Re: OT : How About A Group For
Remember I changed the name : /g/TestgearNotTekScopes/topicsTry that. I was there, bookmarked it and went BACK and picked up the URL. If it doesn't work I am crazy and will report for an immediate lobotomy and give up my guns. (well maybe)
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I've never gotten a thing, except for invoices from ebay, for sales and I've done over $40k.
Vince.
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On 05/01/2018 09:18 AM, David Berlind wrote: I didn't come close to that level. I left out one detail... It is PayPal
that sends the document to you if you process the payments through
PayPal. I probably sold a little less than $1K worth of stuff. I don't
know if PayPal has minimal thresholds or not.
On May 1, 2018 9:04:33 AM "EricJ via Groups.Io"
<wyzkydd2358@...> wrote:
They don't do this unless you cross a certain threshold of sales. You
have to BOTH sell more than $20,000.00 worth of goods AND have more
than 200 sales transactions or they do not do this. If you don't hit
both of these marks they send nothing.
--Eric
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S8.
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<david@...> Date: 5/1/18 7:56 AM (GMT-06:00) To:
[email protected], tom jobe <tomjobe@...> Subject: Re:
[TekScopes] PAYING FOR GROUPS.IO
As a frequent user of eBay, just keep in mind that whoever administers
that
will get a tax document shortly after the year is over and it will be
treated as income.
On May 1, 2018 7:58:01 AM "tom jobe" <tomjobe@...> wrote:
Stefan's eBay plan is brilliantly simple!
But I say it should be extended to $200, so there are ample funds for
the eBay and PayPal fees and other administrative costs (such as a nice
lunch for Dennis and his wife, etc).
Do not give any accounting of the funds other than to say the first year
is paid for.
Forget the list of donors and forget giving credit to anyone who
contributed.
If anyone requires a 'pat on the back', or any kind of accounting, then
that person should not contribute anything, and just say he did if it
makes him feel better.
Then when the time nears for the second year payment to Groups.IO do it
again for double whatever the Groups.IO charges are at that time.
tom jobe...
On 4/30/2018 10:29 PM, stefan_trethan wrote:
Maybe you can simply sell 150 "contributing memberships" on Ebay as $1
buy it now items and if someone wants to donate say $10 they can just
pick up 10 pcs? This would cap the funds coming in and almost
auto-generate a list.
Patreon or any of the countless gofundme type of sites would likely
work too, but I don't really want to singn up somewhere new. I expect
most members use Ebay already.
I don't think anyone is too concerned about fees or what happens to
excess money, the goal is to reimburse you with the least hassle for
you, but I understand why you do not want to be saddled with a large
sum that you don't know what to do with.
ST
On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 6:54 AM, Robert Simpson via Groups.Io
<go_boating_fast@...> wrote:
A. Donate extra to the Tektronix museum.
B. As mentioned, work out a deal with other moderators as like so many of
you, I am also a member of many technical forums.
Or anything like that.
And
Thank you for setting this up,
Bob
--
Michigan VHF Corp.
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On 05/01/2018 10:28 AM, ykochcal wrote: So get a extra email post it with a note "first lucky 200 people can donate"
and then send them the paypal info. This task could be handled by a volunteer separate from Dennis and John Dunn since it is all done by receiving emails and passing out info without money passwords at all.
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Re: OT : How About A Group For
'Sorry, but that group does not exist.' We can but hope ;-)
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On 05/01/2018 10:28 AM, stefan_trethan wrote: Given that the supply of money will (for once) outstrip demand I
didn't think giving Ebay or even the tax man a cut was an issue, at
least for the first year. You'll be surprised how quickly the
generosity runs dry when you make this an annual event. OK. So maybe we come back to a leaner way in a year or two. Easy button it is. Dennis did mention he didn't want extra money accumulated is the only reason I suggested servers and scripts... and it does not require new sign ups by members. Venmo might be good -- except for the "does not require new sign ups by members". Looking back, "does not require new sign ups by members" did not come from Dennis... Venmo might work. Stops extra money accumulating. Concept matches. Just needs donators to sign up for something new.
