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Re: Tektronix TDS684A

 

I'm not in California, in fact, about as far away in the US as you can get from there.

However, I've worked a bit on TDSS540 scopes, and I have a TDS640 as well.

Things to know:

1) the only high voltage is in two places, inside the power supply (should be more or less shielded), and inside the monitor (should be shielded as well).

Most other voltages are at the class 2 (less than 24 or so volts) level.

2) these power supplies are similar, but not as well documented as you'd like.? It sounds a bit like a power supply problem until you check all the voltages and know it isn't.

3) some scopes of the era (and type) have a known capacitor problem.? Try inspecting each capacitor on the boards (not the PS board, that's another animal) for dull looking leads or any sign of leakage.? I'd suggest that you look for threads about the TDS series which will cover various issues about some capacitors. There's a self test capability (at least in mine) on the CPU board which runs through a number of tests, with the pass/fail indication being on a 7 segment readout.? It should hang (with the right switch settings) on a failing test.? That'll give you an idea if the CPU is failing.

Further than this, I can't help too much, there are people here who have done a lot more work on these than I have.

Harvey

On 1/11/2021 7:19 PM, Thomas Dodge wrote:
Hi,
I emailed about this before. I have a Tektronix TDS 684A scope, and it is
in very good condition, and it was almost working, but now it is not. I
bought it from a surplus place, and I had seen it every time I came into
the place. When I took it home the first time, and powered it on, it didn't
do anything. But after a while, the panel lights came on, and it did run
the self test. When I powered it on recently, the panel lights power on,
but no self test at all. I want to know how to fix this. I do have the
manual, but I would like to work together with someone who is local in my
area who is more experienced than I am. I could just send it off to be
repaired, but that would be no fun for me. I have a couple other Tektronix
scopes that are not working too. Does anyone know who is around my area? I
am in California, in the San Gabriel Valley area in Glendora. I want to
learn how to fix these when problems come up. I am well aware of the high
voltage that is present here, so that's why I am asking. Any help is
appreciated. Thanks very much.

Thomas Dodge





Tektronix TDS684A

 

Hi,
I emailed about this before. I have a Tektronix TDS 684A scope, and it is
in very good condition, and it was almost working, but now it is not. I
bought it from a surplus place, and I had seen it every time I came into
the place. When I took it home the first time, and powered it on, it didn't
do anything. But after a while, the panel lights came on, and it did run
the self test. When I powered it on recently, the panel lights power on,
but no self test at all. I want to know how to fix this. I do have the
manual, but I would like to work together with someone who is local in my
area who is more experienced than I am. I could just send it off to be
repaired, but that would be no fun for me. I have a couple other Tektronix
scopes that are not working too. Does anyone know who is around my area? I
am in California, in the San Gabriel Valley area in Glendora. I want to
learn how to fix these when problems come up. I am well aware of the high
voltage that is present here, so that's why I am asking. Any help is
appreciated. Thanks very much.

Thomas Dodge


Re: PM - Address Re: [TekScopes] I built a TM500 mainframe tester, and updated the design. Someone might find this useful?

 

Hi All!?Just today I found 4 custom assemblies here, built in TM-500 frames. One is missing the covers. They have a front panel that may be adaptables for the project. I would like 15.00 each for the ones with covers and $10 for the one without (good top & bottom rails plus the front panel. All plus postage. I can knock these down and ship flat in a flat rate box. PM me if anyone wants one.?I will try to send a pic later.?Jeff Kruth


1s1 on ebay

 

This looks pretty good. I don¡¯t know anything about the seller though.



Almost too good to be true.


Re: PM - Address Re: [TekScopes] I built a TM500 mainframe tester, and updated the design. Someone might find this useful?

 

Sorry, it was not suppose to go to the group....not sure what I did ...sometimes this client does what it wants! ( it has happened before, so some button/key on the keyboard sends and I guess i hit it as I type?)
It did go as a pm in another one so not sure what happened....I will do better/be more careful.
nuf said.....
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On 1/11/21 3:25 PM, Dave Daniel wrote:
Please send these emails privately. The list doesn¡¯t need to see hundreds of random emails containing addresses.

