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Re: Free...

Dick
 

Where are you located ??

73, Dick, W1KSZ
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Sent: Thursday, May 6, 2021 2:11 PM
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Subject: [TekScopes] Free...

I upgraded my Tek 2232 scope from the X-Y plotter to GPIB, so I have a G-8688-04 plotter board with trim panel and mounting hardware.

My scope is in pretty perfect condition, as is the x-y plot module. Seems a shame to throw it away if someone could use it.


Re: CRT rejuvenation (was: Re: [TekScopes] 577 D2 question(s))

 

You are correct about a rejuvinated B&W jug not being as sharp. A dot triad color jug was affected even more because so much of the beam hit the shadow mask intead of going on through. The rejuvinated gun(s) could look good on the emission test, but the picture was not improved and could even be degraded from what it was before. A slot mask jug got brighter but not sharper. Sony Trinitrons? did not take rejuvination well at all, when they faded it was pretty much curtains for them. The Tektronix 650 picture monitor used a Trinitron? and was quite popular here. There were many efforts to zap them back to good brightness, but very few succeeded.

? Bruce Gentry, KA2IVY


IIRC, when a TV CRT ages, the electron emission of a small circular spot on its cathode decreases.
Boosting the heater voltage heats a larger ring-shaped area, leaving the semi-dead spot in the middle.
Since the electron emission then takes place from a ring-shaped area, the onscreen image's focus is no
longer as sharp as it was.

I dimly recall (pun intended) servicing a console? black-and-white TV which had a very dim screen and *three* boosters
connected in series. The set's frugal owner reluctantly agreed to getting a rebuilt CRT installed.

73--

Brad? AA1IP






CRT rejuvenation (was: Re: [TekScopes] 577 D2 question(s))

 

- wrote on 5/6/2021 7:44 PM:

The TV CRT rejuvenators simply place an excessive voltage on the filament
in the hope it will burn some of the "glaze?" that have built up on the
cathode and that that will increase the electron emissions from the
cathode.
Hello--

IIRC, when a TV CRT ages, the electron emission of a small circular spot on its cathode decreases.
Boosting the heater voltage heats a larger ring-shaped area, leaving the semi-dead spot in the middle.
Since the electron emission then takes place from a ring-shaped area, the onscreen image's focus is no
longer as sharp as it was.

I dimly recall (pun intended) servicing a console? black-and-white TV which had a very dim screen and *three* boosters
connected in series. The set's frugal owner reluctantly agreed to getting a rebuilt CRT installed.

73--

Brad? AA1IP


Re: 577 D2 question(s)

 

The TV CRT rejuvenators simply place an excessive voltage on the filament
in the hope it will burn some of the "glaze?" that have built up on the
cathode and that that will increase the electron emissions from the
cathode. IIRC they would apply about 16 volts to a 12 volt filament. IIRC
you were only supposed to use the "boost" for about 5 seconds at a time and
no longer. And no more than three such boosts. Usually by the time that
people brought in their TVs for repair the picture was so bad, and the CRT
was so worn out, that there wasn't anything left to lose by attempting to
boost the CRT. The rejuvenators usually did help but only to a limited
degree and I think that the improvement was very temporary.

On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 2:55 AM Martin <musaeum@...> wrote:

On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 05:44 PM, ChuckA wrote:
I've had good luck using a Sencore CR-70 restoring a TDS-648A and a
HP3562A CRT....

Hi Chuck,

do you, or anyone else, have an idea what the Sencore and other
rejuvenators are actually doing?

cheers
Martin






Re: Buying Tek equipment on eBay or on Swap meets

 

Larry,

I envy your lifestyle but not your location! I've lived and worked in
Canada a few times and I used to live in extremely rural SW Virginia in
much the same manner that you now live in, in Maine, but I've decided that
that's just not my style any more. A few years ago I was offered 56 acres
of raw land in Nowheresville, Georgia for free but I finally decided that I
just didn't want to live like that again. It's just too much work!

