Re: Strange Tek part Numbers in an AM503B. Can anyone identify them
A quick GOOGLE search shows several Tek hybrids which have 165- part numbers.
¡°The snake which cannot cast its skin has to die.¡±- Friedrich Nietzsche
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-----Original Message----- From: "Erik Hultine" [erik@...] Date: 19/05/2018 04:20 To: [email protected], dennis@... Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Strange Tek part Numbers in an AM503B. Can anyone identify them 160- were proms, ~1984 the available numbers were almost used up. 165- is probably a continuation. Pete Lancashire would know more and will most likely respond. Erik ¡°The snake which cannot cast its skin has to die.¡±- Friedrich Nietzsche -----Original Message----- From: "Dennis Tillman W7PF" [dennis@...] Date: 18/05/2018 23:29 To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Strange Tek part Numbers in an AM503B. Can anyone identify them My goal is to unlock the secret of how the AM503B works and ultimately to find the schematic, theory of operation, maintenance manual, etc. so we can finally fix the plugins. I am looking into the unusual parts in them at the moment and these 3 parts are the most puzzling. 1) 160-9569-02. My wild guess is it is a PROM holding a program. For what processor it might be I have no clue. 2) 165-2456-00. This is a Hypcon package from MAXTEK. I would guess it is the ASIC running everything that isn't in discrete transistors or TTL glue logic. I cannot find any reference to these two entire categories of parts: I have no parts catalogs that show 160-xxxx-yy or 165-xxxx-yy parts. I don't even know what a 160 or 165 part could be. Not even a wild guess. I don't even know if there is a catalog of those kinds of parts. Does anyone know? 3) Finally I have what looks to be a specialized microprocessor (wild ass guess). This would be an IMP (International Microelectronic Products) I10412-01. It is a 28 pin SOIC. They are no longer in business as near as I can tell. That isn't a Tek part. It is not a company I ever heard of. There is virtually no reference to it anywhere on the internet except it might be called a "daculator" (that is not a misprint as far as I know) and it might be related to a Tek 156-6224-00. All Microprocessor, TTL, special function, etc, etc chips start with 156-xxxx-yy but my Tek IC parts catalog stops around 156-3000-yy so I have no information on it.
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Re: Strange Tek part Numbers in an AM503B. Can anyone identify them
160- were proms, ~1984 the available numbers were almost used up. 165- is probably a continuation.
Pete Lancashire would know more and will most likely respond.
Erik
¡°The snake which cannot cast its skin has to die.¡±- Friedrich Nietzsche
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-----Original Message----- From: "Dennis Tillman W7PF" [dennis@...] Date: 18/05/2018 23:29 To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Strange Tek part Numbers in an AM503B. Can anyone identify them My goal is to unlock the secret of how the AM503B works and ultimately to find the schematic, theory of operation, maintenance manual, etc. so we can finally fix the plugins. I am looking into the unusual parts in them at the moment and these 3 parts are the most puzzling. 1) 160-9569-02. My wild guess is it is a PROM holding a program. For what processor it might be I have no clue. 2) 165-2456-00. This is a Hypcon package from MAXTEK. I would guess it is the ASIC running everything that isn't in discrete transistors or TTL glue logic. I cannot find any reference to these two entire categories of parts: I have no parts catalogs that show 160-xxxx-yy or 165-xxxx-yy parts. I don't even know what a 160 or 165 part could be. Not even a wild guess. I don't even know if there is a catalog of those kinds of parts. Does anyone know? 3) Finally I have what looks to be a specialized microprocessor (wild ass guess). This would be an IMP (International Microelectronic Products) I10412-01. It is a 28 pin SOIC. They are no longer in business as near as I can tell. That isn't a Tek part. It is not a company I ever heard of. There is virtually no reference to it anywhere on the internet except it might be called a "daculator" (that is not a misprint as far as I know) and it might be related to a Tek 156-6224-00. All Microprocessor, TTL, special function, etc, etc chips start with 156-xxxx-yy but my Tek IC parts catalog stops around 156-3000-yy so I have no information on it.
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Strange Tek part Numbers in an AM503B. Can anyone identify them
My goal is to unlock the secret of how the AM503B works and ultimately to
find the schematic, theory of operation, maintenance manual, etc. so we can
finally fix the plugins.
I am looking into the unusual parts in them at the moment and these 3 parts
are the most puzzling.
