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Off Topic: Wanted Spectracom 8212 Chart Recorder Manual

 

I have a set of Spectracom WWV receiver TM500 plugins. I have manuals for
most of them but I am missing the manual for the dual wide 8212 Chart
Recorder.



This recorder uses two slots in a Tek TM5xx or TM5xxx mainframe. It receives
a 0-1mA DC signal from the 8150 Precision Phase Comparator Aux Output front
panel jack or the rear interface connector. It uses MP00025 Chart Paper.



I searched google with no success. I have done google searches over the
years in hopes that a manual might show up also with no success.



The only marking of any kind inside the unit is a little paper label
attached to the motor that that drives the chart paper. It says D-7710
Donaueschingen Stegmann and it lists the voltage the motor works on
3512-250/110V/60Hz. This is somewhat mysterious since the TM mainframes do
not supply 110V on any of their connector pins. and this chart recorder
works in any TM mainframe. I'm not sure how they do that but a manual or
schematic should explain it.



Thanks in advance,

Dennis Tillman W7PF


Re: OT: AT5005 spectrum analyzer display

 

Can you see the CRT part number ?

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Ed Breya via Groups.Io <edbreya@...> 於 2018年6月11日 上午12:58 寫道:

I picked up this 500 MHz SA for cheap, because the CRT display is very dim, although it appears to work otherwise. I was hoping that some internal adjustments would fix it right up, but no. The unit is labelled Atten Instruments, model AT5005, and appears to be a Chines knockoff of the Hameg HM5005 - or maybe they're all made in China anyway. I couldn't find a manual for it, but did find the one for Hameg 5010, which includes schematics and more. It looks like the basic units are the same, especially the PS and CRT circuits, so I have what I need to check it out eventually. This is low priority, but it could be a handy toy SA for limited field use and such - it's definitely more portable than the good old real SAs I'm used to.

Just wondering if anyone happens to be familiar with this unit and common problems with it, to maybe find a quick fix. I haven't made any of the usual internal checks yet. One thing I noticed is that the focus adjustment needs to be at one extreme for a sharp, but barely visible display. I'm guessing there's something wrong in the CRT HV circuits, rather than the CRT having gone bad - unless that's one of the common problems with these.

Ed



Re: 575 - advice sought from owners

 

Holy Formatting Failure Batman...... :-(

I uploaded the original spreadsheet here:

/g/TekScopes/files/Tektronix%20575%20Parts


On Sun, Jun 10, 2018 at 6:43 PM, David Holland
<david.w.holland@...> wrote:
For the PTM caps, in general, I used Mallory 630V polyester film caps
from from Mouser.. I restuffed the electrolytic cans.

I *think* this is the parts list I used when I restored the
non-Mod122... If anyone uses it, please double check the parts, I
sometimes make last minute substitutions, that may not have made it
back into the spreadsheet.

(Yes, I shot-gunned all EMC, and PTM capacitors and one cap I thought
might of been a Micamold (paper) cap.)

Identifier Capacitance Type Voltage Tolerance Part #
C102 .047uf PTM 400v 539-150473J630EC
0.66 Mallory Polyester Film Capacitors 630V .047uF 5%
C105 .047uf PTM 400v 539-150473J630EC
0.66 Mallory Polyester Film Capacitors 630V .047uF 5%
C108 .047uf PTM 400v 539-150473J630EC
0.66 Mallory Polyester Film Capacitors 630V .047uF 5%
C122 .047uf PTM 400v 539-150473J630EC
0.66 Mallory Polyester Film Capacitors 630V .047uF 5%

C128 .047uf PTM 400v 539-150473J630EC
0.66 Mallory Polyester Film Capacitors 630V .047uF 5%
C130 .047uf PTM 400v 539-150473J630EC
0.66 Mallory Polyester Film Capacitors 630V .047uF 5%
C145 .0015uf Mica (mold) 500v 10.00% 5982-19-500V1500P
1.86 Cornell Dubilier Mica Capacitors MICA 1500pF
500V 5%

