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Re: What's this Tek item?

Stan or Patricia Griffiths
 

Wow, I need to pay more attention to eBay! You got a REAL STEAL on this
stuff, and yes, I know what it is.

The Tek S-3260 is a very large computer controlled system for testing
integrated circuits. It is vintage about 1975 or so. Some of the options
for the S3260 included a 568 scope with 3S6 and 3T6 sampling plugins for
making some very fast risetime measurements on the IC under test. The
S3260 was capable of handling large scale ICs with up to 64 pins in its
largest configuration (they may have even made larger ones than that). Any
way, the 568/3T6/3S6 is only a two channel sampling system so how do you
look at 64 IC pins with only two channels? The answer is that you multiplex
the two channels to all 64 pins. How do you do that without losing all the
fast capability of the sampling system? The answer is that you locate the
sampling heads (S1's in this case) as physically close to the IC pins as you
can and dedicate one S1 to each IC pin and multiplex the S1's to the two 3S6
channels. The multiplexing is done in groups of up to four sampling heads
plugged into a 286 Sampling Head Multiplexer. If your system needs more
than four sampling heads multiplexed, you can multiplex up to four 286's
with one 288, for a total of up to 16 sampling heads. Still not enough
sampling heads? OK, you can slave up to three 287's to one 288, each one
loaded with four 286's, with each of those 286's loaded with up to four
sampling heads, for a grand total of 64 sampling heads multiplexed. All of
this is explained with pictures on page 251 of your 1973 Tektronix Catalog .
. .

The multiplexers (286's, 287's, and 288's) are not particularily valuable
today (except as maybe an addition to my collection!) since they are only
one component of a large S3260 system and you don't have the rest of it,
like the DEC PDP-11 computer, the Tek 1340 Interface Units, and the
necessary software to control it all. The S1's however, are the gold at the
end of this rainbow! The 1989 Tek Catalog lists S1 Sampling Heads available
from Tek new at a cost of $1695 each! (And you got 23 of them for $2.25 . .
. ! ! not to mention the 286's, etc.) Anyway, those same sampling heads
are useful in the 3S2, 7S11, 7S12 and a few other sampling plugins. So, if
those sampling heads actually work, you should be able to get at least 1000
times your money back . . . but you would really need to check them out
first to expect that kind of return. You say you don't know how to check
them out? OK, so I will give you ten times your money right now and I'll
check them out . . . how about that! 8-)

I took a look at the picture of the stuff you bought and I actually counted
55 sampling heads in the picture. You could always complain to the seller
that you thought you were getting everything shown in the picture and you
expect to recieve all 55 sampling heads . . . ! ! (Then you should be able
to get 2000 times your money ! ! )

Surely this detailed explanation is worth one sampling head and not just a
crumby old useless S3260 compensator card, right?

Stan
w7ni@...

tomg@... wrote:

Hi, all. I just purchased a "Tektronix Multiplexer Control Unit",
for the huge sum of $2.25. (I guess no one else was paying
attention, at the time! (Ebay, last night!))

It includes 23 individual S-1 Sampling Heads plugins, which I think I
am somewhat familiar with.

But, it also includes 32 individual "S-3260/Mod 20 Compensator"
plugins. I have NO IDEA what these are, and can't seem to find ANY
information with web searches.

I am hoping to help finance my Tek scope lust, with this windfall. I
know the sampling heads are worth a little something. But I haven't
a clue as to the usefulness of the compensators...

Does anyone know what these are good for? (First good answer gets a
free Compensator plugin, post-paid...!)

Thanks!!

Tom Gootee
tomg@...


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What's this Tek item?

 

Hi, all. I just purchased a "Tektronix Multiplexer Control Unit",
for the huge sum of $2.25. (I guess no one else was paying
attention, at the time! (Ebay, last night!))

It includes 23 individual S-1 Sampling Heads plugins, which I think I
am somewhat familiar with.

But, it also includes 32 individual "S-3260/Mod 20 Compensator"
plugins. I have NO IDEA what these are, and can't seem to find ANY
information with web searches.

I am hoping to help finance my Tek scope lust, with this windfall. I
know the sampling heads are worth a little something. But I haven't
a clue as to the usefulness of the compensators...

Does anyone know what these are good for? (First good answer gets a
free Compensator plugin, post-paid...!)

Thanks!!

Tom Gootee
tomg@...


Re: Parts needed

 

Michael,

Do you know the Tek part number?
I know a guy who just bought an assortment of Tek pots.

