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Re: Any Recommended Books/URLs for _Absolute_ 'Scope Beginners?

 

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In addition to the "XYZs of Oscilloscopes" previously mentioned, a more in-depth understanding can be gained by looking at the Tektronix "Circuit Concepts" series of books. PDFs of these may be found at David DiGiacomo's website .

DaveD

On 1/27/2014 8:11 AM, Bob Vines wrote:

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Since many of the Group members that post regularly seem to have up to
30-40+ years of oscilloscope experience, can you recommend good 'scope
books or URLs for _absolute_ beginners? How did _you_ learn to use
'scopes? How did you learn where to use them? How did you learn
where/when _not_ to use them?

In my case, I've got a 453, not a (relatively modern) digital 'scope.
Are there any (old) good books that I should try to buy to learn the
proper use of a 'scope of the "453 vintage"? My experience with a
'scope isn't nonexistent, but I feel that it is so minimal that I risk
damaging the 'scope, the circuit(s) I'm testing, and myself.

I'm most likely to use my 'scope for troubleshooting vintage computers
like DEC's PDP-8/PDP-11 families of minicomputers and peripherals.
They range from blinkenlights & switches with core memory to what are
almost "PCs" (microprocessor & semiconductor memories). And other
"vintage" home computers and peripherals too. Are there any
particular books that you recommend for troubleshooting (vintage)
computer equipment?

Thanks,

Bob



Re: Any Recommended Books/URLs for _Absolute_ 'Scope Beginners?

 

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If you don't mind watching a 2 hour YouTube video, this is an outstanding one:


Respectfully,
Cliff White, W5CNW
w5cnw@...
On 01/27/2014 09:43 AM, Paul Amaranth wrote:

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Do a google search for XYZs of Oscilloscopes. That's a great primer
Tektronix put out. You can download it from Tektronix after registering,
or there are other copies floating about.

Do you have any PDP8s? A PDP8-i was the second computer I ever
worked with. I guess that dates me.

On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 10:11:01AM -0500, Bob Vines wrote:
> Since many of the Group members that post regularly seem to have up to
> 30-40+ years of oscilloscope experience, can you recommend good 'scope
> books or URLs for _absolute_ beginners? How did _you_ learn to use
> 'scopes? How did you learn where to use them? How did you learn
> where/when _not_ to use them?
>
> In my case, I've got a 453, not a (relatively modern) digital 'scope.
> Are there any (old) good books that I should try to buy to learn the
> proper use of a 'scope of the "453 vintage"? My experience with a
> 'scope isn't nonexistent, but I feel that it is so minimal that I risk
> damaging the 'scope, the circuit(s) I'm testing, and myself.
>
> I'm most likely to use my 'scope for troubleshooting vintage computers
> like DEC's PDP-8/PDP-11 families of minicomputers and peripherals.
> They range from blinkenlights & switches with core memory to what are
> almost "PCs" (microprocessor & semiconductor memories). And other
> "vintage" home computers and peripherals too. Are there any
> particular books that you recommend for troubleshooting (vintage)
> computer equipment?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bob

--
Paul Amaranth, GCIH | Rochester MI, USA
Aurora Group, Inc. | Security, Systems & Software
paul@... | Unix & Windows



Re: Any Recommended Books/URLs for _Absolute_ 'Scope Beginners?

 

Do a google search for XYZs of Oscilloscopes. That's a great primer
Tektronix put out. You can download it from Tektronix after registering,
or there are other copies floating about.

Do you have any PDP8s? A PDP8-i was the second computer I ever
worked with. I guess that dates me.

On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 10:11:01AM -0500, Bob Vines wrote:
Since many of the Group members that post regularly seem to have up to
30-40+ years of oscilloscope experience, can you recommend good 'scope
books or URLs for _absolute_ beginners? How did _you_ learn to use
'scopes? How did you learn where to use them? How did you learn
where/when _not_ to use them?

In my case, I've got a 453, not a (relatively modern) digital 'scope.
Are there any (old) good books that I should try to buy to learn the
proper use of a 'scope of the "453 vintage"? My experience with a
'scope isn't nonexistent, but I feel that it is so minimal that I risk
damaging the 'scope, the circuit(s) I'm testing, and myself.

I'm most likely to use my 'scope for troubleshooting vintage computers
like DEC's PDP-8/PDP-11 families of minicomputers and peripherals.
They range from blinkenlights & switches with core memory to what are
almost "PCs" (microprocessor & semiconductor memories). And other
"vintage" home computers and peripherals too. Are there any
particular books that you recommend for troubleshooting (vintage)
computer equipment?