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Completely agree, the aim must surely be to do this without any further increase in hassle for the folk (and their spouses?) who put in all the effort for the benefit of us all.
If that means we pay a bit to the people who do take on that extra hassle - well that's how this world works as far as I'm concerned, so what's the problem?
Adrian
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On 5/1/2018 4:28 PM, ykochcal wrote: With a little luck and the good nature of people on this site you should end
up with good few years of funds.
And that would be a pittance compared to the value of your time and effort
of the moderators to moderate the site.
And I think we could all feel good about that.
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one other solution ... it is often used to split the bill at restaurants ..
is Venmo. I don't know if groups.io accepts payment from Venmo. Even if
they don't now, we could pitch them on the idea and they might do it given
how much sense it makes for the communities they serve. Venmo would solve
the problem with no side effects.
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On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 11:28 AM, ykochcal <Kochcal@...> wrote: Ok read all the posts
1. I would not mind if there was something like 5 year buffer.
2. If some how too much was collected there are other sites that I think
all
most anyone on this site would support (kurts w140.com/tekwiki/ ......)
that
the extra could be sent to
3. lots of stuff is sold through this site worded like "two left hand
threaded calibration fittings for rare scope for the postage" first two
direct emails gets it.
So get a extra email post it with a note "first lucky 200 people can
donate"
and then send them the paypal info.
With a little luck and the good nature of people on this site you should
end
up with good few years of funds.
And that would be a pittance compared to the value of your time and effort
of the moderators to moderate the site.
And I think we could all feel good about that.
John
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John
Griessen
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2018 7:58 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [TekScopes] PAYING FOR GROUPS.IO
On 05/01/2018 09:01 AM, Phil wrote:
1)going through ebay with small donations will do more to swell ebays coffers than the group. Better to just use paypal.
I agree. Mentioning on this email list is plenty to get donations to come
in.
Paypal can have problems too though. If you are paid, they take out some
money even if you then refund it.
People can choose gift or product usually when they send.
There is a receiver generated donate button that can be done with a web
site
that needs some research.
Here is an example of it:
By turning that button on/off you could control over active donating
completely. The person,(volunteer), in charge of
that turn on/off function could do so by logging into the server the
website
is on, run a script to turn on, stay logged in,
tell folks on the list, see donations reach enough to pay the bill, run a
script to turn off, logout.
When done by the fixed donation amount, any extra donations could be
refunded so the amount is exact each year, making
bookkeeping easy.
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I hate to break it to you John, but normal people do not run scripts.
They just click on stuff, mostly by accident. ;-)
It needs to be easy, otherwise Dennis would probably not be asking us
jokers for ideas....
Given that the supply of money will (for once) outstrip demand I
didn't think giving Ebay or even the tax man a cut was an issue, at
least for the first year. You'll be surprised how quickly the
generosity runs dry when you make this an annual event.
ST
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On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 4:57 PM, John Griessen <john@...> wrote: On 05/01/2018 09:01 AM, Phil wrote:
1)going through ebay with small donations will do more to swell ebays
coffers than the group. Better to just use paypal.
I agree. Mentioning on this email list is plenty to get donations to come
in.
Paypal can have problems too though. If you are paid, they take out some
money even if you then refund it.
People can choose gift or product usually when they send.
There is a receiver generated donate button that can be done with a web site
that needs some research.
Here is an example of it:
By turning that button on/off you could control over active donating
completely. The person,(volunteer), in charge of
that turn on/off function could do so by logging into the server the website
is on, run a script to turn on, stay logged in,
tell folks on the list, see donations reach enough to pay the bill, run a
script to turn off, logout.
When done by the fixed donation amount, any extra donations could be
refunded so the amount is exact each year, making
bookkeeping easy.
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Ok read all the posts
1. I would not mind if there was something like 5 year buffer.
2. If some how too much was collected there are other sites that I think all
most anyone on this site would support (kurts w140.com/tekwiki/ ......) that
the extra could be sent to
3. lots of stuff is sold through this site worded like "two left hand
threaded calibration fittings for rare scope for the postage" first two
direct emails gets it.