1) 160-9569-02. My wild guess is it is a PROM holding a program. For what
processor it might be I have no clue.
2) 165-2456-00. This is a Hypcon package from MAXTEK. I would guess it is
the ASIC running everything that isn't in discrete transistors or TTL glue
logic.
I cannot find any reference to these two entire categories of parts: I have
no parts catalogs that show 160-xxxx-yy or 165-xxxx-yy parts. I don't even
know what a 160 or 165 part could be. Not even a wild guess. I don't even
know if there is a catalog of those kinds of parts. Does anyone know?
3) Finally I have what looks to be a specialized microprocessor (wild ass
guess). This would be an IMP (International Microelectronic Products)
I10412-01. It is a 28 pin SOIC. They are no longer in business as near as I
can tell. That isn't a Tek part. It is not a company I ever heard of. There
is virtually no reference to it anywhere on the internet except it might be
called a "daculator" (that is not a misprint as far as I know) and it might
be related to a Tek 156-6224-00. All Microprocessor, TTL, special function,
etc, etc chips start with 156-xxxx-yy but my Tek IC parts catalog stops
around 156-3000-yy so I have no information on it.
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On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 09:32 am, lop pol wrote: Fabio. There is no way a simple 33 ohm resistor could cause that... pshhh...
HAHA. Nice job!!
/g/TekScopes/photo/49370/7?p=Name,,,20,1,0,0
/g/TekScopes/photo/49370/6?p=Name,,,20,1,0,0
Now I can put the old blocks back in and.... Wait until the next problem rolls
around. Remarkable! I never thought those little resistors could have such an effect, innocent-looking things that they are. Well done for tracking it down, and thank you for posting the result. I'll definitely bear this in mind if I see similar symptoms on my 7A26s. Chris
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Need an SG502 Frequency Dial and Knob
Anybody have a clean and un-cracked dial and knob for this TM500 sine generator (goes 0.5-5.0) ?
Mine is falling apart, and nothing suitable here as a spare, so I am hoping to find one out in
the tek-o-sphere somewhere.
also, my main computer exploded (seriously, with an actual bang) so I lost all my email contacts,
if you can, please take a moment to email me so I have your info again!
any help appreciated,
all the best,
walter (walter2 -at- sphere.bc.ca)
sphere research corp.
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Re: WTB - Front Cover For 485 Portable Scope
Hi Mike:
I have over 80 of the 485 scopes that I have bought on eBay over the years. Only one came with a front cover and I could not part with it. They do exist but I think hen's teeth are more plentiful.
Reed Dickinson
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On 5/18/2018 3:41 PM, Mike Harmon wrote: Does anyone have a front cover for a 485 portable scope that's surplus to your needs?
Thanks!
Mike Harmon, WB0LDJ
mharmon at att dot net
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WTB - Front Cover For 485 Portable Scope
Does anyone have a front cover for a 485 portable scope that's surplus to your needs?
Thanks!
Mike Harmon, WB0LDJ
mharmon at att dot net
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Re: FYI New In Box TM515 for $98.98 BIN UTAH
That was a genuine steal!
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Michael Lynch
Dardanelle, AR Almost my four word-class deals. A NIB very rare 7623B - this was a 7-day auction, and astonishingly no-one bid. So I got it for $100. Or the AA501 distortion analyser for $14 on BIN. My fingers were trembling as I stole that within a minute of it being listed. Or an R7603 - but with a 7L5 with tracking generator for UKP70 on BIN. Similar sweaty finger typing. And finally a 7912HB transient digitizer with plugins for $100. And I bought a NOS digitizer CRT (the internal one, as a spare) for another $50. Craig
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At the bottom of every post there is a button - "Reply". Clicking that gets you a window to type in and if you select the text in the post above it will be quoted and indented in your reply.
I can tell English is not your first language. No problem. Just do the best you can. English is easy to learn by using.
What kind of Tek scopes do you have ? We are always curious.
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One thing always puzzled me is why Tek insisted with those crappy carbon composite resistors for so
long. Allen-Bradley stopped making them in the early '93. Caused us no end of grief at Oxford Instruments (where I worked at that time), where we used them as low-cost cryogenic temperature sensors, needing several thousand of a particular value each year. When AB discontinued them, we bought up as much global stock as we could get our paws on. Given that they must eventually have run out by now, I have no idea what they currently use. Craig
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One thing always puzzled me is why Tek insisted with those crappy carbon composite resistors for so
long.
