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Re: Tek 2445B and 2465B power supply recap and Dallas NVRAM replacements?

 

On Mon, Feb 5, 2024 at 07:48 AM, Ozan wrote:


FM18W08
I have also with success replaced DS1230 Dallas chips in HP scopes with FM18W08 and a SOIC to 28DIP board from CPC Farnel + IC socket = 5$/GBP and works well.


Re: 2465A start-up problem

 

Last night I swapped the entire supply over and the problem remains. Surely the chances of two PSU's having identical and 'uncommon' faults, rules out that possibility.

Considering that we have both vertical and horizontal deflection, Sweep, and intensity control, then it seems to me that I need to deep dive into the focus section.


Re: 2430A no display

 

2430A I had last week had no display, a 2.7Uf tant cap was loading a reg circuit (top PCB rear left)

--
Jeffeelcr


012-0482-00/01

 

Due to a mistake on a drawing Tektronix had 012-0482-00/01 cables made with RG-58/U cable.
They have now corrected the error and have the correct RG223/U cable and have 012-0482-01 made with the correct cable.
--
Jeffeelcr


Re: SC503 Interesting Wave Form

 

On Wed, Feb 26, 2025 at 12:43 PM, Barry Breaux wrote:

I changed DC502 to SC503.


Hello,

I posted a picture in photo of a waveform being drawn by an SC503. I asked if
anyone wanted to guess the cause. I know the answer, but take a guess if you
want. I will post the component failure a little later.

/g/TekScopes/album?id=300884

Barry


Re: unresponsive 492; possible memory issue

 

Makes sense. They added the optocoupler later, it looks like.

It doesn't look like the 492 used the line trigger for power-good reset, at
least at first glance, so it sounds like the disconnected capacitor may have
been failing to suppress some noise that kept the controller from booting
properly.

-- john, KE5FX

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Sent: Monday, March 3, 2025 10:55 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [TekScopes] unresponsive 492; possible memory issue

I couldn't find an optocoupler in the power supply schematic, and RESET on
the processor board schematic led me to GPIB board. Likely that's me being
clueless and looking at the wrong thing, but I found an old post of yours
that mentioned a 495 using the line-trigger:


Re: SC503 Interesting Wave Form

 

Hi all,
I'm having an issue today with 'View/Reply online' (I'm not able to find the window to enter a message) and that's the reason for using 'Reply to group'.If Edward's 'Please explain more' request refers to my previous message 'Not clear about the role of DC502 here...' then Barry's first sentence of this topic should be re-read
RegardsT


Re: 2465A start-up problem

 

The PSU hasn't been fully recapped although it the ESR was checked


Re: 2465A start-up problem

 

Hi Menahem.

Before, it wouldn't turn on. The two 0.068?F's had exploded.

James.


Re: 2465A start-up problem

 

And before the RIFA's were replaced, what was its condition?

Menahem


Re: SC503 Interesting Wave Form

 

Please explain more.


Re: VintageTEK demo boards are back

 

On Tue, Mar 4, 2025 at 04:37 PM, Dave Brown wrote:

The museum is open to the public with no admission charge. We participate in
external STEM events for free. The museum relies 100% on volunteers,
donations, and eBay sales for its operation. These sales help keep the museum
open.
Hi Dave,
If you feel that this discussion is harmful to the Museum's revenue stream, then I will certainly "cease and desist". I'm just a hobbyist, and I don't want my interests and curiosities to harm a small business. The museum I work at ( ) struggles with funds of course also. We do charge admission, and have several paid staff in addition to a number of volunteers like me; but we also have over 50 acres of property and 8 or 9 buildings to maintain (one of which is on the CO Historic Register). We host multiple school group tours every week, host STEaM camps, etc. We think we are one of the very best museums of its kind anywhere.

Pete


Re: 2465A start-up problem

 

Nothing shorted nor open on the A9 board


Re: VintageTEK demo boards are back

 

Thank you Craig. The museum is open to the public with no admission charge. We participate in external STEM events for free. The museum relies 100% on volunteers, donations, and eBay sales for its operation. These sales help keep the museum open. If you haven't noticed lately, a lot of museums have folded.