So get a extra email post it with a note "first lucky 200 people can donate"
and then send them the paypal info.
With a little luck and the good nature of people on this site you should end
up with good few years of funds.
And that would be a pittance compared to the value of your time and effort
of the moderators to moderate the site.
And I think we could all feel good about that.
John
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-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto: [email protected]] On Behalf Of John Griessen Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2018 7:58 AM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [TekScopes] PAYING FOR GROUPS.IO On 05/01/2018 09:01 AM, Phil wrote: 1)going through ebay with small donations will do more to swell ebays coffers than the group. Better to just use paypal. I agree. Mentioning on this email list is plenty to get donations to come in. Paypal can have problems too though. If you are paid, they take out some money even if you then refund it. People can choose gift or product usually when they send. There is a receiver generated donate button that can be done with a web site that needs some research. Here is an example of it: By turning that button on/off you could control over active donating completely. The person,(volunteer), in charge of that turn on/off function could do so by logging into the server the website is on, run a script to turn on, stay logged in, tell folks on the list, see donations reach enough to pay the bill, run a script to turn off, logout. When done by the fixed donation amount, any extra donations could be refunded so the amount is exact each year, making bookkeeping easy.
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On 05/01/2018 09:01 AM, Phil wrote: 1)going through ebay with small donations will do more to swell ebays coffers than the group. Better to just use paypal. I agree. Mentioning on this email list is plenty to get donations to come in. Paypal can have problems too though. If you are paid, they take out some money even if you then refund it. People can choose gift or product usually when they send. There is a receiver generated donate button that can be done with a web site that needs some research. Here is an example of it: By turning that button on/off you could control over active donating completely. The person,(volunteer), in charge of that turn on/off function could do so by logging into the server the website is on, run a script to turn on, stay logged in, tell folks on the list, see donations reach enough to pay the bill, run a script to turn off, logout. When done by the fixed donation amount, any extra donations could be refunded so the amount is exact each year, making bookkeeping easy.
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Some of the ICs that I bought from surplus dealers had a bad gate or inverter. I would bend the leads for that up, and use it where that section wasn't needed.
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-----Original Message----- From: "ebrucehunter via Groups.Io" <Brucekareen@...>
Sent: May 1, 2018 10:44 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Nuvistors/TD
In the late 1960s a surplus dealer near the Oakland, California airport was obtaining barrels of rejected and sometimes unmarked semiconductors, presumably from scrap yards where the Silicon Valley semiconductor manufacturers were dumping them. He was retesting and selling these to people like Radio Shack. I recall him saying that many of the i.c.s had failed infrared heat distribution tests, but would be fine for non-military use.
Bruce, KG6OJI
Michael A. Terrell
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auto-generate a list of contributors: On 05/01/2018 12:29 AM, stefan_trethan wrote: Maybe you can simply sell 150 "contributing memberships" on Ebay as $1
buy it now items and if someone wants to donate say $10 they can just
pick up 10 pcs? This would cap the funds coming in and almost
auto-generate a list. ebay is so tight with the data -- I don't see auto generate. paypal.com is not very helpful either -- their "statements" do not have credit or bank account payment details or emails. A list of who paid has to come from the many individual emails sent as paypal process payments. The individual paypal "You've got money" emails could be processed as a batch using an email reader like thunderbird first. Using thunderbird so all paypals to a certain email go in a folder/directory you can select them all in a date range that you want, then do a save as to a directory already created for them to land in and they all go into files with ridiculously long names like: 'Re: [TekScopes] PAYING FOR GROUPS.IO - "Gary Robert Bosworth" <grbosworth@...> - 2018-04-30 2346.eml' 'Re: [TekScopes] PAYING FOR GROUPS.IO - "Robert Simpson via Groups.Io" <go_boating_fast@...> - 2018-04-30 2354.eml' 'Re: [TekScopes] PAYING FOR GROUPS.IO - "Sergey Kubushyn" <ksi@...> - 2018-04-30 2330.eml' That directory full of data could be processed by a script to extract name, email, and amount paid. probably a bash script or python script would be low effort. paypal You've got money emails contain these same lines every time: x sent you $x Money received $x.xx USD sed commands could strip out name, email, and amount paid in a bash script of a few lines.