Tom Gootee
tomg@...


--- In TekScopes@..., Michael <mdd@d...> wrote:

Hi all,

I have just taken delivery of a 7603, and in transit, the
intensity/readout
controls were damaged. It needs a new ganged pot and concentric
knobs.

Can anyone recommend a supplier who takes Amex?

Thanks and regards,
:)
Michael


--

Michael VK2XMD 0404-478-205
I used to have a handle on life, but it broke ...


Re: Tek catalogs

Stan or Patricia Griffiths
 

Hi Stephan,

It looks like you are doing all of the right things to get permission. I have
just never heard of Tektronix granting such permission. Has Tek actually
responded to you with written permission to publish some of their copyrighted
material on the web? I would be surprised if they did . . . If they have given
you written permission, I would certainly like to know since I have asked and
been denied permission for a few things I would like to publish.

Stan
w7ni@...

stgraef wrote:

Hi Stan,

of course you're right! I have a writed permission from Tek for non-profit
copying.
I also contacted all other companies mentioned at me homepage.
Most will understand the internet as a "copy-and-paste-all-free" collection.
But I thing all material should be published with permission from the
authors.
And most of them will agree for our purposes.

Stefan

-----Urspr???ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Stan or Patricia Griffiths <w7ni@...>
An: <TekScopes@...>
Gesendet: Montag, 9. Oktober 2000 23:00
Betreff: Re: [TekScopes] Tek catalogs

I would be careful not to copy any Tektronix copyrighted material
without their written permission. When I wrote my book, I got official
written permission from Tektronix to use pictures from their old
catalogs in my book. Since their old catalogs are copyrighted, official
written permission is required.

It is true that there are individuals and companies who have been
copying Tek copyrighted material for years and getting away with it but
it is definitely not legal. On a few special occasions in the past, I
believe Tek has given permission to the U.S. Military to copy parts of
certain specific manuals, but I don't believe they have given permission
to any individual or company to ever copy entire manuals, catalogs, or
other technical materials that Tek produces.

I have also heard that some individuals have asked permission from Tek
to copy some of their Concept Books and they have been specifcally
denied permission to do the copies. Tek has shown more interest
recently in illegal copies of their stuff. I just wouldn't do it
without Tek's permission if I were you . . . and I would not accept
permission from the local Sales Office either. Real permission must
come from the Tektronix Legal Department in Beaverton, OR.

Stan
w7ni@...

Michael Dunn wrote:

At 2:52 PM +0200 2000/10/08, stgraef wrote:
At the moment he scanned some of
his and mine Tek catalogs, and I will convert them to pdf files.
If the stuff is available on CD-ROM we'll let you know.
I can burn CDs (and scan pages). I may also have access to some
old catalogs. I'll check...

-----------------------------------------------------------------
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Cantares | Self-Amplified Speakers, Test Equipment
74 George St. | Ambisonic Surround Sound CDs and Recording
Waterloo, Ont. | (519) 744-9395 (fax: 744-7129)
N2J 1K7 | mdunn@...
Canada |
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Re: Tek catalogs

stgraef
 

Hi Stan,

of course you're right! I have a writed permission from Tek for non-profit
copying.
I also contacted all other companies mentioned at me homepage.
Most will understand the internet as a "copy-and-paste-all-free" collection.
But I thing all material should be published with permission from the
authors.
And most of them will agree for our purposes.

Stefan

-----Urspr???ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Stan or Patricia Griffiths <w7ni@...>
An: <TekScopes@...>
Gesendet: Montag, 9. Oktober 2000 23:00
Betreff: Re: [TekScopes] Tek catalogs

I would be careful not to copy any Tektronix copyrighted material
without their written permission. When I wrote my book, I got official
written permission from Tektronix to use pictures from their old
catalogs in my book. Since their old catalogs are copyrighted, official
written permission is required.

It is true that there are individuals and companies who have been
copying Tek copyrighted material for years and getting away with it but
it is definitely not legal. On a few special occasions in the past, I
believe Tek has given permission to the U.S. Military to copy parts of
certain specific manuals, but I don't believe they have given permission
to any individual or company to ever copy entire manuals, catalogs, or
other technical materials that Tek produces.

I have also heard that some individuals have asked permission from Tek
to copy some of their Concept Books and they have been specifcally
denied permission to do the copies. Tek has shown more interest
recently in illegal copies of their stuff. I just wouldn't do it
without Tek's permission if I were you . . . and I would not accept
permission from the local Sales Office either. Real permission must
come from the Tektronix Legal Department in Beaverton, OR.

