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Re: Message from your fearless (foolish?) leader
Dennis:
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I don't know your wife Marian (obviously), although after observing your responses to others on the Tekscopes group, I can imagine that she is a wonderful human being, and I will send prayers on her behalf.? But my connection (obscure though it may be, through this users' group) to you is such that I hope you can continue to attend to your personal/family needs above any requirements associated with the Tekscopes group.? I think your leadership and control has been fine over the years, and we will do just fine.? I don't think there's been any need for you to worry about us (on Tekscopes). Try to take care of your SELF in the meantime.? It's difficult to provide care for a family member who's been incapacitated (temporarily, or otherwise), and? our best wishes (and prayers) go with you also. Mike Dinolfo N4MWP On 3/15/21 9:33 PM, Dennis Tillman W7pF wrote:
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Re: Corrosion Damage ¨C TM500 Plugins
The old black anti-static foam was notorious for breaking down and
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emitting some kind of gas that would attack ANY nearby metal, even gold or nickel plating. It's common to find test equipment accessories, from HP and others, in the original boxes and the outside of all of the metal items is badly corroded. On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 10:25 PM <christopherbath@...> wrote:
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PM-Re: [TekScopes] Message from your fearless (foolish?) leader
Dennis-
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we the children have been really good during your unknown forced absence, google has caused issues for me not giving me my messages with thunderbird...also a what??? why??? nothing on my end was changed..etc.... I guess they fix things till it breaks...like changing settings without telling me!. darned kids..... All the best and a speedy recovery for Marian....it truly is amazing what medical science is able to do today. being I have been taking care of my mom for the last year.? it is not easy, So, let the little things slide a bit and do as ya can...stay on top of the important things...like Marian the 5 pups! ¸é±ð²Ô¨¦±ð, K6FSB On 3/15/21 6:33 PM, Dennis Tillman W7pF wrote:
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Corrosion Damage ¨C TM500 Plugins
I have some TM-500 plugins that have been stored for a number of years in the garage in what I thought was a safe plastic storage container that is almost fully sealed from the atmosphere. To my horror when opening the box on the weekend all plugins have suffered some amount of corrosion damage. Examples of the damage include hardware items such as screws rusting, aluminium oxidisation and plastic (typically inner cables) showing chemical deposits on the outer surfaces. A couple of the plugins were fully wrapped in bubble wrap and have also suffered damage.
I had wondered if moisture had got inside the container which is possible given that a small amount of air would be able to get insider the container around the opening however given the nature of the damage this does not seem to add up. My suspicion is that the foam inside the container has emitted some sort of chemical that has caused the corrosion possibly Methylene Chloride which is apparently used in the production of polyurethane foams. Would this make sense or is something else the likely cause of the issue? |
Re: Message from your fearless (foolish?) leader
Hang in there Dennis, we'll try to behave. Prayers and good vibes to Marian.