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In the late 1960s a surplus dealer near the Oakland, California airport was obtaining barrels of rejected and sometimes unmarked semiconductors, presumably from scrap yards where the Silicon Valley semiconductor manufacturers were dumping them. He was retesting and selling these to people like Radio Shack. I recall him saying that many of the i.c.s had failed infrared heat distribution tests, but would be fine for non-military use.
Bruce, KG6OJI
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Re: TM504A differences from TM504
Thank you very much.
This gets me much closer. And yes there is a sticker inside referring to the SG505 and AA501a. I just assumed that the previous owner had those modules in it.
Some google implies I need a manual 070-7813-01.pdf or f7523a1 but could only find teaser TOC for sale and dead links.
Hopefully I can use this for general use at some point. The Tek Wiki link doesn't work.
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1)going through ebay with small donations will do more to swell ebays coffers than the group. Better to just use paypal.
2)I think paypal will do the currency conversion (and charge) I need to check.
3) I do not need or want a credit for donation, if others do I would prefer to be lumped under 'anonymous'
Phil
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Re: OT : How About A Group For
I get an error message on that page:
'Sorry, but that group does not exist.'
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-----Original Message----- From: Jeff Urban <JURB6006@...>
The new group has been approved but it is named TestGearNTS. I'll have to look into changing the name to spell out "not tek scopes".
The URL for direct web access (which is what I use and is easy) is :
/g/TestgearNTS/topics Michael A. Terrell
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Re: Intermittent no trace / sweep.
The TEKSCOPES.COM<> domain has been listed in the marketplace. Does that mean it will soon disappear? That would be a major loss for us if it gets discarded.
Heaven goes by favor.
If it went by merit,
you would stay out and
your dog would go in.
-Mark Twain
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On Apr 30, 2018, at 10:21, ¸é±ð²Ô¨¦±ð <k6fsb.1@...<mailto:k6fsb.1@...>> wrote:
re pictures, once you upload the picture, I think one needs to copy and insert the link into the thread/ reply so we can find it/ click on it/ take us to said picture and album.
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Hmm, something else must have happened there I think. I sold considerably more than $1,000 on eBay and through a message forum directly and never received anything from either one.
--Eric
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S8.
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-------- Original message --------From: David Berlind <david@...> Date: 5/1/18 8:18 AM (GMT-06:00) To: [email protected], "EricJ via Groups.Io" <wyzkydd2358@...> Subject: Re: [TekScopes] PAYING FOR GROUPS.IO I didn't come close to that level. I left out one detail... It is PayPal that sends the document to you if you process the payments through PayPal. I probably sold a little less than $1K worth of stuff.? I don't know if PayPal has minimal thresholds or not. On May 1, 2018 9:04:33 AM "EricJ via Groups.Io" <wyzkydd2358@...> wrote: They don't do this unless you cross a certain threshold of sales. You have
to BOTH sell more than $20,000.00 worth of goods AND have more than 200
sales transactions or they do not do this. If you don't hit both of these
marks they send nothing.
--Eric
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S8.
-------- Original message --------From: David Berlind <david@...>
Date: 5/1/18? 7:56 AM? (GMT-06:00) To: [email protected], tom jobe
<tomjobe@...> Subject: Re: [TekScopes] PAYING FOR GROUPS.IO
As a frequent user of eBay, just keep in mind that whoever administers that
will get a tax document shortly after the year is over and it will be
treated as income.
On May 1, 2018 7:58:01 AM "tom jobe" <tomjobe@...> wrote:
Stefan's eBay plan is brilliantly simple!
But I say it should be extended to $200, so there are ample funds for
the eBay and PayPal fees and other administrative costs (such as a nice
lunch for Dennis and his wife, etc).
Do not give any accounting of the funds other than to say the first year
is paid for.
Forget the list of donors and forget giving credit to anyone who
contributed.
If anyone requires a 'pat on the back', or any kind of accounting, then
that person should not contribute anything, and just say he did if it
makes him feel better.