Stan
w7ni@...

Michael Dunn wrote:

At 2:52 PM +0200 2000/10/08, stgraef wrote:
At the moment he scanned some of
his and mine Tek catalogs, and I will convert them to pdf files.
If the stuff is available on CD-ROM we'll let you know.
I can burn CDs (and scan pages). I may also have access to some
old catalogs. I'll check...

-----------------------------------------------------------------
Michael Dunn | Surround Sound Decoder & Stereo Enhancement
Cantares | Self-Amplified Speakers, Test Equipment
74 George St. | Ambisonic Surround Sound CDs and Recording
Waterloo, Ont. | (519) 744-9395 (fax: 744-7129)
N2J 1K7 | mdunn@...
Canada |
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Re: Tek catalogs

Stan or Patricia Griffiths
 

I would be careful not to copy any Tektronix copyrighted material
without their written permission. When I wrote my book, I got official
written permission from Tektronix to use pictures from their old
catalogs in my book. Since their old catalogs are copyrighted, official
written permission is required.

It is true that there are individuals and companies who have been
copying Tek copyrighted material for years and getting away with it but
it is definitely not legal. On a few special occasions in the past, I
believe Tek has given permission to the U.S. Military to copy parts of
certain specific manuals, but I don't believe they have given permission
to any individual or company to ever copy entire manuals, catalogs, or
other technical materials that Tek produces.

I have also heard that some individuals have asked permission from Tek
to copy some of their Concept Books and they have been specifcally
denied permission to do the copies. Tek has shown more interest
recently in illegal copies of their stuff. I just wouldn't do it
without Tek's permission if I were you . . . and I would not accept
permission from the local Sales Office either. Real permission must
come from the Tektronix Legal Department in Beaverton, OR.

Stan
w7ni@...

Michael Dunn wrote:

At 2:52 PM +0200 2000/10/08, stgraef wrote:
At the moment he scanned some of
his and mine Tek catalogs, and I will convert them to pdf files.
If the stuff is available on CD-ROM we'll let you know.
I can burn CDs (and scan pages). I may also have access to some
old catalogs. I'll check...

-----------------------------------------------------------------
Michael Dunn | Surround Sound Decoder & Stereo Enhancement
Cantares | Self-Amplified Speakers, Test Equipment
74 George St. | Ambisonic Surround Sound CDs and Recording
Waterloo, Ont. | (519) 744-9395 (fax: 744-7129)
N2J 1K7 | mdunn@...
Canada |
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Tek catalogs

Michael Dunn
 

At 2:52 PM +0200 2000/10/08, stgraef wrote:
At the moment he scanned some of
his and mine Tek catalogs, and I will convert them to pdf files.
If the stuff is available on CD-ROM we'll let you know.
I can burn CDs (and scan pages). I may also have access to some old catalogs. I'll check...

-----------------------------------------------------------------
Michael Dunn | Surround Sound Decoder & Stereo Enhancement
Cantares | Self-Amplified Speakers, Test Equipment
74 George St. | Ambisonic Surround Sound CDs and Recording
Waterloo, Ont. | (519) 744-9395 (fax: 744-7129)
N2J 1K7 | mdunn@...
Canada |
-----------------------------------------------------------------


T&M Museum / New Release 1.10

stgraef
 

Hi there,

in between I reworked my online museum.
All visitors are welcome again at .

You'll find there some service documents about Tek instruments. Maybe someone
(Stan ?!) can check for errors or so. I also have a large assortment
of spare parts (like the 556 final tubes) - but remember: I'm located in Germany.

I will not comment any replys as I'm on buisness trip for the next two weeks.

If someone has interesting material which should be published for all of us,
please let me know if you have no possibility for an own homepage.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
To Stan:

Did you remember all the stuff about the 551/555 interconnection cable?
Do you have any backups? It would be a great help for me - otherwise
I have to check the whole stuff once more.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

There is a friend of mine (who will also get this message) who obtains
an online Tek-only museum too. At the moment he scanned some of
his and mine Tek catalogs, and I will convert them to pdf files.
If the stuff is available on CD-ROM we'll let you know.

Check his collection at

That's all for now. Have a good electron glow!

