Re: 8,000 Member Milestone
Judging by how much they are selling for on eBay, they are an investment. Malcolm On 25 March 2016 23:52:35 "Jerome Leach jerome_leach@... [TekScopes]" <TekScopes@...> wrote: That is the truth! Bought a 564B Mod 121 some 4 1/2 years ago.... Now I have a 317, 561B, 545B, 181 Time Mark, 190B, 106, 114, 1121, and around 17 plug-ins.
From: "Dave Daniel kc0wjn@... [TekScopes]" <TekScopes@...> To: TekScopes@... Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 7:25 PM Subject: Re: [TekScopes] 8,000 Member Milestone
THE one broken oscilloscope. Then, needed a second one to fix the first. Then .....
On 3/25/2016 5:20 PM, paul huguenin tigrol.lechat@... [TekScopes] wrote:
Which came first, the broken test equipment collection or the warehouse?
Paul
2016-03-25 12:39 GMT+01:00 Paul Amaranth paul@... [TekScopes] < TekScopes@...>:
On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 09:21:01PM -0700, 'Dennis Tillman' dennis@... [TekScopes] wrote:
As their prize I had in mind that each of us donate one broken plugin or
scope to them.
That way they would have no choice but to be lifetime members. It should
take them that long to fix them all.
Don't ask me how I know this.
Dennis Tillman W7PF No need to ask :-)
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Re: 8,000 Member Milestone
That is the truth! Bought a 564B Mod 121 some 4 1/2 years ago.... Now I have a 317, 561B, 545B, 181 Time Mark, 190B, 106, 114, 1121, and around 17 plug-ins. From: "Dave Daniel kc0wjn@... [TekScopes]" <TekScopes@...> To: TekScopes@... Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 7:25 PM Subject: Re: [TekScopes] 8,000 Member Milestone THE one broken oscilloscope. Then, needed a second one to fix the first. Then ..... On 3/25/2016 5:20 PM, paul huguenin tigrol.lechat@... [TekScopes] wrote: Which came first, the broken test equipment collection or the warehouse?
Paul
2016-03-25 12:39 GMT+01:00 Paul Amaranth paul@... [TekScopes] < TekScopes@...>:
On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 09:21:01PM -0700, 'Dennis Tillman' dennis@... [TekScopes] wrote:
As their prize I had in mind that each of us donate one broken plugin or
scope to them.
That way they would have no choice but to be lifetime members. It should
take them that long to fix them all.
Don't ask me how I know this.
Dennis Tillman W7PF No need to ask :-)
-- Paul Amaranth, GCIH | Rochester MI, USA Aurora Group, Inc. | Security, Systems & Software paul@... | Unix & Windows
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Re: 8,000 Member Milestone
THE one broken oscilloscope. Then, needed a second one to fix the first. Then ..... On 3/25/2016 5:20 PM, paul huguenin tigrol.lechat@... [TekScopes] wrote: Which came first, the broken test equipment collection or the warehouse?
Paul
2016-03-25 12:39 GMT+01:00 Paul Amaranth paul@... [TekScopes] < TekScopes@...>:
On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 09:21:01PM -0700, 'Dennis Tillman' dennis@... [TekScopes] wrote:
As their prize I had in mind that each of us donate one broken plugin or
scope to them.
That way they would have no choice but to be lifetime members. It should
take them that long to fix them all.
Don't ask me how I know this.
Dennis Tillman W7PF No need to ask :-)
-- Paul Amaranth, GCIH | Rochester MI, USA Aurora Group, Inc. | Security, Systems & Software paul@... | Unix & Windows
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Re: 8,000 Member Milestone
Which came first, the broken test equipment collection or the warehouse?
Paul
2016-03-25 12:39 GMT+01:00 Paul Amaranth paul@... [TekScopes] < TekScopes@...>:
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On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 09:21:01PM -0700, 'Dennis Tillman' dennis@... [TekScopes] wrote:
As their prize I had in mind that each of us donate one broken plugin or scope to them.
That way they would have no choice but to be lifetime members. It should take them that long to fix them all.
Don't ask me how I know this.