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Vince. On 03/15/2021 09:33 PM, Dennis Tillman W7pF wrote:
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Re: Message from your fearless (foolish?) leader
Best recovery for Mrs. Marian! =D Tell her that even people far away as
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Brazil is wishing her a good recovery =D ---8<---Corte aqui---8<--- ---8<---Corte aqui---8<--- Em seg., 15 de mar. de 2021 ¨¤s 22:33, Dennis Tillman W7pF < dennis@...> escreveu: Last Tuesday afternoon, Mar 9, for some unexplained reason Groups.io began |
Re: Message from your fearless (foolish?) leader
Hi Dennis,
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Please convey my best wishes to Marian for a speedy recovery! --Tom -- Prof. Thomas H. Lee Allen Ctr., Rm. 205 350 Jane Stanford Way Stanford University Stanford, CA 94305-4070 On 3/15/2021 18:33, Dennis Tillman W7pF wrote:
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Re: Message from your fearless (foolish?) leader
Dennis,
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I am glad all went well. You and your family are in my prayers with special well wishes for Marian. GOD Bless and Thanks, rich! On 3/15/2021 8:33 PM, Dennis Tillman W7pF wrote:
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Message from your fearless (foolish?) leader
Last Tuesday afternoon, Mar 9, for some unexplained reason Groups.io began
sending me messages that emails addressed to me from the groups.io groups I belong to were bouncing. That came in to my InBox about the time I was getting my wife, Marian, ready for a hip replacement surgery early the following morning. I didn't have a minute to myself from just before those notices started to appear from Groups.io until Saturday morning to look at my email. A few hours later on Tuesday Groups.io notified me that they were suspending all email to me until I told them it was OK to resume sending it again. They never explained why it was bouncing but on Saturday when I told them it was OK to start sending it again they did. It was as if there was never a problem in the first place. I still have no idea why this happened. More importantly, I have no idea if I missed anything important. If I didn't then I'm quite happy you all behaved yourselves :) :) :) in my enforced absence. Update on Marian: The hip replacement was a complete success. This is an amazing operation with patients walking again without assistance (except for a cane for a while) in a few weeks. At one point in the operation a surgical robot is used (a first as far as I'm concerned). Almost a week after the operation she is walking slowly with the aid of a walker. The biggest issue at this point is pain from the incision and difficulty sleeping for very long. Most of the pain meds make her dizzy, give her indigestion, cause her constipation, and generally disagree with her so she has few choices to deal with the pain. The pain makes it difficult for her to sleep. Marian will remain home recuperating for the next 10 days. During that time I have to do all the things she used to do for us. I had no idea how much that involved. I'm exhausted most of the day while I take care of her needs; do all the food shopping she used to do; walk, feed, and entertain our 5 Golden Retrievers, and try to cope with over 100 emails each day. I appreciate, in advance, your concern for Marian and I apologize for not responding to you get well wishes although I will pass them along as soon as I get a chance to check in on TekScopes. Dennis Tillman W7pF Your fearless (foolish?) leader |
Re: I built a TM500 mainframe tester, and updated the design. Someone might find this useful?
I just checked my TM501 (Not TM501A) modules, all four of them in my collection have Q12 on the left, Q10 on the right.
I also just plugged my tester module in to each and the +15 and -15 LED's lit ok when the rotary switch is set to Position 3 (+15V should be out when in Position 1, -15V should be out when in Position 4) |
Re: 475B intermittent horizontal
I have cleaned all the switches and viola, all nice and dandy!!
Thank you guys! The only problem remains the faulty 100x divider module in the attenuator of the 2nd channel. I bought new one some time ago, but it fell apart as soon as i touched it despite being new, it wasn't cheap including postage so i wonder if i should just try again, it originally put me off ordering again. |
Re: CRT anode discharge
Bruce,
I had a similar experience in the mid 70's as a young design engineer. I had a multi-input ADC which was implemented with a single ADC, a S/H and a couple of multiplexers. The problem I had with dielectric absorption was with the single sample and hold capacitor where I had initially used a polycarbonate. The side effect of the dielectric absorption was that it caused a small cross-coupling from one channel to the next one that was to be converted due to charge being left on the hold capacitor. Ultimately the problem was resolved by utilizing a Teflon dielectric capacitor which had a very low dielectric absorption, and a price tag reflecting that. Matt Hi Bruce, During a project as a young engineer in the early 70's I was tasked with the design implementation of a unique multi channel ADC which required input sample-and-hold blocks. Initially, for the storage caps I naively chose 330 pF ceramic caps that had, in that application, a bad soak issue.(read: plainly obvious, like 1 to 3ish percent, when you look on a scope, understand what you're seeing and how to fix it). It took a bit of head scratching to figure out what was going on... not totally unlike someone getting zapped by soak, its an effect I'll never forget.. As I recall, both Bob Pease and Al Williams have written of their soak experiences and knowledge. Dielectric soak isn't just for folks trying to pinch off that last .001% of THD. ;-) Roger Marin, KJ7SGV |
I built a TM500 mainframe tester, and updated the design. Someone might find this useful?