Stefan


Re: 453

Michael
 

Hi again, :)

Sometime on Fri, 06 Oct 2000, you wrote:
-Michael wrote:
-> I second that. But I don't think I've ever seen one for sale... I wanted
-> to buy the one I was working with, and Peter wouldn't sell it to me...
-If you really want a 453, you can find them for sale of eBay and in various
-classified ads for used test equipment. Not everything on eBay sells for
-outrageous prices . . .
-Stan
I guess you're right. But I've just shelled out $600 for an "as new" 7603
(actually it was cheap!) (and it was "as new" until the post office broke
it...) and don't have any more "big" money left right now.

But later on, I will be looking out for a 453. :)

What I *would* like right now are some calibration standards...

Cheers,
:)
Michael

--

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I used to have a handle on life, but it broke ...


Re: 1S1 repair news :-)

Michael
 

Sometime on Fri, 06 Oct 2000, you wrote:

-is now working somewhat - there are some triggering and offset
-problems. But, with the right settings and input, I can get a valid
-trace!!! Whether these probs are a result of the Schottkys, I don't
-yet know. All I can say is, it's VERY cool to scroll over a 200MHz
-waveform at 35ps/div! (yes, 35ps. 0.035ns!) Though a bit useless,
-as the risetime of the thing is *only* about 300ps...
Congratulations!
:)
Michael


1S1 repair news :-)

Michael Dunn
 

Yoohoo. I'm making progress repairing my 1S1 1GHz sampling plug-in. The biggest problem was a kaput power supply filter cap - totally dead - well, many, many kohms ESR. Replaced the big old can with a part about 1/6 the volume, yet almost twice the capacitance, and much better quality to boot! Semiconductors aren't the only technology that's improved in the last 35 years!

Also paralleled the smaller final power supply output stability caps with new ones, again much smaller, yet more C's!

As for the six missing GaAs diodes in the sampling bridge and elsewhere, I got some SMT Schottky diodes as hopeful subs. The unit is now working somewhat - there are some triggering and offset problems. But, with the right settings and input, I can get a valid trace!!! Whether these probs are a result of the Schottkys, I don't yet know. All I can say is, it's VERY cool to scroll over a 200MHz waveform at 35ps/div! (yes, 35ps. 0.035ns!) Though a bit useless, as the risetime of the thing is *only* about 300ps...


Re: 453

Stan or Patricia Griffiths
 

Michael wrote:

Hello, :)

Sometime on Mon, 02 Oct 2000, you wrote:

And in my mind the 485 would have to be a classic also... Now if there's any
thing I'd like *more* than a 453, it would be a 485. All the style of the 453,
and 350MHz! Yes!

But of course.... If I had a 453, it would not be for sale... :)
I second that. But I don't think I've ever seen one for sale... I wanted to
buy the one I was working with, and Peter wouldn't sell it to me... >sigh<.

Cheers,
:)
Michael

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If you really want a 453, you can find them for sale of eBay and in various
classified ads for used test equipment. Not everything on eBay sells for
outrageous prices . . .

Stan
w7ni@...


Re: Parts needed

Michael
 

Hi all,

I have just taken delivery of a 7603, and in transit, the intensity/readout
controls were damaged. It needs a new ganged pot and concentric knobs.

Can anyone recommend a supplier who takes Amex?

Thanks and regards,
:)
Michael


--

Michael VK2XMD 0404-478-205
I used to have a handle on life, but it broke ...


Tube(s) needed

Michael Dunn
 

Hi. Does anyone have any 8608 tubes? (med power pentodes with plate cap, used for vertical deflection on some Tek scopes (eg, 556, 549))

I'm willing to pay a reasonable amount for 1 or several, but not an exorbitant price.

-----------------------------------------------------------------
Michael Dunn | Surround Sound Decoder & Stereo Enhancement
Cantares | Self-Amplified Speakers, Test Equipment
74 George St. | Ambisonic Surround Sound CDs and Recording
Waterloo, Ont. | (519) 744-9395 (fax: 744-7129)
N2J 1K7 | mdunn@...
Canada |
-----------------------------------------------------------------


Tek parts, tubes, etc.

walter shawlee
 

hi,

we have a lot of tek parts and tubes, CRT's etc. for 5000/7000 and
some 400 series units. you can browse through what's sorted and on
line at:



To help with repairs, there is also a CRT cross reference, and tek
part number to JEDEC cross reference for many 1N/2N and IC parts. In
the tube section, we do have some tek special tubes, selected by
whatever mysterious criteria they thought was important, as well as
some commonly needed Tek tubes like 7119's etc. for the generators,
and some nuvistors for the older 400 series scopes.

sadly, we can't be much help with older tube 500 series scopes,
except for CRT's and some miniature HV rectifier tubes, and 6080's.
we also have the tek cross reference data to 1984 for semis, and can
help with some items not listed on oline for cross-reference data,
but these requests are done as we have time, so be patient. In the
NEW ARRIVALS section, we also just got dozens of Tek precision
capacitor kits for time bases and generators, if you need them.