Almost into the eighties they were still using those things, while I can't hardly remember having
seen
carbon composite resistors in any consumer electronics that I was already playing around in the 70s.
I can't remember a single tape-deck or amplifier from the 70s (transistor of course) that would have
carbon composite resistors inside! Low self inductance. It is a simple carbon-loaded rod. Whereas metal film resistors are usually spiral cut and have a measurable inductance. You can easily measure this effect on an RF bridge. Craig
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Re: FYI New In Box TM515 for $98.98 BIN UTAH
That was a genuine steal!
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Michael Lynch
Dardanelle, AR
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Re: FYI New In Box TM515 for $98.98 BIN UTAH
Yup - that went quick!
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Subject: [TekScopes] FYI New In Box TM515 for $98.98 BIN UTAH
"New Tektronix TM 515 Power Module NSN: 6625010394697
Item is new and taken out of box for pictures ONLY
Item comes with both unused original manuals"
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Re: vintageTEK Museum Microfiche FINANCIAL help
Target reached !!! :-D
Now I will poll the VintageTek website every day until I see them unpack their little scanner and start playing with it, can't wait ! ^^
Vincent Trouilliez
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Re: RPR Conversion from Microfiche to OCR'ed PDF...............
On Fri, 18 May 2018, TomC wrote: So we have reached the goal. Good to know, hope it would benefit everyone. Donations now at $6040. Time for them to start shopping.
On 5/18/2018 12:51 PM, Sergey Kubushyn wrote:
On Fri, 18 May 2018, David G. wrote:
So, are we there yet or more donations needed?
I _DID_ make a donation when this subject was raised for the first time
but
can make another one if we are still short of target...
I know this is a delicate, my apologies.? It is very important to me that
those that donated know this.
Below is just cut and pasted here for clarity:
As some of you will easily recall, back in 2010 I tried desperately to
pull this together via donations from the group.? At first we were
successful at gathering the funds through email commitment however; not
nearly as many people actually donated compared to the number that
committed through email.
I am retired and could not foot the remainder of the bill and have felt
like an ABSOLUTE HEEL ever since!!!!!
I have now made a contribution in the sum total of ALL monies received
back then.? 480.00USD
I am not at all interested in anything other than trying to help the
community and possibly save a little face for a project that was started
in earnest to benefit the masses.
I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE the understanding of those generous souls whom
tried to help initially and deeply regret the direction my effort turned
when things fell so desperately short.
Thank you for the bandwidth.
Cheers, --- * * KSI@home KOI8 Net < > The impossible we do immediately. * * Las Vegas NV, USA < > Miracles require 24-hour notice. * *
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Re: RPR Conversion from Microfiche to OCR'ed PDF...............
Donations now at $6040. Time for them to start shopping.
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On 5/18/2018 12:51 PM, Sergey Kubushyn wrote: On Fri, 18 May 2018, David G. wrote:
So, are we there yet or more donations needed?
I _DID_ make a donation when this subject was raised for the first time but
can make another one if we are still short of target...
I know this is a delicate, my apologies.? It is very important to me that those that donated know this.
Below is just cut and pasted here for clarity:
As some of you will easily recall, back in 2010 I tried desperately to pull this together via donations from the group.? At first we were successful at gathering the funds through email commitment however; not nearly as many people actually donated compared to the number that committed through email.
I am retired and could not foot the remainder of the bill and have felt like an ABSOLUTE HEEL ever since!!!!!
I have now made a contribution in the sum total of ALL monies received back then.? 480.00USD
I am not at all interested in anything other than trying to help the community and possibly save a little face for a project that was started in earnest to benefit the masses.
I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE the understanding of those generous souls whom tried to help initially and deeply regret the direction my effort turned when things fell so desperately short.
Thank you for the bandwidth.
Cheers,
---
*
*? KSI@home??? KOI8 Net? < >? The impossible we do immediately.? *
*? Las Vegas?? NV, USA?? < >? Miracles require 24-hour notice.?? *
*
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Re: vintageTEK Museum Microfiche FINANCIAL help
Yes Thanks for your effort in the past, as someone who was clearly a head of
the time, and now the one who's effort may help kick this over the edge and
get it going.