C186 .022uf PTM 400v 539-150223J630DB
0.54 Mallory Polyester Film Capacitors 630V .022uF 5%
C232 .001uf PTM 600v 539-150102K630BB
0.41 Mallory Polyester Film Capacitors 630V .001uF 10%
C240 2000uf EMC 20v 661-EKMGG250ELL222MK
1.32 United Chemi-Con Aluminum Electrolytic Capacitors -
Leaded 25volts 2200uF 12.5X25
C241 2000uf EMC 20v 661-EKMGG250ELL222MK
1.32 United Chemi-Con Aluminum Electrolytic Capacitors -
Leaded 25volts 2200uF 12.5X25

C242 2000uf EMC 20v 661-EKMGG250ELL222MK
1.32 United Chemi-Con Aluminum Electrolytic Capacitors -
Leaded 25volts 2200uF 12.5X25
C243 2000uf EMC 20v 661-EKMGG250ELL222MK
1.32 United Chemi-Con Aluminum Electrolytic Capacitors -
Leaded 25volts 2200uF 12.5X25
C244 150uf EMC 150v 661-EKXG251ELL151MM2
2.01 United Chemi-Con Aluminum Electrolytic Capacitors -
Leaded 250volts 150uF 18X25
C267 .001uf 600v 539-150102K630BB
0.41 Mallory

C602 2 x 20uf EMC 450v 647-UVY2W220MHD (20uF)
1.14 Nichicon Aluminum Electrolytic Capacitors - Leaded
450volts 22uF 12.5x25 20% 5LS
C611A,B 2 x 20uf EMC 450v 647-UPZ2W390MHD (39uF)
1.48 Nichicon Aluminum Electrolytic Capacitors - Leaded
450volts 39uF 12.5X35.5 20%
C613 .01uf PTM 400v 539-150103K630BB
0.48 Mallory Polyester Film Capacitors 630V .01uF 10%
C620 125uf EMC 350v 647-UPT2G121MHD 2.05
Nichicon Aluminum Electrolytic Capacitors - Leaded 400volts
120uF 16X40 20%

C630 .01uf PTM 400v 539-150103K630BB
0.48 Mallory Polyester Film Capacitors 630V .01uF 10%
C641 2 x 20uf EMC 450v 647-UVY2W220MHD
1.14 Nichicon Aluminum Electrolytic Capacitors - Leaded
450volts 22uF 12.5x25 20% 5LS
C644 .01uf PTM 400v 539-150103K630BB
0.48 Mallory Polyester Film Capacitors 630V .01uF 10%
C655 .01uf PTM 400v 539-150103K630BB
0.48 Mallory Polyester Film Capacitors 630V .01uF 10%
C666 2 x 20uf EMC 450v 647-UVY2W220MHD
1.14 Nichicon Aluminum Electrolytic Capacitors - Leaded
450volts 22uF 12.5x25 20% 5LS

C802 .001uf PTM 600v 539-150102K630BB
0.41 Mallory Polyester Film Capacitors 630V .001uF 10%
C808 .01uf PTM 600v 539-150103K630BB
0.48 Mallory Polyester Film Capacitors 630V .01uF 10%
C809 .001uf PTM 600v 539-150102K630BB
0.41 Mallory Polyester Film Capacitors 630V .001uF 10%

C811 .047uf PTM 600v 10.00% 539-150473J630EC
0.66 Mallory Polyester Film Capacitors 630V .047uF 5%
C816 .022uf PTM 600v 539-150223J630DB
0.54 Mallory Polyester Film Capacitors 630V .022uF 5%


David


On Sun, Jun 10, 2018 at 6:25 PM, tom jobe <tomjobe@...> wrote:
Hi David,
What type of capacitors do you suggest replacing the 575 paper caps with,
and where do you buy them?
Thank you to all that have contributed to this 575 topic!
tom jobe...

On 6/10/2018 3:17 PM, David Holland wrote:

There are a number of paper capacitors in the HV section. (Amongst other
locations). I'm sure folks will disagree, but I'd recommend preemptively
replacing them. (Any capacitor described as PTM in the parts list is
paper.)

Be careful with C809, if you decide to replace it, its soldered directly
across T801. The wires for the transformer, which will likely come out
with the capacitor, are (very) fine.