I will add a link to this mail list into the Tek section later this
month as well. Anybody in Canada may also be interested in the fact
we will be moving shortly, and will have a lot of older Tek scrap we
have to get rid of. shipping is reasonable within Canada for that
kind of stuff, so might be useful to somebody.

all the best,
walter walter2@...


Re: 453

Michael
 

Sometime on Tue, 03 Oct 2000, I wrote:

I second that. But I don't think I've ever seen one for sale... I wanted to
buy the one I was working with, and Peter wouldn't sell it to me... >sigh<.
...And having just said that, I just found one at:

--- $200.

No, I'm not going for it, with the echange rate what it is.

Cheers,
:)
Michael


Re: 453

Michael
 

Hello, :)

Sometime on Mon, 02 Oct 2000, you wrote:

And in my mind the 485 would have to be a classic also... Now if there's any
thing I'd like *more* than a 453, it would be a 485. All the style of the 453,
and 350MHz! Yes!

But of course.... If I had a 453, it would not be for sale... :)
I second that. But I don't think I've ever seen one for sale... I wanted to
buy the one I was working with, and Peter wouldn't sell it to me... >sigh<.

Cheers,
:)
Michael


453

Arnoud van der Wel
 

About the 453....

'Great' is said with a wink to size and weight... The 453 is not a 'great'
scope. :)

Secondly, I specifically did not want to include transistorized Tek scopes
in the museum because the interest in those is even larger than the interest
in the tube scopes. Doing a question-and-answer session with all the
thousands of happy users of 5000, 7000, 453, 454, 465, 475, 485 users around
the world is not what I set out to do...

But of course.... If I had a 453, it would not be for sale... :)

Regards,

Arnoud.

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael [mailto:mdd@...]
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 10:07 AM
To: TekScopes@...
Subject: RE: [TekScopes] Hello World...



Hi again all... :)

Sometime on Mon, 02 Oct 2000, you wrote:

margo.student.utwente.nl has the IP address 130.89.221.72
FOUND IT!!!

Thanks for that. Looks like it was a nameserver problem
after all... Great
pages, but I take issue with your comment that the 453
"doesn't belong in the
list of the great tek scopes..." The 453 was my scope of
choice as soon as I
could get my hands on it! And the first thing I did was
throw away the mesh
filter and fit a blue one. Lovely! :)

In my mind, the 453 is the "classic portable" oscilloscope.

Cheers,
:)
Michael


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Re: Hello World...

Stan or Patricia Griffiths
 

I was there when the 453 was introduced to the world. No doubt about it . . . it
was revolutionary. You have to put it in the context of the other instruments
available on the market at the time. Nothing could touch it. IBM was certainly
in love with it . . .

Stan
w7ni@...

Michael wrote:

Hi again all... :)

Sometime on Mon, 02 Oct 2000, you wrote:

margo.student.utwente.nl has the IP address 130.89.221.72
FOUND IT!!!

Thanks for that. Looks like it was a nameserver problem after all... Great
pages, but I take issue with your comment that the 453 "doesn't belong in the
list of the great tek scopes..." The 453 was my scope of choice as soon as I
could get my hands on it! And the first thing I did was throw away the mesh
filter and fit a blue one. Lovely! :)

In my mind, the 453 is the "classic portable" oscilloscope.

Cheers,
:)
Michael


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Re: Hello World...

Michael
 

Hi again all... :)

Sometime on Mon, 02 Oct 2000, you wrote:

margo.student.utwente.nl has the IP address 130.89.221.72
FOUND IT!!!

Thanks for that. Looks like it was a nameserver problem after all... Great
pages, but I take issue with your comment that the 453 "doesn't belong in the
list of the great tek scopes..." The 453 was my scope of choice as soon as I
could get my hands on it! And the first thing I did was throw away the mesh
filter and fit a blue one. Lovely! :)

In my mind, the 453 is the "classic portable" oscilloscope.

Cheers,
:)
Michael