Dennis Tillman W7PF No need to ask :-)
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Re: Huge Databook collection now uploaded
On Fri, 25 Mar 2016 22:08:43 +0000, you wrote: On 25 March 2016 at 21:09, Malcolm Hunter <malcolm.r.hunter@...> wrote:
On 25 March 2016 at 19:34, MIKE DURKIN Patriot121@... [TekScopes] < TekScopes@...> wrote:
any one crazy enough to put it as one big zip and post on a torrent ? ?Working on it. ?Here is the magnet link:
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:4DEBE88409556F5E324354519E12B502D810358E&dn=Databooks% 20from%20Sphere&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.openbittorrent.com% 3a80%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.publicbt.com%3a80% 2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.ccc.de%3a80%2fannounce? That works much better. I will plan on continuously seeding your torrent instead of making my own.
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Re: Huge Databook collection now uploaded
On 25 March 2016 at 21:09, Malcolm Hunter <malcolm.r.hunter@...> wrote: On 25 March 2016 at 19:34, MIKE DURKIN Patriot121@... [TekScopes] < TekScopes@...> wrote:
any one crazy enough to put it as one big zip and post on a torrent ? ?Working on it.
?Here is the magnet link: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:4DEBE88409556F5E324354519E12B502D810358E&dn=Databooks% 20from%20Sphere&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.openbittorrent.com% 3a80%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.publicbt.com%3a80% 2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.ccc.de%3a80%2fannounce?
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Re: Huge Databook collection now uploaded
On 25 March 2016 at 19:34, MIKE DURKIN Patriot121@... [TekScopes] < TekScopes@...> wrote: any one crazy enough to put it as one big zip and post on a torrent ? ?Working on it. Malcolm?
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I was planning to but Google Drive is one of the most useless file sharing application in existence so I am not sure how long it will take for me to download the files.
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any one crazy enough to put it as one big zip and post on a torrent ?
To: TekScopes@... From: TekScopes@... Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2016 11:53:16 -0700 Subject: [TekScopes] Re: Huge Databook collection now uploaded
Many, many thanks for all your efforts! Great!
Best regards
pudu51
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Re: Tek 2247A [SN B029000] Recap and diode part list ?
Where the parts list says 250V, it should say 250VAC.
These are safety capacitors which are intended for use across hot/neutral (class X), hot/ground (class Y), and neutral/ground (class Y). If they fail, they are suppose to do so in a safe way preventing hazardous conditions.
250VAC safety capacitors may have a 630VDC rating so the units you selected should work fine and in the past that is how they might be selected. Today though 250VAC class X and class Y safety capacitors are easy to find.
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On Fri, 25 Mar 2016 01:16:25 +0000 (UTC), you wrote: Hi David, I am not very sure ?Cap A18C2213, A18C2214, A18C2217 description says "CAP,FXD,MTLZD:1500pF,10%,250V" ?which never mention AC but all those located in AC circuit. I ordered DC cap "ECQ-E6152JF" which 630VDC cap. ?Don't feel right here, am I using wrong CAP and should be using AC Cap?
From: "David davidwhess@... [TekScopes]" <TekScopes@...> To: TekScopes@... Sent: Sunday, 20 March 2016, 13:56 Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Tek 2247A [SN B029000] Recap and diode part list ?
? Film capacitors are sometimes selected for specific characteristics to support their application but in the general case, they are all interchangeable and can also be replaced with C0G or NP0 type ceramic capacitors.
The difference between number 1 and number 5 at your first link is physical construction.
On Sun, 20 Mar 2016 04:51:08 +0000 (UTC), you wrote:
Hi David,
One of my equipment having ?plastic type CAP with transparent case [look like label ?number 1 at this link]? I am try to replace it with??metalized polyester film capacitor from Panasonic with same value and same volt rating, they look like [], they look very different from original cap. ?This new one look more like ?label number ?4 & 5 [?].
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Re: Huge Databook collection now uploaded
Many, many thanks for all your efforts! Great!
Best regards
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Re: Huge Databook collection now uploaded
That's awesome and very helpful. Thank you.