David

Obligatory: If anyone wants a non-Mod122C, and is in the Dayton Ohio
area,
and is willing to pick it up, holler. It has been restored, and was
running last I tried it. (No, I will not ship, sorry)

On Sun, Jun 10, 2018 at 5:23 PM, John <John@...> wrote:

Thanks for the advice guys: I do normally run stuff up on a variac, and I
will check those fuses are in place. Fortunately I have a supply of
many
of the valves used (and a valve-tester): fingers crossed it's not had all
the valves stripped!

John







Re: 575 - advice sought from owners

 

For the PTM caps, in general, I used Mallory 630V polyester film caps
from from Mouser.. I restuffed the electrolytic cans.

I *think* this is the parts list I used when I restored the
non-Mod122... If anyone uses it, please double check the parts, I
sometimes make last minute substitutions, that may not have made it
back into the spreadsheet.

(Yes, I shot-gunned all EMC, and PTM capacitors and one cap I thought
might of been a Micamold (paper) cap.)

Identifier Capacitance Type Voltage Tolerance Part #
C102 .047uf PTM 400v 539-150473J630EC
0.66 Mallory Polyester Film Capacitors 630V .047uF 5%
C105 .047uf PTM 400v 539-150473J630EC
0.66 Mallory Polyester Film Capacitors 630V .047uF 5%
C108 .047uf PTM 400v 539-150473J630EC
0.66 Mallory Polyester Film Capacitors 630V .047uF 5%
C122 .047uf PTM 400v 539-150473J630EC
0.66 Mallory Polyester Film Capacitors 630V .047uF 5%

C128 .047uf PTM 400v 539-150473J630EC
0.66 Mallory Polyester Film Capacitors 630V .047uF 5%
C130 .047uf PTM 400v 539-150473J630EC
0.66 Mallory Polyester Film Capacitors 630V .047uF 5%
C145 .0015uf Mica (mold) 500v 10.00% 5982-19-500V1500P
1.86 Cornell Dubilier Mica Capacitors MICA 1500pF
500V 5%

C186 .022uf PTM 400v 539-150223J630DB
0.54 Mallory Polyester Film Capacitors 630V .022uF 5%
C232 .001uf PTM 600v 539-150102K630BB
0.41 Mallory Polyester Film Capacitors 630V .001uF 10%
C240 2000uf EMC 20v 661-EKMGG250ELL222MK
1.32 United Chemi-Con Aluminum Electrolytic Capacitors -
Leaded 25volts 2200uF 12.5X25
C241 2000uf EMC 20v 661-EKMGG250ELL222MK
1.32 United Chemi-Con Aluminum Electrolytic Capacitors -
Leaded 25volts 2200uF 12.5X25

C242 2000uf EMC 20v 661-EKMGG250ELL222MK
1.32 United Chemi-Con Aluminum Electrolytic Capacitors -
Leaded 25volts 2200uF 12.5X25
C243 2000uf EMC 20v 661-EKMGG250ELL222MK
1.32 United Chemi-Con Aluminum Electrolytic Capacitors -
Leaded 25volts 2200uF 12.5X25
C244 150uf EMC 150v 661-EKXG251ELL151MM2
2.01 United Chemi-Con Aluminum Electrolytic Capacitors -
Leaded 250volts 150uF 18X25
C267 .001uf 600v 539-150102K630BB
0.41 Mallory

C602 2 x 20uf EMC 450v 647-UVY2W220MHD (20uF)
1.14 Nichicon Aluminum Electrolytic Capacitors - Leaded
450volts 22uF 12.5x25 20% 5LS
C611A,B 2 x 20uf EMC 450v 647-UPZ2W390MHD (39uF)
1.48 Nichicon Aluminum Electrolytic Capacitors - Leaded
450volts 39uF 12.5X35.5 20%
C613 .01uf PTM 400v 539-150103K630BB
0.48 Mallory Polyester Film Capacitors 630V .01uF 10%
C620 125uf EMC 350v 647-UPT2G121MHD 2.05
Nichicon Aluminum Electrolytic Capacitors - Leaded 400volts
120uF 16X40 20%