Thanks,

Bob
--
Paul Amaranth, GCIH | Rochester MI, USA
Aurora Group, Inc. | Security, Systems & Software
paul@... | Unix & Windows


Any Recommended Books/URLs for _Absolute_ 'Scope Beginners?

 

Since many of the Group members that post regularly seem to have up to
30-40+ years of oscilloscope experience, can you recommend good 'scope
books or URLs for _absolute_ beginners? How did _you_ learn to use
'scopes? How did you learn where to use them? How did you learn
where/when _not_ to use them?

In my case, I've got a 453, not a (relatively modern) digital 'scope.
Are there any (old) good books that I should try to buy to learn the
proper use of a 'scope of the "453 vintage"? My experience with a
'scope isn't nonexistent, but I feel that it is so minimal that I risk
damaging the 'scope, the circuit(s) I'm testing, and myself.

I'm most likely to use my 'scope for troubleshooting vintage computers
like DEC's PDP-8/PDP-11 families of minicomputers and peripherals.
They range from blinkenlights & switches with core memory to what are
almost "PCs" (microprocessor & semiconductor memories). And other
"vintage" home computers and peripherals too. Are there any
particular books that you recommend for troubleshooting (vintage)
computer equipment?


Thanks,

Bob


Re: 1A4 Plug-In "Invert Switch" - Tektronix Part No. 260-0723-00

 

The terminal shape determines the stand-off above the PCB, also for the original Continental Wirt switch. The proper terminal style can be choosen from:
http://switches-connectors-custom.cwind.com/attributeimage?&plpver=10&assetid=1448&attname=Terminal+Option

Albert


Re: 1A4 Plug-In "Invert Switch" - Tektronix Part No. 260-0723-00

 

Took a closer look at the switches on mine. The logo is for CW Switches.


http://switches-connectors-custom.cwind.com/item/miniature-slide-switches/ted-panel-mount-miniature-slide-switches-swidgets-/item-1504?&plpver=10&origin=advsrch&by=prod&filter=0&categid=1125&prodid=1047


This is very close dimensionally.


http://www.digikey.ca/product-search/en?x=14&y=10&lang=en&site=ca&KeyWords=GF-126-0119


Not quite the same size of pins though.


Something I noticed is that the switches are installed a certain height from the PCB, but there's no standoff on the switches. If you decide to go through the trouble of replacing the switches, make sure they're put back in at the same height, otherwise I'm sure the "invert pull" won't work.


Re: 7A18A Mod 816H

 

Good Day,

This has triggered my curiousity, as I seemed to remember something like a MOD 818...

Here is my understanding of MOD 816H, after a few websearches and a brief reading over another Tektronix data sheet I have found on my computer:

* Tektronix has offered a modification named "MOD 816_G_" for some of
their oscilloscopes, such as for the 7603 and the 5400-series (the
latter was also named 5403N/D40 or D41).
* *MOD 816G* added *two rear-**input **connector**s**to the
mainframe*, to allow additional access to the left- and right bay
plug-in's inputs.
* Also, standard 10x probes were not recommended (additional
capacitance beyond common compensation range).
* Corresponding plug-ins to match were either equipped with "*MOD
816**_H_*" (such as the mentioned 7A18A) or "*MOD 818**_H_*" (in the
case of the 5A48 dual trace amplifier) for *the inputs.*
* Christian Weagle kindly provides a PDF document for MOD 818H for the
5A48 plug-in here:

So, Don was very close with his guess, but the additional input signals per MOD816H were connected before the attenuators, not after.

*My *own guess is that some special clientel has asked Tektronix for an easy means for additional signal connections at the rear; i.e. to connect generators for precision phase or amplitude measurements.

Other group members, former Tektronix-employees in particular, might chime in here.

Cheers,

Magnus

DON CRAMER:


My experience with MOD info is it's very scarce on the ground. So if I can be allowed to hazard a guess....
There are two coax connectors just visible in the top set of holes within the rear plastic frame. Normally these holes aren't used.
My guess is the channel signal, after the attenuators but ahead of the position pots, is cabled out the back, one per channel.
Hope that helps,
Don


Re: 7A18A Mod 816H

 

On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 12:09 AM, DON CRAMER <donlcramer@...> wrote:

My experience with MOD info is it's very scarce on the ground. So if I can be allowed to hazard a guess....
There are two coax connectors just visible in the top set of holes within the rear plastic frame. Normally these holes aren't used.
My guess is the channel signal, after the attenuators but ahead of the position pots, is cabled out the back, one per channel.
Hope that helps,
Don
I hadn't noticed those.