DaveD

On Jan 11, 2021, at 18:00, ¸é±ð²Ô¨¦±ð <k6fsb.1@...> wrote:

Hi Larry-
#17 ( after the EWs),
¸é±ð²Ô¨¦±ð Deeter
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Re: PM - Address Re: [TekScopes] I built a TM500 mainframe tester, and updated the design. Someone might find this useful?

 

Please send these emails privately. The list doesn¡¯t need to see hundreds of random emails containing addresses.

DaveD

On Jan 11, 2021, at 18:00, ¸é±ð²Ô¨¦±ð <k6fsb.1@...> wrote:

Hi Larry-
#17 ( after the EWs),
¸é±ð²Ô¨¦±ð Deeter
1200 Independence Rd.
Mokelumne Hill, CA 95245-9632

IF you need the phone 209-293-3129

I will await the request for funds.
Thank you for all your hard work and frustration.
¸é±ð²Ô¨¦±ð

On 1/11/21 2:50 PM, Larry McDavid wrote:
Folks, I'm closing this group purchase at this time; no additional requests will be accepted.

Please send me a private email with your postal mailing address; don't send this to the whole Group. If you live in the USA, include your full Zip+4 Zip code. If you don't know your full Zip code (why would you not?) you may find it here:



You should find my private email address in the header of this Group email. If not, use lmcdavid at lmceng dot com. Those "l" characters are the letter, "L."

Please check the list of initials shown below for your participation. I found some duplicate initials and have corrected that.

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On 12/31/2020 11:27 AM, Jared Cabot via groups.io wrote:
Hi all,

I have been accumulating TM500 modules and mainframes for a little while, so I recently finished building an 067-1201-99 TM500 mainframe tester from the Tek construction notes floating around.





PM - Address Re: [TekScopes] I built a TM500 mainframe tester, and updated the design. Someone might find this useful?

 

Hi Larry-
#17 ( after the EWs),
¸é±ð²Ô¨¦±ð Deeter
1200 Independence Rd.
Mokelumne Hill, CA 95245-9632

IF you need the phone 209-293-3129

I will await the request for funds.
Thank you for all your hard work and frustration.
¸é±ð²Ô¨¦±ð

On 1/11/21 2:50 PM, Larry McDavid wrote:
Folks, I'm closing this group purchase at this time; no additional requests will be accepted.

Please send me a private email with your postal mailing address; don't send this to the whole Group. If you live in the USA, include your full Zip+4 Zip code. If you don't know your full Zip code (why would you not?) you may find it here:



You should find my private email address in the header of this Group email. If not, use lmcdavid at lmceng dot com. Those "l" characters are the letter, "L."

Please check the list of initials shown below for your participation. I found some duplicate initials and have corrected that.

ML
ML
ML
PA
SM
DC
HB
GL
MH
JRe
WR
JT
EW
EW
EW
EW
RD
AW
SG
DS
JF
MU
PE
SN
SC
AAlt
BHu
EPa
WS
KT
RDD
PMu
GM
CC
BHe
BK
LR
MPe
MPe
MPe
SA
BG
JK
AAin
PTC
PD
BO
JG
EP
BL
CT
MD
RLG
CB
CH
DM
AD
JRa
JRa
CR
PM
SW
JW
DP
DG
HV
BH
EL
TP
TP
LM

Final pricing will follow.

Larry McDavid


On 12/31/2020 11:27 AM, Jared Cabot via groups.io wrote:
Hi all,

I have been accumulating TM500 modules and mainframes for a little while, so I recently finished building an 067-1201-99 TM500 mainframe tester from the Tek construction notes floating around.


Re: I built a TM500 mainframe tester, and updated the design. Someone might find this useful?

 

Folks, I'm closing this group purchase at this time; no additional requests will be accepted.

Please send me a private email with your postal mailing address; don't send this to the whole Group. If you live in the USA, include your full Zip+4 Zip code. If you don't know your full Zip code (why would you not?) you may find it here:



You should find my private email address in the header of this Group email. If not, use lmcdavid at lmceng dot com. Those "l" characters are the letter, "L."