C630 .01uf PTM 400v 539-150103K630BB
0.48 Mallory Polyester Film Capacitors 630V .01uF 10%
C641 2 x 20uf EMC 450v 647-UVY2W220MHD
1.14 Nichicon Aluminum Electrolytic Capacitors - Leaded
450volts 22uF 12.5x25 20% 5LS
C644 .01uf PTM 400v 539-150103K630BB
0.48 Mallory Polyester Film Capacitors 630V .01uF 10%
C655 .01uf PTM 400v 539-150103K630BB
0.48 Mallory Polyester Film Capacitors 630V .01uF 10%
C666 2 x 20uf EMC 450v 647-UVY2W220MHD
1.14 Nichicon Aluminum Electrolytic Capacitors - Leaded
450volts 22uF 12.5x25 20% 5LS

C802 .001uf PTM 600v 539-150102K630BB
0.41 Mallory Polyester Film Capacitors 630V .001uF 10%
C808 .01uf PTM 600v 539-150103K630BB
0.48 Mallory Polyester Film Capacitors 630V .01uF 10%
C809 .001uf PTM 600v 539-150102K630BB
0.41 Mallory Polyester Film Capacitors 630V .001uF 10%

C811 .047uf PTM 600v 10.00% 539-150473J630EC
0.66 Mallory Polyester Film Capacitors 630V .047uF 5%
C816 .022uf PTM 600v 539-150223J630DB
0.54 Mallory Polyester Film Capacitors 630V .022uF 5%


David

On Sun, Jun 10, 2018 at 6:25 PM, tom jobe <tomjobe@...> wrote:
Hi David,
What type of capacitors do you suggest replacing the 575 paper caps with,
and where do you buy them?
Thank you to all that have contributed to this 575 topic!
tom jobe...

On 6/10/2018 3:17 PM, David Holland wrote:

There are a number of paper capacitors in the HV section. (Amongst other
locations). I'm sure folks will disagree, but I'd recommend preemptively
replacing them. (Any capacitor described as PTM in the parts list is
paper.)

Be careful with C809, if you decide to replace it, its soldered directly
across T801. The wires for the transformer, which will likely come out
with the capacitor, are (very) fine.

David

Obligatory: If anyone wants a non-Mod122C, and is in the Dayton Ohio
area,
and is willing to pick it up, holler. It has been restored, and was
running last I tried it. (No, I will not ship, sorry)

On Sun, Jun 10, 2018 at 5:23 PM, John <John@...> wrote:

Thanks for the advice guys: I do normally run stuff up on a variac, and I
will check those fuses are in place. Fortunately I have a supply of
many
of the valves used (and a valve-tester): fingers crossed it's not had all
the valves stripped!

John






Re: 575 - advice sought from owners

tom jobe
 

Hi David,
What type of capacitors do you suggest replacing the 575 paper caps with, and where do you buy them?
Thank you to all that have contributed to this 575 topic!
tom jobe...

On 6/10/2018 3:17 PM, David Holland wrote:
There are a number of paper capacitors in the HV section. (Amongst other
locations). I'm sure folks will disagree, but I'd recommend preemptively
replacing them. (Any capacitor described as PTM in the parts list is
paper.)

Be careful with C809, if you decide to replace it, its soldered directly
across T801. The wires for the transformer, which will likely come out
with the capacitor, are (very) fine.

David

Obligatory: If anyone wants a non-Mod122C, and is in the Dayton Ohio area,
and is willing to pick it up, holler. It has been restored, and was
running last I tried it. (No, I will not ship, sorry)

On Sun, Jun 10, 2018 at 5:23 PM, John <John@...> wrote:

Thanks for the advice guys: I do normally run stuff up on a variac, and I
will check those fuses are in place. Fortunately I have a supply of many
of the valves used (and a valve-tester): fingers crossed it's not had all
the valves stripped!

John




Just as modern as the day it came out

 

I got to thinking today, how a 7603, 7A18, 7B53A etc looks as modern and
'cool' as it did the day it came on the marked.

Same will all of 7K

-pete Proud of having been there for a few of my years


Re: 575 - advice sought from owners

 

There are a number of paper capacitors in the HV section. (Amongst other
locations). I'm sure folks will disagree, but I'd recommend preemptively
replacing them. (Any capacitor described as PTM in the parts list is
paper.)

