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Re: 8,000 Member Milestone

 

Judging by how much they are selling for on eBay, they are an investment.

Malcolm


On 25 March 2016 23:52:35 "Jerome Leach jerome_leach@... [TekScopes]"
<TekScopes@...> wrote:

That is the truth!
Bought a 564B Mod 121 some 4 1/2 years ago....
Now I have a 317, 561B, 545B, 181 Time Mark, 190B, 106, 114, 1121, and
around 17 plug-ins.

From: "Dave Daniel kc0wjn@... [TekScopes]" <TekScopes@...>
To: TekScopes@...
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 7:25 PM
Subject: Re: [TekScopes] 8,000 Member Milestone

THE one broken oscilloscope. Then, needed a second one to fix the first.
Then .....

On 3/25/2016 5:20 PM, paul huguenin tigrol.lechat@... [TekScopes]
wrote:

Which came first, the broken test equipment collection or the warehouse?

Paul

2016-03-25 12:39 GMT+01:00 Paul Amaranth paul@... [TekScopes] <
TekScopes@...>:

On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 09:21:01PM -0700, 'Dennis Tillman'
dennis@... [TekScopes] wrote:
As their prize I had in mind that each of us donate one broken
plugin or
scope to them.

That way they would have no choice but to be lifetime members. It
should
take them that long to fix them all.



Don't ask me how I know this.



Dennis Tillman W7PF
No need to ask :-)

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Re: 8,000 Member Milestone

 

That is the truth!
Bought a 564B Mod 121 some 4 1/2 years ago....
Now I have a 317, 561B, 545B, 181 Time Mark, 190B, 106, 114, 1121, and around 17 plug-ins.

From: "Dave Daniel kc0wjn@... [TekScopes]" <TekScopes@...>
To: TekScopes@...
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2016 7:25 PM
Subject: Re: [TekScopes] 8,000 Member Milestone

THE one broken oscilloscope. Then, needed a second one to fix the first.
Then .....

On 3/25/2016 5:20 PM, paul huguenin tigrol.lechat@... [TekScopes]
wrote:

Which came first, the broken test equipment collection or the warehouse?

Paul

2016-03-25 12:39 GMT+01:00 Paul Amaranth paul@... [TekScopes] <
TekScopes@...>:

On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 09:21:01PM -0700, 'Dennis Tillman'
dennis@... [TekScopes] wrote:
As their prize I had in mind that each of us donate one broken
plugin or
scope to them.

That way they would have no choice but to be lifetime members. It
should
take them that long to fix them all.



Don't ask me how I know this.



Dennis Tillman W7PF
No need to ask :-)

--
Paul Amaranth, GCIH | Rochester MI, USA
Aurora Group, Inc. | Security, Systems & Software
paul@... | Unix & Windows



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Re: 8,000 Member Milestone

 

THE one broken oscilloscope. Then, needed a second one to fix the first.
Then .....

On 3/25/2016 5:20 PM, paul huguenin tigrol.lechat@... [TekScopes]
wrote:

Which came first, the broken test equipment collection or the warehouse?

Paul

2016-03-25 12:39 GMT+01:00 Paul Amaranth paul@... [TekScopes] <
TekScopes@...>:

On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 09:21:01PM -0700, 'Dennis Tillman'
dennis@... [TekScopes] wrote:
As their prize I had in mind that each of us donate one broken
plugin or
scope to them.

That way they would have no choice but to be lifetime members. It
should
take them that long to fix them all.



Don't ask me how I know this.



Dennis Tillman W7PF
No need to ask :-)

--
Paul Amaranth, GCIH | Rochester MI, USA
Aurora Group, Inc. | Security, Systems & Software
paul@... | Unix & Windows



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Re: 8,000 Member Milestone

 

Which came first, the broken test equipment collection or the warehouse?

Paul

2016-03-25 12:39 GMT+01:00 Paul Amaranth paul@... [TekScopes] <
TekScopes@...>:

On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 09:21:01PM -0700, 'Dennis Tillman'
dennis@... [TekScopes] wrote:
As their prize I had in mind that each of us donate one broken plugin or
scope to them.

That way they would have no choice but to be lifetime members. It should
take them that long to fix them all.



Don't ask me how I know this.