Then when the time nears for the second year payment to Groups.IO do it
again for double whatever the Groups.IO charges are at that time.
tom jobe...
On 4/30/2018 10:29 PM, stefan_trethan wrote:
Maybe you can simply sell 150 "contributing memberships" on Ebay as $1
buy it now items and if someone wants to donate say $10 they can just
pick up 10 pcs? This would cap the funds coming in and almost
auto-generate a list.
Patreon or any of the countless gofundme type of sites would likely
work too, but I don't really want to singn up somewhere new. I expect
most members use Ebay already.
I don't think anyone is too concerned about fees or what happens to
excess money, the goal is to reimburse you with the least hassle for
you, but I understand why you do not want to be saddled with a large
sum that you don't know what to do with.
ST
On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 6:54 AM, Robert Simpson via Groups.Io
<go_boating_fast@...> wrote:
A. Donate extra to the Tektronix museum.
B. As mentioned, work out a deal with other moderators as like so many of you, I am also a member of many technical forums.
Or anything like that.
And
Thank you for setting this up,
Bob
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I didn't come close to that level. I left out one detail... It is PayPal that sends the document to you if you process the payments through PayPal. I probably sold a little less than $1K worth of stuff. I don't know if PayPal has minimal thresholds or not.
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On May 1, 2018 9:04:33 AM "EricJ via Groups.Io" <wyzkydd2358@...> wrote: They don't do this unless you cross a certain threshold of sales. You have to BOTH sell more than $20,000.00 worth of goods AND have more than 200 sales transactions or they do not do this. If you don't hit both of these marks they send nothing.
--Eric
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S8.
-------- Original message --------From: David Berlind <david@...> Date: 5/1/18 7:56 AM (GMT-06:00) To: [email protected], tom jobe <tomjobe@...> Subject: Re: [TekScopes] PAYING FOR GROUPS.IO
As a frequent user of eBay, just keep in mind that whoever administers that
will get a tax document shortly after the year is over and it will be
treated as income.
On May 1, 2018 7:58:01 AM "tom jobe" <tomjobe@...> wrote:
Stefan's eBay plan is brilliantly simple!
But I say it should be extended to $200, so there are ample funds for
the eBay and PayPal fees and other administrative costs (such as a nice
lunch for Dennis and his wife, etc).
Do not give any accounting of the funds other than to say the first year
is paid for.
Forget the list of donors and forget giving credit to anyone who
contributed.
If anyone requires a 'pat on the back', or any kind of accounting, then
that person should not contribute anything, and just say he did if it
makes him feel better.
Then when the time nears for the second year payment to Groups.IO do it
again for double whatever the Groups.IO charges are at that time.
tom jobe...
On 4/30/2018 10:29 PM, stefan_trethan wrote:
Maybe you can simply sell 150 "contributing memberships" on Ebay as $1
buy it now items and if someone wants to donate say $10 they can just
pick up 10 pcs? This would cap the funds coming in and almost
auto-generate a list.
Patreon or any of the countless gofundme type of sites would likely
work too, but I don't really want to singn up somewhere new. I expect
most members use Ebay already.
I don't think anyone is too concerned about fees or what happens to
excess money, the goal is to reimburse you with the least hassle for
you, but I understand why you do not want to be saddled with a large
sum that you don't know what to do with.
ST
On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 6:54 AM, Robert Simpson via Groups.Io
<go_boating_fast@...> wrote:
A. Donate extra to the Tektronix museum.
B. As mentioned, work out a deal with other moderators as like so many of you, I am also a member of many technical forums.
Or anything like that.
And
Thank you for setting this up,
Bob
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Re: TM504A differences from TM504
That would explain the barriers he found too, setup specifically for the SG505 & AA501A.
Bob.
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On 5/1/2018 2:42 AM, Egge Siert wrote: Hi to All,
As far as I know the TM504A is exclusively produced as part of the SG505 Mod WQ, SG505 Mod WR and AA501A Mod WQ Test Set (TS-4353-U). Sometime ago there was a free Operators Manual (see earlier Posts) for this set. But now it disappeared.
Greetings,
Egge Siert
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