On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 10:11 AM Lawrance A. Schneider <
llaassllaaass@...> wrote:

On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 10:35 AM, - wrote:


You have to persistent and
probably have to visit them over and over and over
Hi,

I'm a 75 year old ECE student at the university. When they 'get rid' of
something I'm there looking and maybe accepting. I've gotten things from
the Physics Department (my digs years ago) and from ECE.

As to 'visiting over and over', the Ship Yard is three hours away and the
Naval base is 5 hours away; Maine roads are not the best. I do use Craigs
List and our local Uncle Henry's.

Maine is not a hot bed of electronics. I moved from Chicagoland to Maine
because I like 'the willy-wags'; I also like Quantum Mechanics and
Neotherian Rings but that is another story. I gave up a very promising
carrier in physics to live here - I made a very conscious and deliberate
decision to stay here. When I awake in the morning, I remind myself "I
don't have to 'go home' after vacation; I LIVE HERE". I was an instructor
at the Uni for years (Physics and Mathematics) and then was offered a job
in the Postal Service at more then 3 times the pay! Having a family, I
accepted the job; going from grant to grant is not fun. I ended up being
an Electronic Technician for the PO. When I retired, I went back to the
Uni as a student.

I've built my own home twice out of trees (lumber) I dragged out of my
woods with my draft horse. I've repaired farm machinery and sold it for
better equipment. I've repaired computers for friends and at work. In
all, I've had a lot of fun (excluding the PO which was a JOB) maintaining,
designing and building lots of stuff. I'm 75 and a 100% disabled vet; I've
have had over 40 surgeries including 4 knee replacements and 2 shoulder
replacements; I definitely appreciate Dennis's wife travails. I'm worn out
physically; I have an electric chainsaw and we both run out of power at
about the same time. Thus, I now play with my computers and do electronics.

I'm not hurting for 'equipment', especially at the Uni, but I am envious
of what I hear many of you make note of.

Thanks, larry






New member

 

Hi
I am returning to creative technical endeavors after an absence of 20+ years, when I returned to the amateur radio community. Previously, I had worked as a technician, mainly high end audio when I was going through the NYU EE program in the last 60's early 70's. I expect to be starting work on a three band ham radio transceiver in the next few weeks, and that is all the excuse I need to re-outfit my workshop. My scope is a Tek 2465BDM, similar to ones I have used at uni, never thinking I would ever be able to afford one. Any suggestions for hints and technique would be welcome.
I am looking for a function generator, and may buy a non-toy DVM soon.
Thanks,
Steve


Free...

 

I upgraded my Tek 2232 scope from the X-Y plotter to GPIB, so I have a G-8688-04 plotter board with trim panel and mounting hardware.

My scope is in pretty perfect condition, as is the x-y plot module. Seems a shame to throw it away if someone could use it.


Re: Recoloring Plastic Parts #photo-notice

 

Thanks for the suggestions. I can very confidently say that the discoloration is not a deposit. There are spots on both textured and smooth surfaces. When I first acquired the scope, there was some dry spots on the screen, but they came off with IPA and left no etching. And yes, the plastic is blue throughout.


Re: Recoloring Plastic Parts #photo-notice

 

Looking at case parts I have for the 2XX handhelds, the color pigment looks like it is molded into the plastic through and through, rather than being paint. The discolored spots were probably caused by light or chemicals bleaching the pigment. It probably doesn't go very deep, handling the case has likely abraded the bleached layer off, but it remains in the depressed areas of the texture. You could try some automotive cleaning compound applied with a brush to see if the faded layer can be removed. When used on vehicles, it's purpose is to remove the oxidized and faded surface and reveal the vivid paint color underneath.

??? Bruce Gentry, KA2IVY

On 5/6/21 17:22, Jeff Dutky wrote:
Are you sure that the plastic itself has changed color? If looks like the grey spots are collected in depressions of the plastic's texture, which suggests that it is a separate material that has been worn away by handling. Admittedly, his interpretation is contradicted by the fact that we don't seem to see the discoloration on the screen, metal, or beige plastic parts, but I had very similar grey spatter on a 475, which was removed using isopropyl alcohol (and a generous amount of elbow grease).

I would try soaking the case in IPA and then rubbing with a soft cloth or paper towel. Maybe start with just the fold out foot and see how it works.