Peter
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On 3/25/2016 10:53 AM, walter2@... [TekScopes] wrote: All the digitized semiconductor data books we collected over the years at Sphere, along with tubes, app notes, time codes, and tek/hp cross-refs and concepts are now up in the first location, thanks to John Allen (K1AE). he has parked them here on his google drive, nicely laid out by the book categories:
Click on the image, then use the top located download arrow to grab the file. Paul Swed is also transferring the collection to Didier's site for easy retrieval, but this will take a while to transfer and index. Many thanks to all the good net citizens who scanned and preserved these, and have kept them alive. Hopefully these common repositories will make it easy to find and retrieve them for years to come. For those coming up for stuff day, I have them on DVD, you can save your bandwidth.
If anybody has the old classic semiconductor reference guides motorola put out, that list every single !N, 2N and 3N registered number, please let me know! That's the one thing I haven't located, other than my paper copies.
Hope these prove useful, they really cover a lot of ground. all the best, walter (walter2 -at- sphere.bc.ca) sphere research corp.
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Re: Huge Databook collection now uploaded
The databooks are an excellent contribution to the forum. Thanks Walter. Reed Dickinson On 3/25/2016 8:33 AM, 'Craig Sawyers' c.sawyers@... [TekScopes] wrote: Wow - thanks for that Walter!
Cheers
Craig
-----Original Message----- From: TekScopes@... [mailto:TekScopes@...] Sent: 25 March 2016 14:54 To: TekScopes@... Subject: [TekScopes] Huge Databook collection now uploaded
All the digitized semiconductor data books we collected over the years at Sphere, along with tubes,
app notes, time codes, and tek/hp cross-refs and concepts are now up in the first location, thanks to
John Allen (K1AE). he has parked them here on his google drive, nicely laid out by the book
categories:
Click on the image, then use the top located download arrow to grab the file. Paul Swed is also
transferring the collection to Didier's site for easy retrieval, but this will take a while to transfer and
index. Many thanks to all the good net citizens who scanned and preserved these, and have kept
them alive. Hopefully these common repositories will make it easy to find and retrieve them for years
to come. For those coming up for stuff day, I have them on DVD, you can save your bandwidth.
If anybody has the old classic semiconductor reference guides motorola put out, that list every single
!N, 2N and 3N registered number, please let me know! That's the one thing I haven't located, other
than my paper copies.
Hope these prove useful, they really cover a lot of ground. all the best, walter (walter2 -at- sphere.bc.ca) sphere research corp.
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Re: Huge Databook collection now uploaded
Wow - thanks for that Walter!
Cheers
Craig
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All the digitized semiconductor data books we collected over the years at Sphere, along with tubes, app notes, time codes, and tek/hp cross-refs and concepts are now up in the first location, thanks to John Allen (K1AE). he has parked them here on his google drive, nicely laid out by the book categories:
Click on the image, then use the top located download arrow to grab the file. Paul Swed is also transferring the collection to Didier's site for easy retrieval, but this will take a while to transfer and index. Many thanks to all the good net citizens who scanned and preserved these, and have kept them alive. Hopefully these common repositories will make it easy to find and retrieve them for years to come. For those coming up for stuff day, I have them on DVD, you can save your bandwidth.
If anybody has the old classic semiconductor reference guides motorola put out, that list every single !N, 2N and 3N registered number, please let me know! That's the one thing I haven't located, other than my paper copies.
Hope these prove useful, they really cover a lot of ground. all the best, walter (walter2 -at- sphere.bc.ca) sphere research corp.
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Huge Databook collection now uploaded
All the digitized semiconductor data books we collected over the years at Sphere, along with tubes, app notes, time codes, and tek/hp cross-refs and concepts are now up in the first location, thanks to John Allen (K1AE). he has parked them here on his google drive, nicely laid out by the book categories:
Click on the image, then use the top located download arrow to grab the file. Paul Swed is also transferring the collection to Didier's site for easy retrieval, but this will take a while to transfer and index. Many thanks to all the good net citizens who scanned and preserved these, and have kept them alive. Hopefully these common repositories will make it easy to find and retrieve them for years to come. For those coming up for stuff day, I have them on DVD, you can save your bandwidth.