Dennis Tillman W7PF
No need to ask :-)

--
Paul Amaranth, GCIH | Rochester MI, USA
Aurora Group, Inc. | Security, Systems & Software
paul@... | Unix & Windows



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Re: Huge Databook collection now uploaded

 

On Fri, 25 Mar 2016 22:08:43 +0000, you wrote:

On 25 March 2016 at 21:09, Malcolm Hunter <malcolm.r.hunter@...>
wrote:

On 25 March 2016 at 19:34, MIKE DURKIN Patriot121@... [TekScopes] <
TekScopes@...> wrote:

any one crazy enough to put it as one big zip and post on a torrent ?
?Working on it.
?Here is the magnet link:

magnet:?xt=urn:btih:4DEBE88409556F5E324354519E12B502D810358E&dn=Databooks%
20from%20Sphere&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.openbittorrent.com%
3a80%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.publicbt.com%3a80%
2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.ccc.de%3a80%2fannounce?
That works much better. I will plan on continuously seeding your
torrent instead of making my own.


Re: Huge Databook collection now uploaded

 

On 25 March 2016 at 21:09, Malcolm Hunter <malcolm.r.hunter@...>
wrote:

On 25 March 2016 at 19:34, MIKE DURKIN Patriot121@... [TekScopes] <
TekScopes@...> wrote:

any one crazy enough to put it as one big zip and post on a torrent ?

?Working on it.
?Here is the magnet link:

magnet:?xt=urn:btih:4DEBE88409556F5E324354519E12B502D810358E&dn=Databooks%
20from%20Sphere&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.openbittorrent.com%
3a80%2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.publicbt.com%3a80%
2fannounce&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.ccc.de%3a80%2fannounce?


Re: Huge Databook collection now uploaded

 

On 25 March 2016 at 19:34, MIKE DURKIN Patriot121@... [TekScopes] <
TekScopes@...> wrote:

any one crazy enough to put it as one big zip and post on a torrent ?

?Working on it.

Malcolm?


Re: Huge Databook collection now uploaded

 

I was planning to but Google Drive is one of the most useless file
sharing application in existence so I am not sure how long it will
take for me to download the files.

On Fri, 25 Mar 2016 12:34:10 -0700, you wrote:

any one crazy enough to put it as one big zip and post on a torrent ?


Re: Huge Databook collection now uploaded

MIKE DURKIN
 

any one crazy enough to put it as one big zip and post on a torrent ?

To: TekScopes@...
From: TekScopes@...
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2016 11:53:16 -0700
Subject: [TekScopes] Re: Huge Databook collection now uploaded


























Many, many thanks for all your efforts! Great!





Best regards





pudu51



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Re: Tek 2247A [SN B029000] Recap and diode part list ?

 

Where the parts list says 250V, it should say 250VAC.

These are safety capacitors which are intended for use across
hot/neutral (class X), hot/ground (class Y), and neutral/ground (class
Y). If they fail, they are suppose to do so in a safe way preventing
hazardous conditions.

250VAC safety capacitors may have a 630VDC rating so the units you
selected should work fine and in the past that is how they might be
selected. Today though 250VAC class X and class Y safety capacitors
are easy to find.

On Fri, 25 Mar 2016 01:16:25 +0000 (UTC), you wrote:

Hi David,
I am not very sure ?Cap A18C2213, A18C2214, A18C2217 description says "CAP,FXD,MTLZD:1500pF,10%,250V" ?which never mention AC but all those located in AC circuit.
I ordered DC cap "ECQ-E6152JF" which 630VDC cap. ?Don't feel right here, am I using wrong CAP and should be using AC Cap?

From: "David davidwhess@... [TekScopes]" <TekScopes@...>
To: TekScopes@...
Sent: Sunday, 20 March 2016, 13:56
Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Tek 2247A [SN B029000] Recap and diode part list ?

? Film capacitors are sometimes selected for specific characteristics to
support their application but in the general case, they are all
interchangeable and can also be replaced with C0G or NP0 type ceramic
capacitors.

The difference between number 1 and number 5 at your first link is
physical construction.

On Sun, 20 Mar 2016 04:51:08 +0000 (UTC), you wrote:

Hi David,

One of my equipment having ?plastic type CAP with transparent case [look like label ?number 1 at this link]?
I am try to replace it with??metalized polyester film capacitor from Panasonic with same value and same volt rating, they look like [], they look very different from original cap. ?This new one look more like ?label number ?4 & 5 [?].

Is there any compatible issues? or ?number [1] actually older technology no longer in used? I can find any similar cap from ?element 14
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Re: Huge Databook collection now uploaded

 

Many, many thanks for all your efforts! Great!