Fellow TM-500 Test Module Constructors,
I've just completed assembling my TM500 test module and after plugging it into a TM501 frame for testing, found that although the 5V indicator illuminated, the -15V and +15V indicators did not. Probing around a bit I found a puzzling situation. The +15V base drive is routed to the TM501 frame PNP transistor: the one the left side as viewed through the opening from the front. This is labeled Q-12 on the circuit board, near where the leads connect. The transistor on the right side is an NPN and is labeled as Q10 on the circuit board where the leads connect. The TM501A manual found on TEKWIKI clearly shows Q10 (PNP) on the left and Q12 (NPN) on the right. I am now wondering if this is traceable to a Tektronix documentation error or whatever. Has others assembling these modules run into this enigma? I have a TM-502 and a TM504, but thought I would ask first before making any changes or checking into the larger TM-units. Bruce, KG6OJI |
Re: CRT anode discharge
Hi Bruce,
During a project as a young engineer in the early 70's I was tasked with the design implementation of a unique multi channel ADC which required input sample-and-hold blocks. Initially, for the storage caps I naively chose 330 pF ceramic caps that had, in that application, a bad soak issue.(read: plainly obvious, like 1 to 3ish percent, when you look on a scope, understand what you're seeing and how to fix it). It took a bit of head scratching to figure out what was going on... not totally unlike someone getting zapped by soak, its an effect I'll never forget.. As I recall, both Bob Pease and Al Williams have written of their soak experiences and knowledge. Dielectric soak isn't just for folks trying to pinch off that last .001% of THD. ;-) Roger Marin, KJ7SGV |
485 super weak brightness control
Hi folks,
I acquired some time ago 485 and finally today I managed to spend some time with it. Cleaning of the switches and moving all the controls back and forth several times brought back most things so I could see both channels working. Most challenging was/is the TIME base, wouldn't scale correctly but after really many turns it now basically does what it should with exception of the last 3 fastest settings. There the picture is all to the side and slowly drifts in but it's very distorted and quite clearly there's something wrong. I can also see ghost signals like if there was massive jitter or even better described some bounced signals as if the transmission wasnt terminated and I think I can see the signal partly during blank phase. Things are better at higher frequencies and worse on lower. When I enable second time base it's only very faint picture only visible with B intensity at max. But when I move the display all the way to the right I can see very bright spots on the left side so maybe the horizontal signal doesn't have proper connection somewhere and only deflection I can see is some crosstalk? power supply all the low voltages look OK, but the high voltage 2950V I can only measure some 2000 volts. It is my first time using 1000x probe for multimeter so I have checked on my lab psu and 30V was correctly showing as 30mV. So it's likely the voltage coming from the multiplier is too low unless the voltmeter impedance despite being so high could drop it down? Brightness settings both total and B have basically no effect what so ever. They do something but very fine adjustment only. Fan isn't spinning, any replacement ideas? Channel 2 1x LED doesn't work The 1M/50Ohm illumination doesn't work The 10x and 100x works ok There was a tantalum in the ch2 attenuator 22uF/15V I replaced because it had a head blown off but it didn't really change anything. I tested around U80 and shorted the pins associated with lightbulb for 1M/50 and reset lightbulb and pin associated with 1x diode and it looks like these are faulty because they don't light up and there is correct 5V on the other side. Overall the picture probably could be adjusted to be rather nice and sharp if the brightness could be turned down and the ghost images resolved. Appreciate if those who been through 485 before could give me some heads up what to look at first and where to look to solve the issues. P. S. It's got 7 small knobs missing, anybody happen to have some spare parts donor? |
Re: Broke my TDS3000B
David,
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Take a look at the EEVBLOG two-part video at: Dave tries to fix a TDS3054 with a single bad channel that has problems at the same sample rate breakpoint you are seeing. (He never solves the problem, but his work and the comments may lead you to a better understanding of which chips do what.) --John Gord On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 02:47 AM, David C. Partridge wrote:
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