There was a discussion last week about another MOD and about those
coax connectors. I believe they were used in a GPIB capable mainframe
for setting the position (? hazy on that)

Search the archives to find out!

D.


Re: What has Tek been merged with? was: Re: In Topic! (oddly). Manual for Beckman 777 Oxygen Analyzer?

 

On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 7:14 AM, Stefan Trethan <stefan_trethan@...> wrote:
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Trojan, huh? Figures... "electronically tested"...

Of course, that is only part of the story.
Each of those companies may hold others, such as Tek owning Keithley....
Yeah I wonder what names have been swallowed over the years! We should
make a graph or something!

D.


Re: Dallas Chips and battery backup

 

DS1644 (TDS 3x0) and suggested replacement with the DS1744

I took a peek at the datasheet and there are a few differences:

DS1644
Unused locations could be used as regular memory
DS1744
Unused locations must be zero

DS1644
7FFC bit 7 is unused
DS1744
7FFC bit 7 is BF or (Battery Flag)
1 - when read, 0 - RCT and backed up RAM is questionable

DS1644
W(7) R(6) Century(bits 0-3)
DS1744
W(7) R(6) used for whatever (bits 0-3)

W=Write and R=read control bits

So, it's not 100% guaranteed that he DS1744 would work.?

If the value of 7FF8 were read and then B7 or B8 changed than you might be able to set the Century with a programmer.? If they just used a constant, then the 10's century and the 00 century would always get programmed to 00.

So, that's a test that one might want to do:
IF the year could be set to, say 2014, with the programmer.? The date needs to be set with the TDS to see if it stays at 2014.





On Saturday, January 25, 2014 6:15 PM, KeepIt SimpleStupid wrote:
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On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 4:13 PM EST miketakeguess@... wrote:


I would expect it to pick up the previous date and time from the last time you set it. Your experiment tells me that a DS1645 (128k nvram without any RTC) would likely work the same as a D
S1556....because due to the memory map differences I think the DS1556 is acting just like an SRAM.
>
>
> Mike

Probably the SRAM would act like the last time it was set, but the mapped registers of the DS1645 and the DS1556 are way different.




Re: Tektronix 2710 Spectrum Analyzer Unable to Coun t (VCO,IF)

 

Hi !


Have you made any progress with Your 2710 SA ?


If the same msg appears when You disconnect the CFC board or the LOG board from the counters (microproc board) the malfunction can be at the log board or CFC board. For sure You should connect an oscilloscope to the counting outputs of the lopg board and cfc board and compare the signals (their amplitude should be more or less the same) .

The messages taht are described in teh manual are only partial and even if the msg is in the service manual it's description is very poor.


I think Youi should view teh signals form the log board and cfc board and compare them. Remember that the signal from the cfc board will be combined of two signals (depending on CNTSELA and CNTSELB)


Let? me know about the results.


Re: What has Tek been merged with? was: Re: In Topic! (oddly). Manual for Beckman 777 Oxygen Analyzer?

Stefan Trethan
 

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Of course, that is only part of the story.
Each of those companies may hold others, such as Tek owning Keithley....

Pretty soon all equipment will be made by Danaher and all components by Vishay.

ST

On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 11:37 PM, cheater00 . <cheater00@...> wrote:

Devious.

So what other sort-of Tek's are there?


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Re: 067-0532-00 Leveling head problem. Resonance?

 

Hi Albert,

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I was wondering whether there might be something wrong with the cable grounding since you can influence the output amplitude when placing a hand nearby.

Patrick Wong AK6C

---In TekScopes@..., <aodiversen@...> wrote:

Some time ago I reported that this 65-500 MHz GR-based oscillator had a nice flat frequency response. But at present the output amplitude is about 10% too high in a small region around 465 MHz. When I hold my hands at the head side cable end, or around the head, then the output amplitude (at an S-2) changes some 5-10%.
I found the hand effect also when feeding the disconnected cable with the output of my 220-900 MHz oscillator. That way I could observe that the diode detector voltage (measured inside the main unit) change relatively even more than the output amplitude. The effect on the output remained after disconnecting the detector diodes (that is after desoldering the 62R series resistor).
Now I was thinking of standing waves in the 5 ns cable, but the mentioned effect is only clearly present around 465 MHz. I also don't see why standing waves would have a different effect on output amplitude and detector voltage.
Any idea what could be going on here?
The detector head is the same as in the 067-0532-01 version of which a nice pdf is available at Tekwiki.