Best regards

pudu51


Re: Huge Databook collection now uploaded

 

That's awesome and very helpful. Thank you.

Peter

On 3/25/2016 10:53 AM, walter2@... [TekScopes] wrote:

All the digitized semiconductor data books we collected over the years at Sphere, along with tubes, app notes, time codes, and tek/hp cross-refs and concepts are now up in the first location, thanks to John Allen (K1AE). he has parked them here on his google drive, nicely laid out by the book categories:



Click on the image, then use the top located download arrow to grab the file. Paul Swed is also transferring the collection to Didier's site for easy retrieval, but this will take a while to transfer and index. Many thanks to all the good net citizens who scanned and preserved these, and have kept them alive. Hopefully these common repositories will make it easy to find and retrieve them for years to come. For those coming up for stuff day, I have them on DVD, you can save your bandwidth.

If anybody has the old classic semiconductor reference guides motorola put out, that list every single !N, 2N and 3N registered number, please let me know! That's the one thing I haven't located, other than my paper copies.

Hope these prove useful, they really cover a lot of ground.
all the best,
walter (walter2 -at- sphere.bc.ca)
sphere research corp.






Re: Huge Databook collection now uploaded

 

The databooks are an excellent contribution to the forum. Thanks Walter.

Reed Dickinson



On 3/25/2016 8:33 AM, 'Craig Sawyers' c.sawyers@...
[TekScopes] wrote:

Wow - thanks for that Walter!

Cheers

Craig

-----Original Message-----
From: TekScopes@... [mailto:TekScopes@...]
Sent: 25 March 2016 14:54
To: TekScopes@...
Subject: [TekScopes] Huge Databook collection now uploaded

All the digitized semiconductor data books we collected over the
years at Sphere, along with
tubes,
app notes, time codes, and tek/hp cross-refs and concepts are now up
in the first location, thanks
to
John Allen (K1AE). he has parked them here on his google drive,
nicely laid out by the book
categories:




Click on the image, then use the top located download arrow to grab
the file. Paul Swed is also
transferring the collection to Didier's site for easy retrieval, but
this will take a while to
transfer and
index. Many thanks to all the good net citizens who scanned and
preserved these, and have kept
them alive. Hopefully these common repositories will make it easy to
find and retrieve them for
years
to come. For those coming up for stuff day, I have them on DVD, you
can save your bandwidth.

If anybody has the old classic semiconductor reference guides
motorola put out, that list every
single
!N, 2N and 3N registered number, please let me know! That's the one
thing I haven't located, other
than my paper copies.

Hope these prove useful, they really cover a lot of ground.
all the best,
walter (walter2 -at- sphere.bc.ca)
sphere research corp.









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Re: Huge Databook collection now uploaded

Craig Sawyers
 

Wow - thanks for that Walter!

Cheers

Craig

-----Original Message-----
From: TekScopes@... [mailto:TekScopes@...]
Sent: 25 March 2016 14:54
To: TekScopes@...
Subject: [TekScopes] Huge Databook collection now uploaded

All the digitized semiconductor data books we collected over the years at Sphere, along with
tubes,
app notes, time codes, and tek/hp cross-refs and concepts are now up in the first location, thanks
to
John Allen (K1AE). he has parked them here on his google drive, nicely laid out by the book
categories:




Click on the image, then use the top located download arrow to grab the file. Paul Swed is also
transferring the collection to Didier's site for easy retrieval, but this will take a while to
transfer and
index. Many thanks to all the good net citizens who scanned and preserved these, and have kept
them alive. Hopefully these common repositories will make it easy to find and retrieve them for
years
to come. For those coming up for stuff day, I have them on DVD, you can save your bandwidth.

If anybody has the old classic semiconductor reference guides motorola put out, that list every
single
!N, 2N and 3N registered number, please let me know! That's the one thing I haven't located, other
than my paper copies.

Hope these prove useful, they really cover a lot of ground.
all the best,
walter (walter2 -at- sphere.bc.ca)
sphere research corp.









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Huge Databook collection now uploaded

 

All the digitized semiconductor data books we collected over the years at Sphere, along with tubes, app notes, time codes, and tek/hp cross-refs and concepts are now up in the first location, thanks to John Allen (K1AE). he has parked them here on his google drive, nicely laid out by the book categories:



Click on the image, then use the top located download arrow to grab the file. Paul Swed is also transferring the collection to Didier's site for easy retrieval, but this will take a while to transfer and index. Many thanks to all the good net citizens who scanned and preserved these, and have kept them alive. Hopefully these common repositories will make it easy to find and retrieve them for years to come. For those coming up for stuff day, I have them on DVD, you can save your bandwidth.

