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Dang! If you scroll down from the bezel treatment, he used a pantograph
engraver to make button text,
filled with epoxy, then filed and polished to look like new gambling dice!

Truly fine looking, but I think I'll just look.

My scopes don't get quite that perfect... but then, my old sports car is not
restored to concours near perfection either...

How do you make one?

On Mon, May 6, 2024 at 12:41?AM jspencerg via groups.io
<jspencerg@...> wrote:

It is easy to make an electroscope. Walk around store with your finger on the electrode and observe when you get charged. Wear a foil hat if you don't want to answer any questions.

Maybe you’re talking about Robin Renzetti:

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?ann sun., 5. maí 2024 kl. 21:25 skrifa?i n4buq via groups.io <n4buq=
[email protected]>:

About a year or so ago, I found a website (possibly youtube video) where
the guy performed an electric and mechanical restoration on a 7000 series
scope (I think it was a 7603 but possibly 7613, 7623, 7633). The scope
looked almost brand new and I would like to review that material if
possible. Does this sound familiar to anyone here?

Thanks,
Barry - N4BUQ

From: "Sigur?ur ?sgeirsson via groups.io" <siggi@...>
To: "tekscopes" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, May 6, 2024 5:10:38 AM
Subject: Re: [TekScopes] 7603(?) Restoration

Maybe you’re talking about Robin Renzetti:

.

?ann sun., 5. maí 2024 kl. 21:25 skrifa?i n4buq via groups.io <n4buq=
[email protected]>:

About a year or so ago, I found a website (possibly youtube video) where
the guy performed an electric and mechanical restoration on a 7000 series
scope (I think it was a 7603 but possibly 7613, 7623, 7633). The scope
looked almost brand new and I would like to review that material if
possible. Does this sound familiar to anyone here?

Thanks,
Barry - N4BUQ

About a year or so ago, I found a website (possibly youtube video) where
the guy performed an electric and mechanical restoration on a 7000 series
scope (I think it was a 7603 but possibly 7613, 7623, 7633). The scope
looked almost brand new and I would like to review that material if
possible. Does this sound familiar to anyone here?

Thanks,
Barry - N4BUQ

Hi Harvey,

That's been my belief as well. Years ago a friend and I compared our two 7704A scopes, one with opt. 9 and one without. We couldn't identify any obvious differences in circuitry. Of course, Tek could've selected some critical devices for the opt 9 mainframes, but since we couldn't see any references in the documentation that suggested that this was going on, we discarded that theory. I remember reading a sentence somewhere that the opt. 9 units were calibrated for higher bandwidth, seemingly implying that all they did was effect a different tradeoff during calibration between transient response (or frequency response flatness) and bandwidth, allowing some degradation in the former for a boost in the latter.

That said, the non-opt 9 scope didn't have significantly worse bandwidth (IIRC, it was around 230MHz or so anyway), so the difference was 10-15%, or within tweaking range of each other, as you surmise. It's probably the case that many (maybe most) non-opt 9 units can be tweaked to hit 250 MHz.

--Tom

From: "n4buq" <n4buq@...>
To: "tekscopes" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, May 5, 2024 8:17:28 PM
Subject: [TekScopes] 7704A - Option 9?

Does anyone know what was done to the 7704A for Option 9 (250MHz BW)? All I'm
finding is the definition but not what changed to accomplish that. The sticker
on the back of one of my 7704As states such and I'm curious what was changed
for that option.

Thanks,
Barry - N4BUQ

Hi Harvey,

That's been my belief as well. Years ago a friend and I compared our two
7704A scopes, one with opt. 9 and one without. We couldn't identify any
obvious differences in circuitry. Of course, Tek could've selected some
critical devices for the opt 9 mainframes, but since we couldn't see any
references in the documentation that suggested that this was going on,
we discarded that theory. I remember reading a sentence somewhere that
the opt. 9 units were calibrated for higher bandwidth, seemingly
implying that all they did was effect a different tradeoff during
calibration between transient response (or frequency response flatness)
and bandwidth, allowing some degradation in the former for a boost in
the latter.

That said, the non-opt 9 scope didn't have significantly worse bandwidth
(IIRC, it was around 230MHz or so anyway), so the difference was 10-15%,
or within tweaking range of each other, as you surmise. It's probably
the case that many (maybe most) non-opt 9 units can be tweaked to hit
250 MHz.

--Tom

--
Prof. Thomas H. Lee
Allen Ctr., Rm. 205
420 Via Palou Mall
Stanford University
Stanford, CA 94305-4070


On 5/5/2024 6:39 PM, Harvey White wrote:

I just spent a little time going through the (printed) manual. Mine's
revised as of 1981 and does cover the option 9 scopes.

I don't see anything on the schematic about option 9.? Easy to miss,
though.

What I do see is that the adjustments are slightly different, testing
the vertical amplifier at 280 Mhz rather than 230, with different
tolerances on the risetime, etc.

I suspect it was a tradeoff between overall flatness and bandwidth,
performed by adjustment.

Harvey