Albert


Re: 1A4 Plug-In "Invert Switch" - Tektronix Part No. 260-0723-00

 

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It seems everything in the 1A4 is in a hard-to-get-to place! I'm having to do some work on the channel 2 attenuator module. It was easiest, by far, to actually swap the channels 1 and 2 modules just to work on the bad one... Anyone who has seen the 1A4 knows how tricky even that is...

But all that is a price I'm very willing to pay for the superb capabilities of it. :) :)


Respectfully,
Cliff White, W5CNW
w5cnw@...
On 01/26/2014 06:43 PM, mda231@... wrote:

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@ Albert: Thanks for the source. - I may look into them.

- What I failed to make clear is that I'm in the UK, so would find it easier and more convenient to deal with people over here. But, if I can't find a more local supplier, Qservice may be the place.

@ snapdiode: Yes, I'll certainly give that eBay etc a try.

- I've already doused the switches with Servisol and there's definite improvement in three of them, but the behaviour isn't back to normal yet.

You're right, they are not in the most accessible of places. If I've got to do any major dismantling, I hope I don't damage anything else in the process...

Thanks for your response.

@ All: If anyone else knows somewhere in the UK who may carry these switches, please feel free to tell me

.


MDA.



Re: 2465 no traces, no OSD

 

--- In TekScopes@..., Bob Koller <testtech@...> wrote:

If the power supply seems OK, just turn up the CRT Bias pot and see if it lights up. A common failure is the Z-Axis hybrid, which, if bad, will cause no display. If a display appears, you may be able to see which self test is failing, and take it from there.
Sadly no joy on cranking the bias pot up. Thanks for the hint, though.





On Sunday, January 26, 2014 10:10 AM, machine guy <machineguy59@...> wrote:

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The very first thing I would do is check all voltages and ripple on J119.?? There is a table of specifications for this in the service manual section for power supply trouble shooting, just before the flow chart sections 10 and 11.??

If all J119 voltages and ripple are right I would use the working 2465 you have to check signals going to the CRT.?? Especially check the unblanking signals, VZOUT and VGOUT, the prescribed waveforms are given in the service manual (waveforms 65 and 66 in the 2465 Service manual).????If there is activity closely resembling the prescribed activity in shape and, especially, amplitude the scope is trying to drive the CRT.?? The problem is very likey the high voltage board (A9) or the CRT itself.

If you have a high voltage probe you can just measure the voltage on the CRT anode pole.?? But don't do this if you??lack experience with high voltage measurement techniques as the voltage here is 14,000 volts or more.

It sounds to me that the scope is trying to operate??and there are some good indications.?? When there??are faults known to the scopes computer (board A5) it presents an error message on the CRT ("Test xxx fail?? Push A/B trigger") and the scope then tries to operate.?? But since your screen is blank??you cannot see this message.?? If there were high voltage and a VZ signal you should at least see a bright spot on the CRT.?? Since you cannot, either there is no high voltage, no VZ, or the CRT may not be lighting up??(no filament or just a??bad CRT).

You can go to the Qservice web site and see pictures of every subassembly for reference of how they should look.?? Tektronix produced these scopes for several years and used different generations of capacitors.?? So boards will look different from generation to generation but the overall layout will remain the same and there whould be uniformity within a particular build.

From: Sigur?°ur ??sgeirsson <siggi@...>
To: TekScopes@...
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 11:38 AM
Subject: [TekScopes] 2465 no traces, no OSD



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Hi y'all,

I just bought a 2467 on eBay. It came with option 9 - which I understand is the counter/timer? Unfortunately it doesn't seem to light up the CRT at all, no traces, no OSD.

On power-up, it does seem to go into diagnosis, as I have to hit one specific front-panel control before it'll respond to any others. After this, I can mess with the front panel controls, and e.g. the channel/trigger lights all toggle with their corresponding buttons. However, any time I change any setting, all the front panel LEDs flicker. Also, when I set channels 1/2 to the 50 Ohm input setting, they stick for about a second or so, but then I hear a relay toggle again, and the GND input lights up again.
Do those symptoms ring a bell with anyone here?