If anybody has the old classic semiconductor reference guides motorola put out, that list every single !N, 2N and 3N registered number, please let me know! That's the one thing I haven't located, other than my paper copies.
Hope these prove useful, they really cover a lot of ground. all the best, walter (walter2 -at- sphere.bc.ca) sphere research corp.
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I went back and tested it again revealing some problems which were not apparent before. The 7CT1N was definitely not designed to operate this way.
It works well enough in alternate mode but that has some disadvantages. It should work in chop mode but the logic built around Q204 and Q208 disables the collector supply between chops (why?) and the chopping rate is so high that the collector supply amplifier and probably later stages cannot keep up. Removing Q212 should fix this and it does allow it to work in a horizontal slot but in a vertical slot it still has problems with vertical smearing.
So without modifying the 7CT1N, it would appear that using a 7844 is the way to go.
My 7CT1N is a little weird and is probably not operating quite as well as it should so it may be that the vertical chopping artifacts are peculiar to it.
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On Thu, 24 Mar 2016 22:18:58 -0700, you wrote: Hi David, I never tried this experiment in a regular 4 slot MF. My conclusion was that I needed the dual independent beams but I don't remember the reason. There may be a way to do it provided you don't try to make it too complicated and if I had the ALT and CHOP settings correct. But there would be a lot of beam switching going on and I don't know how that would affect the curves on the screen. They may get chopped up pretty badly
The 7844 didn't care whether the 7CT1N was in the Horizontal or the vertical slot. No beam switching was necessary so each set of curves was perfect. I did repeat the test on the 7844 with both 7CT1Ns in the vertical slots and then with both in the horizontal slots and finally with one 7CT1N in one horizontal slot and the other 7CT1N in one vertical slot. So maybe what I was trying to prove was the incredible versatility of the 7844. It is definitely an amazing scope!
Dennis Tillman W7PF
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On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 09:21:01PM -0700, 'Dennis Tillman' dennis@... [TekScopes] wrote: As their prize I had in mind that each of us donate one broken plugin or scope to them.
That way they would have no choice but to be lifetime members. It should take them that long to fix them all.
Don't ask me how I know this.
Dennis Tillman W7PF No need to ask :-) -- Paul Amaranth, GCIH | Rochester MI, USA Aurora Group, Inc. | Security, Systems & Software paul@... | Unix & Windows
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thanks much, Dennis, I'll check them out too. john ai4to On 03/25/2016 01:06 AM, 'Dennis Tillman' dennis@... [TekScopes] wrote: Hi John, My DM501A has an AGC 2A (fast blow) fuse in it. The usual failure is a blown tantalum filter cap.
Try this: 1) Put a jumper across the fuse and check for a short between the power supply fingers on the back of the plugin before wasting another 2A fuse in the fuse clips. 2) Perform a visual check of all tantalum caps and corresponding series resistors (usually 10 to 20 ohms) that are located nearby.
Dennis Tillman W7PF
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I have been unable to find an electrical parts listing for the AGC fuse in my DM501A. The present one (blown) is 2 Amps. This seems a bit low to me, maybe 2.5 or 3?
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On 25 March 2016 at 04:21, 'Dennis Tillman' dennis@... [TekScopes] <TekScopes@...> wrote: As their prize I had in mind that each of us donate one broken plugin or scope to them.
That way they would have no choice but to be lifetime members. It should take them that long to fix them all.
?I think we just need to present them with a working oscilloscope with just one broken knob and a note to say that they it's cheaper to buy a parts mule with a good knob than a NOS knob. They will then be stuck in the endless cycle of fixing equipment? and finding parts. Malcolm
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Re: TDS 54x Acquisition troubleshooting
TL074/TL072 work fine. Glad the schematics have made it to KO4BB.
I'm not too sure what the voltages should be at those test points. I would strongly suggest tying to find a GPIB adaptor somehow as it makes this debugging quite a lot easier. I had problems with the error log getting too long to find the latest errors.
Even if the traces looks like they are connected make sure to check them with a multimeter for continuity.
Simon
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