Please check the list of initials shown below for your participation. I found some duplicate initials and have corrected that.

ML
ML
ML
PA
SM
DC
HB
GL
MH
JRe
WR
JT
EW
EW
EW
EW
RD
AW
SG
DS
JF
MU
PE
SN
SC
AAlt
BHu
EPa
WS
KT
RDD
PMu
GM
CC
BHe
BK
LR
MPe
MPe
MPe
SA
BG
JK
AAin
PTC
PD
BO
JG
EP
BL
CT
MD
RLG
CB
CH
DM
AD
JRa
JRa
CR
PM
SW
JW
DP
DG
HV
BH
EL
TP
TP
LM

Final pricing will follow.

Larry McDavid

On 12/31/2020 11:27 AM, Jared Cabot via groups.io wrote:
Hi all,
I have been accumulating TM500 modules and mainframes for a little while, so I recently finished building an 067-1201-99 TM500 mainframe tester from the Tek construction notes floating around.
--
Best wishes,

Larry McDavid W6FUB
Anaheim, California (SE of Los Angeles, near Disneyland)


Re: DSA602A parts available

 

Not sure what you mean, the floppy disk drive? That is available, still in its mount.
What do you mean by surroundings?


Re: SC-502 transistor

 

One question & one observation.
Question: Did you verify that there are no short circuits loading any of the transformers secondaries?
Observation: If the transformer in determined to be bad, there's at least one SC502 being parted out on eBay. You might inquire about the availability of a good transformer for purposes of transplant.

Thomas Garson
Aural Technology, Ashland, OR
By my calculation, the dynamic range of the universe is roughly 679dB,
which is approximately 225 bits, collected at a rate 1.714287514x10^23 sps.

On 1/11/21 1:23 AM, Giovanni Carboni wrote:
The final outcome is negative. Fried Q855 twice, The HV supply won't oscillate and draws a lot of current that
quickly destroys Q555. I give up.
RIP SC502
Giovanni IZ5PQT


Re: New (to me) 2465 Power On State

 

Thanks Siggi, that did the trick. I'm glad that I did not have to open it up and set a jumper.

I was a bit worried about this scope, as I've heard sob stories about blown custom ASICs on the main board, and the dent in the case spoke to serious mishandling of the unit, but it seems to be in pretty good condition. It came with the pouch attached, but no face cover, which I gather is hard to come by, especially for a unit with the DMM option. I cut a cover from packing foam so that I could stand the unit on its face without damagin the knobs.

I've downloaded the manuals (man, there are a lot of them: I've got a 2465 DMS which has almost all the options, so two manuals per option as well as the scope's operators and service manuals) and will familiarize myself with them before asking more questions.

-- Jeff Dutky


Re: Tek 576 step generator problem

 

Hi Jack, my measurements. Is normal, try to put a 10 k resistor

/g/TekScopes/photo/94656/0?p=Name,,,20,1,0,0

Max voltage in current mode seems 13V aprox., above this voltage constant current mode is not working.

Regards!

-----Mensaje original-----
De: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] En nombre de Jack2015
Enviado el: lunes, 11 de enero de 2021 17:44
Para: [email protected]
Asunto: Re: [TekScopes] Tek 576 step generator problem


Step-Amplitude: .5V (no resistor)

The staircase looks ok! it's not broken trace issue.
The design of step generator circuit is different between 576 and 577.
In case of 577 the traces synchronize with the collector supply
4 traces per period(one trace per 90 degree).
This could be seen by the timing between collector supply and staircase.
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Hope it helps.

Jack











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Re: I built a TM500 mainframe tester, and updated the design. Someone might find this useful?

 

Larry,
Do you have my name on the list too?


Re: I built a TM500 mainframe tester, and updated the design. Someone might find this useful?

 

Yes, I have your name on the list as RG; I'll change it to RLG.