I took it apart and pulled the PSU??to see whether there's anything obviously broken. It looks to me like the PSU has been re-capped, as there's a mix of colors on there. I tested all the rails, and they look about right, though I couldn't load the 5V with more than a single 7.5 ohm resistance at a time. When I loaded J303, I saw an undershoot for a second or two, then it seemed to drop into regulation at ~4.9V. The 7.5 ohm on J232 didn't quite seem to be enough load, though the voltage dropped a fair bit when I did it. The 10V reference was spot on, as were e.g. the 87 and the +-15 rails.

The others were all high, but then they were unloaded...

I guess next I'll measure the rails with the PSU in-place, check ripple etc?
Are there any pictures here of 2467/2465A PSUs in original condition that I might use for comparison?
Are there other quick things I can look at to assess the damage/hopes of repair?
I understand the 2467 has a "screen saver" that'll shut down the CRT on a timer? Presumably this is under digital control - so I'm hopeful that the CRT or control circuitry isn't beyond rescue?

I have a functional 2465 I was hoping to replace with this one, so I can have peek around.

Siggi


Re: 2465 no traces, no OSD

 

--- In TekScopes@..., machine guy <machineguy59@...> wrote:

The very first thing I would do is check all voltages and ripple on J119.?? There is a table of specifications for this in the service manual section for power supply trouble shooting, just before the flow chart sections 10 and 11.??
The rails all look good, nicely inside specs and nary a ripple in sight.

If all J119 voltages and ripple are right I would use the working 2465 you have to check signals going to the CRT.?? Especially check the unblanking signals, VZOUT and VGOUT, the prescribed waveforms are given in the service manual (waveforms 65 and 66 in the 2465 Service manual).????If there is activity closely resembling the prescribed activity in shape and, especially, amplitude the scope is trying to drive the CRT.?? The problem is very likey the high voltage board (A9) or the CRT itself.
Ugh, I see I mistitled my post - the scope's a 2467, though I suspect it's much the same at the level I'm grousing?
I had some trouble orienting myself between the scaled-down printout of the schematic the poor lighting where I'm trying to do this.
There are cutouts in the main PCB where it feeds off to the CRT - is it the aftermost one of those that's VZOUT/VGOUT? The signal on there didn't look altogether alien, though the levels didn't look right - I'll have to look again in the light of day...

If you have a high voltage probe you can just measure the voltage on the CRT anode pole.?? But don't do this if you??lack experience with high voltage measurement techniques as the voltage here is 14,000 volts or more.

It sounds to me that the scope is trying to operate??and there are some good indications.?? When there??are faults known to the scopes computer (board A5) it presents an error message on the CRT ("Test xxx fail?? Push A/B trigger") and the scope then tries to operate.?? But since your screen is blank??you cannot see this message.?? If there were high voltage and a VZ signal you should at least see a bright spot on the CRT.?? Since you cannot, either there is no high voltage, no VZ, or the CRT may not be lighting up??(no filament or just a??bad CRT).
Thanks - it starting to look like a terminal failure to me (for someone of my limited skill and knowledge) - alas :(.

You can go to the Qservice web site and see pictures of every subassembly for reference of how they should look.?? Tektronix produced these scopes for several years and used different generations of capacitors.?? So boards will look different from generation to generation but the overall layout will remain the same and there whould be uniformity within a particular build.


________________________________
From: Sigur?°ur ??sgeirsson <siggi@...>
To: TekScopes@...
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2014 11:38 AM
Subject: [TekScopes] 2465 no traces, no OSD



??
Hi y'all,

I just bought a 2467 on eBay. It came with option 9 - which I understand is the counter/timer? Unfortunately it doesn't seem to light up the CRT at all, no traces, no OSD.

On power-up, it does seem to go into diagnosis, as I have to hit one specific front-panel control before it'll respond to any others. After this, I can mess with the front panel controls, and e.g. the channel/trigger lights all toggle with their corresponding buttons. However, any time I change any setting, all the front panel LEDs flicker. Also, when I set channels 1/2 to the 50 Ohm input setting, they stick for about a second or so, but then I hear a relay toggle again, and the GND input lights up again.
Do those symptoms ring a bell with anyone here?

I took it apart and pulled the PSU??to see whether there's anything obviously broken. It looks to me like the PSU has been re-capped, as there's a mix of colors on there. I tested all the rails, and they look about right, though I couldn't load the 5V with more than a single 7.5 ohm resistance at a time. When I loaded J303, I saw an undershoot for a second or two, then it seemed to drop into regulation at ~4.9V. The 7.5 ohm on J232 didn't quite seem to be enough load, though the voltage dropped a fair bit when I did it. The 10V reference was spot on, as were e.g. the 87 and the +-15 rails.