-- Jeff Dutky




Re: Comprehensive parts list for 2430/2440

 

Thanks very much, Mark!


Re: Recoloring Plastic Parts #photo-notice

 

Are you sure that the plastic itself has changed color? If looks like the grey spots are collected in depressions of the plastic's texture, which suggests that it is a separate material that has been worn away by handling. Admittedly, his interpretation is contradicted by the fact that we don't seem to see the discoloration on the screen, metal, or beige plastic parts, but I had very similar grey spatter on a 475, which was removed using isopropyl alcohol (and a generous amount of elbow grease).

I would try soaking the case in IPA and then rubbing with a soft cloth or paper towel. Maybe start with just the fold out foot and see how it works.

-- Jeff Dutky


Re: Free: Tektronix manuals and catalogues

 

Hello Ken,

could you please let me know how much postage would be to send the following catalogues to Germany, Europe:

63/64, 70 and 80

Kindest Regards,
Joe


Re: Buying Tek equipment on eBay or on Swap meets

 

Yes, Larry, I remember University of Maine Orono having a good EE department, and they built some semiconductor variable attenuators for us when I worked at the Varian Beverly Microwave Division back in the mid 1980's. You might want to check them out. Maybe they are discarding some nice goodies!

Jim Ford (now in Southern California for the last 33 years)

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To: [email protected]
Sent: 5/5/2021 7:33:33 AM
Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Buying Tek equipment on eBay or on Swap meets

I'm on the opposite side of the country but don't you have some sea ports
there and a navy base? (Also large airports and/or universities) If so then
I can guarantee that there are a lot of civilian companies near them that
support them and that have very sophisticated TE and that also frequently
discard their old equipment for newer models. Seek out those companies,
see if they have surplus disposal auctions and also see if they just send a
lot of the TE and other electronics to electronic disposal companies for
recycling. Seek out those disposal companies see if they will sell any of
the "scrap" to you. It's not like shopping at Sears where you can go in
and pick the exact model that you want, it's more like digging for car
parts in an automotive junk yard, but can guarantee that you will find and
then *want* things that you never imagined! You have to persistent and
probably have to visit them over and over and over so be friendly to them
and *respect* their property and equipment and don't leave a mess behind or
they won't let you return. They never know what is coming in in advance so
you need to visit them over and over again, so I said, stay on GOOD terms
with them.

IMO shopping on Ebay is for people that are too LAZY to go out and look
for the items that they want. It's more convenient and you won't have to
get your hands dirty but it is expensive. OTOH when you start getting into
really specialized TE such as HP 3458 meters, then you're probably not
going to find one locally and you may have to resort to E-Greed. But hang
onto your wallet if you do!

Also have you tried placing WANT ads on Craigslist, Facebbook
Marketplace or in the newspapers not only in your town but everywhere
within driving distance? Years ago, even before E-bay, a friend of mine
installed an incoming 1-8oo number on his phone line. Then, even though he
lived several states away, he placed I-want-to-buy-HP want ads in all of
the newspapers surrounding several of HPs biggest US manufacturing plants.
He had hundreds and hundreds of calls from people who had worked at HP, or
one of their family members had, and they all had HP items that wanted to
sell. He had an account with UPS at the time so he would buy their items
and have them drop them at UPS and UPS would send them to him. The key to
his operation was to make it as simple and as easy and as cheap as possible
for the sellers to sell and send their stuff to him. No E-bay, no PayPal,
no (then very expensive) long distance phone calls. Just call his 800
number, tell him what you had and if you made a deal, then drop the item at
UPS and he would send you a check or money order. If you're willing to
drive and pick up the item in person, then I think that this approach would
be extremely effective for buying from people that have old big heavy TE
that they don't want to test or have to box up and ship. IMO you would be
MUCH better off picking scopes up in person since you could be sure that
they didn't get damaged in shipping and avoid the expensive packing and
shipping fees. Buf it that is impossible, then you could have the seller
drop the bare item off at UPS or FedEx and, for a fee, they will pack it
and ship it to you. Beware the fee though! The last time that I did that,
UPS charged me $100 just to box up a HP 9826 computer and that was at least
20 years ago! If you're going to have equipment sent to you, you might
also consider getting some very well built boxes and sturdy foam that the
TE will fit into and then ship the box and the packaging to the seller so
that they can pack the TE into it and then return it to you.