Re: VintageTEK demo boards are back

 

On Tue, Mar 4, 2025 at 03:23 PM, Brian Cockburn wrote:


Open sourcing would be nice, but I would guess that the museum see this as a
(small) revenue generator. Although, an open source set of instructions could
include a request for a donation.
My understanding is that the fellow that wrote the code for the VintageTEK design passed away (per a note from Tom Fang). And I inferred (but could be wrong!) that the source code is lost/missing, so making changes would require a re-write.
Please correct me if these things are not true.

Meanwhile, I want to re-iterate that I won't be selling anything, and I have no interest in "reverse-engineering" someone else's design. If my project (basically just FW/SW) seems useful to someone, I will share it. If a non-profit (such as VintageTEK) feels that sharing my code is a bad thing for them, then we can talk about that... I volunteer at a local Museum every week, so I fully understand the issues.

Pete


Re: VintageTEK demo boards are back

 

Open sourcing would be nice, but I would guess that the museum see this as a (small) revenue generator. Although, an open source set of instructions could include a request for a donation.

As to volume, 25 at a time seems about right to me. Go for 250 and you'll be left with a lot of stock I'd reckon. Demand has been pent up, but is limited.


Re: VintageTEK demo boards are back

 

On Tue, Mar 4, 2025 at 3:09?PM saipan59 (Pete) via groups.io <saipan1959=
[email protected]> wrote:

Correct, AFAIK. The distinction (I think) would be: To draw a line, you
have an X-Y START point, and also an X-Y END point. You could have analog
circuitry that causes the X and Y voltages to move linearly from the start
point to the end point, thus drawing a perfect line.

The 2430 and its ilk have a relatively simple vector generator circuit for
X and Y that recreates absolutely beautiful traces on the CRT. The slope is
generated by subtracting the current and the desired X/Y, which is then
sampled at the appropriate time. I guess to generate arbitrary vectors
you'd want to be able to set a starting point ... or just control the Z
axis as well?


Re: SC503 Interesting Wave Form

 

No clear about the role of DC502 here...
T


Re: VintageTEK demo boards are back

 

On Tue, Mar 4, 2025 at 12:49 PM, Craig Cramb wrote:

Leave the design and building to the Tek Museum. They use it to keep the
museum in operation. Soon as they allow everyone to get the design or
reverse engineer the board then it’s for others to run with and take money
away from the original developer.
The same thing has been done many times, for years. Consider all of the "oscilloscope clock" designs out there. Anyone who wishes to support VintageTEK.org should absolutely buy from them (do they actually make a profit on those sales??). As for me, it's an intellectual exercise, which I think some folks on this forum are interested in.

Jimbert wrote:
I've never worked with vector displays, but isn't what you describe how it has to be done? You can't just tell a 'scope to draw a line from point A to point B.
Correct, AFAIK. The distinction (I think) would be: To draw a line, you have an X-Y START point, and also an X-Y END point. You could have analog circuitry that causes the X and Y voltages to move linearly from the start point to the end point, thus drawing a perfect line.
When an MCU with a DAC is involved, the difference is that there are discrete steps. In my case, there are 4095 steps between 0 volts and 3.3 volts. The DAC output could be LP filtered to give a very close approximation to a true line.
For drawing a picture, it could be made up of a collection of "lines", each with a different position, direction, and length. This is what a vector display does. My simplification is to replace a line with a series of dots.

Pete


Re: VintageTEK demo boards are back

 

Leave the design and building to the Tek Museum. They use it to keep the
museum in operation. Soon as they allow everyone to get the design or
reverse engineer the board then it’s for others to run with and take money
away from the original developer.




On Sun, Mar 2, 2025 at 1:03?PM Dave Brown via groups.io <davebr=
[email protected]> wrote:

We have inventory for another set of 25 and will begin building. Watch the
store. We didn't expect this amount of demand and have a lot of shipping to
tend to this week.