And thanks to all others
John
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-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto: [email protected]] On Behalf Of Dennis Tillman W7PF Sent: Friday, May 18, 2018 12:17 PM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [TekScopes] vintageTEK Museum Microfiche FINANCIAL help Hi David, That was extremely nice! I have known you and your commitment to TekScopes for over 15 years. You have always been a strong supporter of TekScopes. Dennis Tillman W7PF -----Original Message-----
From: David G., Sent: Friday, May 18, 2018 11:57 AM
Hello All,
As some of you will easily recall, back in 2010 I tried desperately to pull this together via donations from the group. At first we were successful at gathering the funds through email commitment however; not nearly as many
people actually donated compared to the number that committed through
email.
I am retired and could not foot the remainder of the bill and have felt
like an ABSOLUTE HEEL ever since!!!!!
I have now made a contribution in the sum total of ALL monies received back then. 480.00USD
I am not at all interested in anything other than trying to help the
community and possibly save a little face for a project that was started in earnest to benefit the masses.
I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE the understanding of those generous souls whom tried to help initially and deeply regret the direction my effort turned when
things fell so desperately short.
Thank you for the bandwidth.
Cheers,
David
-- Dennis Tillman W7PF TekScopes Moderator
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Re: RPR Conversion from Microfiche to OCR'ed PDF...............
On Fri, 18 May 2018, David G. wrote: So, are we there yet or more donations needed? I _DID_ make a donation when this subject was raised for the first time but can make another one if we are still short of target... I know this is a delicate, my apologies. It is very important to me that those that donated know this.
Below is just cut and pasted here for clarity:
As some of you will easily recall, back in 2010 I tried desperately to pull this together via donations from the group. At first we were successful at gathering the funds through email commitment however; not nearly as many people actually donated compared to the number that committed through email.
I am retired and could not foot the remainder of the bill and have felt like an ABSOLUTE HEEL ever since!!!!!
I have now made a contribution in the sum total of ALL monies received back then. 480.00USD
I am not at all interested in anything other than trying to help the community and possibly save a little face for a project that was started in earnest to benefit the masses.
I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE the understanding of those generous souls whom tried to help initially and deeply regret the direction my effort turned when things fell so desperately short.
Thank you for the bandwidth.
Cheers,
--- * * KSI@home KOI8 Net < > The impossible we do immediately. * * Las Vegas NV, USA < > Miracles require 24-hour notice. * *
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Re: vintageTEK Museum Microfiche FINANCIAL help
Dennis Tillman W7PF wrote: If you ever have a reason to come to Seattle you have a place to stay here
with us. You can take a train down to Portland (3 hours away) and see the
museum while you are here. You can also take the Boeing Factory Tour and see
them assembling the 747, 767, 777, and 787 planes. You can also take a ferry
ride through the beautiful San Juan Islands in Puget Sound. Thanks for the invite Dennis ! :-) Yeah, with all these low cost airlines proliferating these days, maybe one day I will be able to afford a little trip to the US ! Would have to be in business class though... being 6'6" and large built, the economy seats just don't cut it, knees hurt badly after only a few minutes of flying... had a 45 minutes flight a couple years ago from two parts of France (for work), and after just 5 minutes I was dreaming I could force the pilot to perform and emergency landing, y so I could take a walk ! So going to the west coast of the US... I better have ample leg room other wise they would have to arrange for 911 to wait for me at the airport ! LOL Yeah would not mind visiting the Boeing factory. Aviation being my second big passion after electronics. Actually 7 years ago I gave up on electronics as a job, and spent a year learning the craft of Aircraft cell/structure repair. Now work at Airbus, working on the A350 XWB (Quality control/inspection). Would not mind visiting the "competition" ;-) Regards, Vincent Trouilliez
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Re: RPR Conversion from Microfiche to OCR'ed PDF...............
I know this is a delicate, my apologies. It is very important to me that those that donated know this.
Below is just cut and pasted here for clarity:
As some of you will easily recall, back in 2010 I tried desperately to pull this together via donations from the group. At first we were successful at gathering the funds through email commitment however; not nearly as many people actually donated compared to the number that committed through email.
I am retired and could not foot the remainder of the bill and have felt like an ABSOLUTE HEEL ever since!!!!!
I have now made a contribution in the sum total of ALL monies received back then. 480.00USD
I am not at all interested in anything other than trying to help the community and possibly save a little face for a project that was started in earnest to benefit the masses.
I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE the understanding of those generous souls whom tried to help initially and deeply regret the direction my effort turned when things fell so desperately short.
Thank you for the bandwidth.
Cheers,
David
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