On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 8:54 AM Lawrance A. Schneider <
llaassllaaass@...> wrote:

I live in the willy-wags of Maine. About the only way go getting anything
is ebay or CraigsList. If someone else lives in Maine, I'd like to know
how they (you) get anything without resorting to the above.

Thanks, larry









Recoloring Plastic Parts #photo-notice

 

Hi Folks,

Anyone have experience restoring the color of plastic parts? Specifically, I have a 212 that works very well and is physically in great shape, however it has discoloration on the plastic (looks like chemical bleaching). Is there a means of re-dying the plastic?

Thanks,
Stefan

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Re: Free: Tektronix manuals and catalogues

 

If you have any 465M original manuals, I will be interested.

Instead of recycling, is it possible to check with a local library? My local library has a whole section of old electronic service manuals like SAMS photo-fact etc. This library also takes donations that they sell to collect money for various projects. At this time when the budgets are cut, they do all sorts of things to keep things going. You never know. Just a thought.

Thanks.


Re: Free: Tektronix manuals and catalogues

 

Nice collection. I could use the following, will send a private email to ask for the details:

7B85
7704 Service
7904 Service
7B10
DC503
TM504
7B15
7A16
7A26

- Bob Headrick


Cheap Auction Opportunities - Tek 5111A and 7613

 

Posting this because of the other thread where people were sharing how used Tek prices have skyrocketed on FleaBay, etc.



These are too far away for me - but the prices are right, and this company will apparently get you in touch with reliable local shippers - or you can pick it up locally if that is practical for you. You can also inspect the goods before bidding if you're local.

5111A with a 5A26 and a 5B10N module
7613 Scope with a 7B92A and 7A26 module

As of the posting of this thread there were zero bidders, and the items start at $25.

I've watched these guys before. Often this Tek stuff doesn't sell, or goes really cheaply. The items are in Gilroy CA, and I am not associated in any way with this auction. Note that there is a 20% buyer's commission on your bid.


Re: Transporting a 500-Series Scope without Breaking the CRT

 

I went to my parts shelf to be sure what an Allen Bradley "J" pot was. They are some of the best ever made. The front bushing that goes through the panel is the only bearing. The rear section of the pot is turned and supported by an extension of the shaft. Getting contact cleaner into these pots to get rid of scratchiness is not horribly difficult. Use an awl or other sharp pointed tool to spread the shell away from the brown ring where the tabs bend around to hold the pot together. Don't over do it, just open up a small space and spray the cleaner in. Then use the awl or long nose pliers to push the tab back tightly around the front. As for solvent, the flammable formula of brake cleaner from an auto supply used carefully works well. Another cleaner that works well is the electrical contact cleaner made by CRC and others that is sold at home centers and some auto supplies. It is pure solvent and does not contain any lubricant. All of the formulas I have seen are also flammable, just be sensible.

?? Bruce Gentry, KA2IVY

On 5/4/21 19:06, Jeff Dutky wrote:
I've cleaned up the CA plug-in with a toothbrush and warm, soapy water, and it looks almost new now. I've used DeOxit on the switches, which improved the switch feel 100%, but the vertical position pots (and assume the other pots) are quite gummy and stiff, and I don't see a way to get lubricant into them. Do I need to disassemble the pots, or are they not sealed?

-- Jeff Dutky




Re: Transporting a 500-Series Scope without Breaking the CRT

 

I believe that you are correct, Bruce. I couldn¡¯t remember the proper term for the material.

The material had a definite rubber like feel to it and the encapsulated strands were of various darker shades. There was another time when I received a container that had a similar packing material but it appeared that they were using string or something similar because of the wide variety of colors. Either way the cut edges were known to be somewhat sharp from the stiffness of the material.

Greg


Re: Tektronix Probe Replacement Parts and Accessories

 

Dennis,

Thanks for sharing your story. I would love to see your collection and learn a lot more about these wonderful instruments.

--
Michael Lynch
Dardanelle, AR