Larry

On 1/10/2021 10:49 PM, momemeca wrote:
Hello Larry,
I would like to check, once more, that I am definitely included as I do not (explicitly) see my initials on your latest list.
Given my French name in two words, my initials should be "RLG" and not "RG" or "RL").
Please confirm, and (possibly) amend.
Cheers,
Rick (from AUS).
--
Best wishes,

Larry McDavid W6FUB
Anaheim, California (SE of Los Angeles, near Disneyland)


Re: SC-502 transistor

 

The final outcome is negative. Fried Q855 twice, The HV supply won't oscillate
and draws a lot of current that
quickly destroys Q855. I give up.
Hi Giovanni,

I would be interested to try to debug and repair it.
Would you be willing to ship it to France (I'll pay of course)?
Thank you.

Best regards,


Re: New (to me) 2465 Power On State

 

On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 3:25 PM Jeff Dutky <jeff.dutky@...> wrote:

Is the instrument always supposed to start up in diagnostic mode? Do I
need to do something to take it out of diagnostic mode?
I believe if you run "CYCLE ERROR CLEAR", which is "Exerciser 3" on a 2465,
you'll clear the error and go directly to operating mode on startup in the
future.


Re: I built a TM500 mainframe tester, and updated the design. Someone might find this useful?

 

Folks, don't send me money for tester board sets yet! Stop it, really!

Final pricing of the boards in the higher quantity now needed has made re-quote necessary. But, I expect the cost for the board sets to actually go down. I'll post to TekScopes and Tek500 when I have final costs.

But, I gotta tell you, this is getting complicated! We now have requests for this set of circuit boards from US, Canada, Australia, UK, Spain, Germany, Ireland and Romania. I have post office postage prices only for UK and Australia; I'll spot check a few others but I hope to use just one or two average postage costs for international shipments.

Larry

On 12/31/2020 11:27 AM, Jared Cabot via groups.io wrote:
Hi all,
I have been accumulating TM500 modules and mainframes for a little while, so I recently finished building an 067-1201-99 TM500 mainframe tester from the Tek construction notes floating around.
--
Best wishes,

Larry McDavid W6FUB
Anaheim, California (SE of Los Angeles, near Disneyland)


New (to me) 2465 Power On State

 

I just got a 2465 in pretty good condition (one sharp dent in the case, a broken corner on the rear bezel, disintegrated rear cord-wrap feet, and a bent shaft on the SEC/DIV VAR knob) but after a bit of struggling, an application of pliers, and some minor metal work, it's almost as good as new. I ran through a bunch of functions, somewhat haphazardly, and checked that I could see traces on all four channels, all of which seemed to work, within the limits of my equipment and skill. The main SEC/DIV knob seems to have some trouble when setting a delayed sweep more than a few positions in advance of the main sweep, but I haven't investigated enough to really understand what's happening.

When I first got it it would show a diagonal line on the screen on power up with the messages "DIAGNOSTIC. PUSH A/B TRIG TO EXIT" and "CT TEST 81 FAIL 03 BU<F110>". When I opened it up I found a cable had been rudely disconnected from the control board (J502 which transmits some EAROM signals to the option boards). I straightened the bent pins and reconnected the cable before addressing the dented case and reassembling the unit. When it was reassembled it still showed the diagonal line on the screen, but now the message at the bottom of the screen reads "ALL 00 PASS BU<F110>".

Is the instrument always supposed to start up in diagnostic mode? Do I need to do something to take it out of diagnostic mode?

-- Jeff Dutky


7633 no high voltage -1475V on test point

 

I just repaired the time base 7B53A and a new problem appears.
An acrid smell came from the oscilloscope so decide to test the scope
for 3 hours and the trace and readout disappeared. I measured the low
voltages and are all ok but is missing the high voltage (-1475V) on the test point.
Where is the problem?
Fabio


Re: Tek 576 step generator problem

 

I will check it later with mine


-----Mensaje original-----
De: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] En nombre de Dave S.
Enviado el: lunes, 11 de enero de 2021 19:23
Para: [email protected]
Asunto: Re: [TekScopes] Tek 576 step generator problem

Hi,

thanks for ur help!

What about the 50uA and 100uA (.1mA) waveform with the 100k paralell? Maybe you can check it on your 577 or someone else could check it on a 576 if it looks strange aswell.
Thank you!

David







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