also block this same uv.
I'm working with some 365 nm LEDs right now that could give one a "sun" tan! Of course, these newer-model ones are surface mount. I wonder if ceramic bars could be improvised for use as a heat-sinking mount?


Re: Nuvistors.

Don Black
 

That's what I was thinking; that they may have run the heaters off DC to prevent hum and it would be easier to supply 150mA heaters than 300mA in the tube era. Now it would be simple to use a three terminal regulator IC to provide 6.3 volts.

Don Black.

On 23-Jan-12 10:31 AM, David Wise wrote:
It's not hum - the mainframe supplies regulated +75 DC for
plugin heaters. It's Coarse Balance. The beautifully simple
circuit Tek used is only possible with 8393's.

Dave Wise

-----Original Message-----
From: TekScopes@...
[mailto:TekScopes@...] On Behalf Of Don Black
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 7:55 PM
To: TekScopes@...
Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Re: Nuvistors.

Perhaps it was just easier to provide a DC heater supply of 12
volts at
half the current of a 6 volt tube in a tubes scope for hum reduction.

Don Black.

On 19-Jan-12 10:30 PM, phosphorphile wrote:
Yes, it may be a 13 volt filament is easier to run at
slightly lower voltage because perhaps the voltage being twice
and the current being half of a 6 volt filament would make for
a more constant current with line variations. Probably the way
tungsten filaments work?
The 8393 was used in early 453's and later 503's, I know.
Mebbe other models too.
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Re: 7603 no trace

 

David,

More below:

Because I was unsure of where to take readings on the caps as they
appear to have four pins, I took scope ripple readings from P890
connector on the A10 rectifier board. I hope this was OK. With probe set
on X1 and AC setting, I measured a max ripple of about 0.5 Volts P/P on
P890-1/5/2/ P890-4 was quite flat, I couldn't hardly measure any ripple.
Your ripple measurements sound OK, so your filter caps are most-likely good. Just remember many of the supplies are not up to normal output voltages, so their output currents are lower than normal, and therefore, ripple on the filter caps will be lower than during normal operating conditions (good or bad caps). The outer pins are the - pins and the center-most pin is the + pin.

On pins 6 and 7 of the 130 volt section, I wasn't able to measure the
ripple on the 250uF cap because I couldn't get my scope's two channels
to be in sync.
I should have also said to use Chop mode. I think you must have been using Alt (alternate) mode. Also, I should have said that once the +50V supply is working, you can measure ripple on C806 via single-ended (referenced to ground) using one probe only, like the other caps. You'd want to be using a 10X probe, espescially if your using DC coupling.

I did manage to take some voltage readings from the 130
volt section though. Voltages on Q850, VR851, and Q852 were all minus
about 30volts instead of plus 50 volts.
That's probably OK, since the +50V supply is dead, and you're basically measuring the negative side of the bridge rectifier and cap (C806).

The proper fuse in this line has
been replaced at some time in the past with a different style in-line
type fuse holder and hooked up to the original fuse "prong type
holders", so it looks like there might have been a problem with this
section in the past. Do you think that these minus readings indicate
that the AC hasn't been rectified properly and that there might be a
problem with the diodes?

David.
Back to the +50V supply: It's a little risky, but I'd suggest to remove Q876, monitor the +50V output with your DVM, and power-up the scope. If you're lucky, the +50V supply will come up to normal. Q876 is the current sense differential amp. Its job is to cut back the output voltage if the current through R875 (1 ohm), and thus the +50V supply's output, gets too high. This could happen because of for example a shorted cap somewhere else in the scope. I'm thinking the "B" trasistor has a C-B short, but that's just a guess.

Maybe you want to get someone else's opinion before you do what's suggested above.

You could also remove and check both transistors in Q876 with a diode-check function on a DMM. The scope could remain off.

Also, it might would help if you could mark-up a hard copy of the schematic with all of your voltage readings so far, scan it in, and post it somewhere for us to see. I'd suggest to use a red pen (red for bad). Mainly just the +50V supply section is needed.

Jimmy


Tek W Plugin 100-3269, mod kit 040-0447-00

 

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Tek W Plugin 100-3269, mod kit 040-0447-00: ...improves overdrive recovery characteristics...
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Just?"found"?this?NIB mod kit dating from 1971, complete with pre-stuffed gold pcb, matched transistors?and other components, even silver solder and hookup wire -?sealed in compartments of a plastic bag.
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Later?W's incorporated this mod, so I think I'll preserve this kit?as is.
Let me know if anyone would like to see pictures.
Bernd Schroder
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In a message dated 1/24/2012 6:10:23 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, ataylor@... writes:

Jerry,

A scan would be much appreciated. Thanks for taking the time to do this!

Aaron

--- In TekScopes@..., "technite2001" wrote:
>
> Greetings to the group.
> I found a copy a later W manual with the FET mod. If there is a need I will scan and post it online. Its listed in the change section and is 13 pages (schematic and pictures).
> Let me know.
> Regards,
> Jerry
> W2JI