Be careful with C809, if you decide to replace it, its soldered directly
across T801. The wires for the transformer, which will likely come out
with the capacitor, are (very) fine.

David

Obligatory: If anyone wants a non-Mod122C, and is in the Dayton Ohio area,
and is willing to pick it up, holler. It has been restored, and was
running last I tried it. (No, I will not ship, sorry)

On Sun, Jun 10, 2018 at 5:23 PM, John <John@...> wrote:

Thanks for the advice guys: I do normally run stuff up on a variac, and I
will check those fuses are in place. Fortunately I have a supply of many
of the valves used (and a valve-tester): fingers crossed it's not had all
the valves stripped!

John




Re: Up to date capacitor list for Tek 2465A and 2465B scopes (2018)

 

Im happy to help.? Posting it caused me to verify several points in my list.? Let me know if you find more.? The most glaring problem I found was substituting some Nichicon for Panasonic and not changing the "Type" column.

On ?Sunday?, ?June? ?10?, ?2018? ?03?:?26?:?36? ?PM? ?CDT, Timothy via Groups.Io <mustang_gt_y2k@...> wrote:

On Sun, Jun 10, 2018 at 09:57 am, machineguy59 wrote:


I believe you are asking for this:
/g/TekScopes/files/Caps%20list%20updated%20March%202018.xlsx
Thank you, You deserve a medal!


Re: 575 - advice sought from owners

 

Thanks for the advice guys: I do normally run stuff up on a variac, and I will check those fuses are in place. Fortunately I have a supply of many of the valves used (and a valve-tester): fingers crossed it's not had all the valves stripped!

John


Re: Help needed with no trace no beamfinder on 465 (not b)

 

Replacing the fuse with an ammeter I read 120mA.


Re: 575 - advice sought from owners

 

Hi John:

Before you fire your 575 up check that there are fuses in series with pins 14 and 16 (two fuses). I had a short in C244 which did not draw enough current to pop F601. The short overheated power transformer T601 until it shorted internally, it was toast.. I was lucky enough to find a replacement transformer for $125. The service manual states that the fuses were present on serial numbers X8030 and above. If you need to install them on your 575 here is what I did. I removed the two 6-32 screws on the front and interior side of T601 and installed fuse holders using slightly longer screws. Then I wired pins 14 to one and pin 16 to the other one and the original wires going to these pins to the load side of the fuses.

I also installed modern electrolytic caps in place of C602, C611A&B, C620, C240, C241, C242, C243, C244, C641, C666A&B using standoff terminals. I left the disconnected chassis mount electrolytic caps in place for aesthetic purposes and put all the axial caps underneath the chassis. I found that the heater of V602 was open so I left the tube in place and wired in two 1N4007 diodes. V642 was OK so I left it alone. I increased the rated voltage on each cap I replaced by at least a factor of 2.

Good luck with your new 575. They are a remarkable piece of test equipment and well worth the investment of time and resources to maintain them.

Reed Dickinson
reed714@...

On 6/10/2018 9:04 AM, John wrote:
I've just bought (but not yet collected) a 575, I think the 400V option. I suspect it's been stored several years unused. This will be my first piece of Tek valve kit (apart from a 130). Is there an informaiton resource for 575's which gives pointers to particular isues/ problems etc? Am I likely to have any EHT transformer worries? etc. etc.
Many thanks
John



Re: Up to date capacitor list for Tek 2465A and 2465B scopes (2018)

 

On Sun, Jun 10, 2018 at 09:57 am, machineguy59 wrote:


I believe you are asking for this:
/g/TekScopes/files/Caps%20list%20updated%20March%202018.xlsx
Thank you, You deserve a medal!


Re: Up to date capacitor list for Tek 2465A and 2465B scopes (2018)

 

On Sun, Jun 10, 2018 at 01:18 am, David C. Partridge wrote:


Timothy, What's with the multiple copies of your messages - it's tedious
seeing seven copies of the same post!
I am sorry, I was not aware that editing a message caused this. I will refrain from doing so in the future.