If anybody has the old classic semiconductor reference guides motorola put out, that list every single !N, 2N and 3N registered number, please let me know! That's the one thing I haven't located, other than my paper copies.

Hope these prove useful, they really cover a lot of ground.
all the best,
walter (walter2 -at- sphere.bc.ca)
sphere research corp.


Re: 7844

 

I went back and tested it again revealing some problems which were not
apparent before. The 7CT1N was definitely not designed to operate
this way.

It works well enough in alternate mode but that has some
disadvantages. It should work in chop mode but the logic built around
Q204 and Q208 disables the collector supply between chops (why?) and
the chopping rate is so high that the collector supply amplifier and
probably later stages cannot keep up. Removing Q212 should fix this
and it does allow it to work in a horizontal slot but in a vertical
slot it still has problems with vertical smearing.

So without modifying the 7CT1N, it would appear that using a 7844 is
the way to go.

My 7CT1N is a little weird and is probably not operating quite as well
as it should so it may be that the vertical chopping artifacts are
peculiar to it.

On Thu, 24 Mar 2016 22:18:58 -0700, you wrote:

Hi David,
I never tried this experiment in a regular 4 slot MF. My conclusion was that
I needed the dual independent beams but I don't remember the reason. There
may be a way to do it provided you don't try to make it too complicated and
if I had the ALT and CHOP settings correct. But there would be a lot of beam
switching going on and I don't know how that would affect the curves on the
screen. They may get chopped up pretty badly

The 7844 didn't care whether the 7CT1N was in the Horizontal or the vertical
slot. No beam switching was necessary so each set of curves was perfect. I
did repeat the test on the 7844 with both 7CT1Ns in the vertical slots and
then with both in the horizontal slots and finally with one 7CT1N in one
horizontal slot and the other 7CT1N in one vertical slot. So maybe what I
was trying to prove was the incredible versatility of the 7844. It is
definitely an amazing scope!

Dennis Tillman W7PF


Re: 8,000 Member Milestone

 

On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 09:21:01PM -0700, 'Dennis Tillman' dennis@... [TekScopes] wrote:
As their prize I had in mind that each of us donate one broken plugin or
scope to them.

That way they would have no choice but to be lifetime members. It should
take them that long to fix them all.



Don't ask me how I know this.



Dennis Tillman W7PF
No need to ask :-)

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Re: the Fuse in a DM501A

 

thanks much, Dennis, I'll check them out too.

john ai4to

On 03/25/2016 01:06 AM, 'Dennis Tillman' dennis@... [TekScopes]
wrote:

Hi John,
My DM501A has an AGC 2A (fast blow) fuse in it.
The usual failure is a blown tantalum filter cap.

Try this:
1) Put a jumper across the fuse and check for a short between the
power supply fingers on the back of the plugin before wasting another
2A fuse in the fuse clips.
2) Perform a visual check of all tantalum caps and corresponding
series resistors (usually 10 to 20 ohms) that are located nearby.

Dennis Tillman W7PF

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Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2016 6:52 PM
Subject: [TekScopes] the Fuse in a DM501A

I have been unable to find an electrical parts listing for the AGC
fuse in my DM501A. The present one (blown) is 2 Amps. This seems a bit
low to me, maybe 2.5 or 3?

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Re: 8,000 Member Milestone

 

On 25 March 2016 at 04:21, 'Dennis Tillman' dennis@... [TekScopes]
<TekScopes@...> wrote:

As their prize I had in mind that each of us donate one broken plugin or
scope to them.

That way they would have no choice but to be lifetime members. It should
take them that long to fix them all.
?I think we just need to present them with a working oscilloscope with just
one broken knob and a note to say that they it's cheaper to buy a parts
mule with a good knob than a NOS knob. They will then be stuck in the
endless cycle of fixing equipment? and finding parts.

Malcolm


Re: TDS 54x Acquisition troubleshooting

 

TL074/TL072 work fine. Glad the schematics have made it to KO4BB.

I'm not too sure what the voltages should be at those test points. I would strongly suggest tying to find a GPIB adaptor somehow as it makes this debugging quite a lot easier. I had problems with the error log getting too long to find the latest errors.


Even if the traces looks like they are connected make sure to check them with a multimeter for continuity.


Simon