The others were all high, but then they were unloaded...

I guess next I'll measure the rails with the PSU in-place, check ripple etc?
Are there any pictures here of 2467/2465A PSUs in original condition that I might use for comparison?
Are there other quick things I can look at to assess the damage/hopes of repair?
I understand the 2467 has a "screen saver" that'll shut down the CRT on a timer? Presumably this is under digital control - so I'm hopeful that the CRT or control circuitry isn't beyond rescue?

I have a functional 2465 I was hoping to replace with this one, so I can have peek around.

Siggi


Re: 1A4 Plug-In "Invert Switch" - Tektronix Part No. 260-0723-00

 

@ Albert: Thanks for the source. - I may look into them.

- What I failed to make clear is that I'm in the UK, so would find it easier and more convenient to deal with people over here. But, if I can't find a more local supplier, Qservice may be the place.

@ snapdiode: Yes, I'll certainly give that eBay etc a try.

- I've already doused the switches with Servisol and there's definite improvement in three of them, but the behaviour isn't back to normal yet.

You're right, they are not in the most accessible of places. If I've got to do any major dismantling, I hope I don't damage anything else in the process...

Thanks for your response.

@ All: If anyone else knows somewhere in the UK who may carry these switches, please feel free to tell me

.


MDA.


Re: 1A4 Plug-In "Invert Switch" - Tektronix Part No. 260-0723-00

 

Search for slide switch DPDT on your usual sources like eBay and Digikey. They still make 'em but I don't know if they're the right size.

My approach would be to flood the switches with contact cleaner first.

They're in a bit of an inconvenient location though, eh?


Re: 7A18A Mod 816H

DON CRAMER
 

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My experience with MOD info is it's very scarce on the ground. ?So if I can be allowed to hazard a guess....
There are two coax connectors just visible in the top set of holes within the rear plastic frame. ?Normally these holes aren't used.
My guess is the channel signal, after the attenuators but ahead of the position pots, is cabled out the back, one per channel.
Hope that helps,
Don


To: TekScopes@...
From: eggeja2@...
Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2014 00:34:45 -0800
Subject: [TekScopes] 7A18A Mod 816H



Hi to All,
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Just spotted on eBay a 7A18A Mod 816H. Anybody who knows what this Mod means?
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Greetings,
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Egge Siert



Re: 2246 power supply

 

Thanks!
I will check that out.

On 1/26/2014 3:39 PM, chipbee40@... wrote:


Surprised no ones helped you on this. On the 2246 its rare that the large 3 pin secondary electrolytics fail. The common fault causing tripping is C2210 (4.7uF), usually accompanied by failure of Q2209 or Q2210 (TIP32C are ok replacements if I remember right). Components around C2210 will look burned and overheated but are almost always ok. If you are unlucky Q2214 fails also. You can test the power supply out of the case using the fan as a load for a quick test. (Carefully!) Beyond those component fails, the switching transformer and multiplier can fail. (Disconnect the flying lead from the transformer to check the multiplier)
The secondary diodes also fail, 4 are schottky and show low on a test meter but are usually ok, the others should read the usual 0.6 or whatever your test meter shows for a standard diode.The 3 pin caps need to be low ESR, so if you bought standard caps I would put the originals back in as they are good quality caps.

Point of caution, if you run the supply on its own the 3 pins near the multiplier (tube heater) will retain a nice surprise for you long after powering off

If you are not familiar with switching supplies BE CAREFUL! They can be lethal. JC




---In TekScopes@..., <chris@...> wrote:

I had posted about my 2246 scope a few days
ago but have had no replies.

I have the feeling the 22xx power supplies issue
has been covered and maybe people are tired of it?

I am poor with the Yahoo group search function.
I have been able to dredge up that capacitors
and the ZS/ZM diodes are to be replaced and
that sometimes a transformer fails.

The symptoms I have are that I am in chirp mode
if the main board is attached.

Without the main board the scope will come up but
my cheapie volt meter reads -41VDC when I go
black to the chassis and red to the 43V TP on the power
supply board.

I do have a lot of the black ZS diodes. I have changed
out all the silver colored, grounded case electrolytics.
I have not changed out the big initial electrolytic or a
couple of small ones.

Any advice for me?