Re: Help needed with no trace no beamfinder on 465 (not b)

 

Perfect Keith.
This clearly shows that Q1416 is always in saturation and that CR1416 never conducts (is even reverse biased).
Hence I think the fault is not in the regulator circuits.
You might measure the average collector current of Q1418 with an ammeter in series with the fuse. For a good Q1418 I expect some 0.2 - 0.3 A. Note that Tek's spec of current gain 20 is for large collector current, 3 A. The absolute and differential gain decrease dramatically when collector current increases. At small current a gain of 100-150 is well possible.
When the collector current is in the range I mentioned then I expect a fault further on. Though the Ft of Q1418 might have suffered for some reason and this transistor is the culprit. The 2N3055 may also have been replaced by a PO, who knows. It seems that not all 2N3055 makes/types work satisfactory in this application. But your HV did work before and failed suddenly.

Albert


Thank you Albert. I put the scope in dc coupling and centered it. Needed to
adjust the scope to .5V/div in order to keep the same gain for comparison.

Here are the waveforms:

/g/TekScopes/photo/49286/9?p=Name,,,20,1,0,0

Collector is a hair more than emitter, base is a little more than twice the dc
bias, as you say about 0.65V.

Is that the correct way?

Keith


Re: Tek 465B blurred channel 1 trace

 
Edited

Even with as out of spec as the PSU is I have been getting intermittent traces on the screen and one of the two traces was pretty clean. The last time I turned it on I heard a pop and shut it off quickly. When I turned it back on the traces had returned but things were different. There was a significant amount of noise/distortion on both traces. Trace 1 was blurry but not as blurry as before and trace 2 now shows equal blur. Then the traces faded again. I could not locate and visibly damage components on the external boards. Prior to this I did swap out the .0047 6kv paper cap with one from a 468B because I thought it was reading bad out of circuit. Im not sure if its related since newer part was identical.

I am going to get a second 465B that I can use to compare readings on components with to help me isolate the issues. This way I dont have to pull parts off of boards to test as much.

It seems there are at least two faults I need to deal with. And eventually I believe I will have to recap the PSU and maybe more.


Extenders Ready for Shipping

 

I have parts for extender kits on hand (for TM500 / TM5000). I have been emailing people that are on my wait list, but if you haven't heard from me and would like a kit please contact me off list.
Kits are $22 plus $7 shipping (CONUS) but I will ship internationally also.
If you want a fully built kit please purchase from Amazon ($45 plus shipping).

If anyone is in the UK, a group member has offered to handle re-shipment to reduce import taxes or whatever you get hit with over there. So if you have a UK address, let me know if you are okay with this arrangement and I'll put you in touch with the guy in the UK.

Thanks
dan


Re: Help needed with no trace no beamfinder on 465 (not b)

 
Edited

Thank you Albert. I put the scope in dc coupling and centered it. Needed to adjust the scope to .5V/div in order to keep the same gain for comparison.

Here are the waveforms:

/g/TekScopes/photo/49286/9?p=Name,,,20,1,0,0

Collector is a hair more than emitter, base is a little more than twice the dc bias, as you say about 0.65V.

Is that the correct way?

Keith


Re: Help needed with no trace no beamfinder on 465 (not b)

 

Hi Keith,

A waveform is not complete without an indication of DC levels. When Q1416 is all the time in saturation, then the 3 waveforms will look identical, but the base waveform will be at about 0.65-0.7 V more positive level than the other two. Could you please give DC levels (such as waveform top and bottom DC levels) of all waveforms?

Albert

On Sun, Jun 10, 2018 at 10:12 am, Keith Ostertag wrote:


I spent some time going over the circuit around Q1416, and made a photo with
the various components labeled here:

/g/TekScopes/photo/49286/6?p=Name,,,20,1,0,0

in case someone sees that I've misidentified something.

I looked at the waveform at Q1416-collector as Albert suggested, and took this
photo:

/g/TekScopes/photo/49286/7?p=Name,,,20,1,0,0

But when I then also looked at the base and emitter, the waveforms are exactly
the same (!). I thought... uh.. probably means Q1416 is bad (despite being
tested good on a diode checker), so I hunted around and found a replacement
from my 464 (which also has a dead CRT circuit). Same results. Then I thought,
well... could be that one is bad as well, so I just put in another new
PN2222... and got the same results.

So, what's going on here? I had previously replaced C1419 with that small
electrolytic you see in the photo.

While I was at it I figured I better photo the waveforms at Q1418, here:

/g/TekScopes/photo/49286/8?p=Name,,,20,1,0,0


Re: 575 - advice sought from owners

 

Ho John,
Congratulations on getting the 575 400V version (575 Mod 122C).
You should search through the archives for advice on bringing up older vacuum tube instruments carefully to allow the electrolytic caps time to reform. That is the most important thing you should do.

The HV circuitry is sensitive to moisture so if the 575 was stored in a damp place you will need to dry the HV parts by baking them, This can be done with a small heater in some kind of enclosure that will retain the heat. It does not have to be very hot (100F to 125F) but you should allow at least a week if you think the HV circuits got damp.

Finally once you feel ready to turn the 575 on use a Variac and bring the voltage up gradually watching the current draw. If you put a lamp bulb in series it will act as an indicator and prevent the 575 from suddenly drawing too much current.

These are some of the tricks of the trade that other members have taught me over the years.

Dennis Tillman W7PF

-----Original Message-----
From: John Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 9:04 AM

I've just bought (but not yet collected) a 575, I think the 400V
option. I suspect it's been stored several years unused. This will be
my first piece of Tek valve kit (apart from a 130). Is there an
informaiton resource for 575's which gives pointers to particular
isues/ problems etc? Am I likely to have any EHT transformer worries?
etc. etc.
Many thanks
John



--
Dennis Tillman W7PF
TekScopes Moderator


Re: Tek 7a13 mechanical to LED display conversion ? / 7ct1n user notes ?

 

Hi Rick,

The brilliant designers of the 7000 series made sure all of the slots were "generic". In other words the slot doesn't care whether you put a horizontal or vertical type plugin in it. There is nothing in the backplane that distinguishes a horizontal slot from a vertical slot and there is nothing that informs a plugin what kind of slot it is in.

By design the signals coming from the two vertical slots will go to the vertical amplifier and result in a vertical (Y axis) deflection on the CRT. The one (in a 3 wide mainframe) or two (in a four wide mainframe) horizontal slot(s) will go to the horizontal amplifier and result in a horizontal (X axis) deflection on the CRT.

In the case of the 7CT1N you can put it in any slot as long as you tell the plugin whether it was a horizontal or vertical slot that you put it in. Which type of slot (Vertical or Horizontal) you put it in requires an AMPLIFIER to go in the opposite type of slot (Horizontal or Vertical) to create the deflection on the other axis. The gain of this amplifier should be set to 50mV/Div.

There are a few timebases that have an amplifier input (7B50, 7B50A, 7B53A, 7B70, 7B80 Option 2) but the gain is not variable over a very wide range so you would be better using the 7A13 in the horizontal slot (set to 50mV/Div) and have the 7CT1N in a vertical slot.

Dennis Tillman W7PF

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Dennis Tillman W7PF
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2018 8:14 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Tek 7a13 mechanical to LED display conversion
? / 7ct1n user notes ?

Rick,

Download the 7D13 mechanical version manual and the 7D13 digital
version manual and look at the very first section of the manuals where
there is a detailed photograph with callouts that show where
everything is located on the front panel. Aside from the mechanical
readout and it's knob everything else is exactly the same and in the
same place. Vc Out is in the same place on both versions also.

Then read the section on First time use to learn how to set the 7A13
up. The only thing you might want to change is to set the + input to
DC, ground the - input, Set the bandwidth to 5MHz, set the Volts/Div
knob to 50mV/Div and un-calibrate the vertical Volts/Div. Last thing
is to connect the 7CT1N wire to the + input of the 7A13. That is all
you need except to read how to setup the 7CT1N for the particular
transistor or FET you will be testing. To test a FET you must reverse
the Drain and Gate leads as the plugin clearly shows under the banana
jacks.

Dennis Tillman W7PF

-----Original Message-----
From: hrgerson@... Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2018 7:44 PM
To: [email protected]

<snip>
" ... The plug-in can still be used when the counter fails, by using
an external voltmeter to monitor the comparison voltage, Vc."

- So, on the old version, where is Vc to 'tap' into



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Dennis Tillman W7PF
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