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Spectrum Analyzer

David C. Hallam
 

I am looking for a good used spectrum analyzer and am not familiar with the
Tektronix line of equipment. I don't need the latest and greatest, but just
a reliable unit that will cover the spectrum of 1 KHz to about 150 MHz.
Cost is a consideration as I would use it infrequently.

My hobby is refurbishing old tube type amateur radio equipment. What I am
looking for would be a unit similar to a 8557A or 8553B in the HP line.

Can anyone suggest something in TEK line that would be of value to me?

David
KC2JD/4


Re: Need MC4035P chip for a DC503

 

Peter, thas is an MMC which is a 4000 series cmos IC that is equal to the
CD4053.
The MC4035P is a motorola "only" IC, much older with no equivalent as far as I
know.

Ooops, sorry - so again the wrong part.
I had a look for this part in our stock but I could not find one...
Sorry.

Ciao
Peter

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Re: Need MC4035P chip for a DC503

Luis Cupido
 

Peter, thas is an MMC which is a 4000 series cmos IC
that is equal to the CD4053.

The MC4035P is a motorola "only" IC, much older
with no equivalent as far as I know.

Luis
ct1dmk

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ullrich Peter" <peter.ullrich@...>
To: <jbarnes@...>; <TekScopes@...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 12:49 PM
Subject: AW: [TekScopes] Re: Need MC4035P chip for a DC503


Here is a datasheet for it:



Ciao
Peter



-----Urspr???ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: TekScopes@... [mailto:TekScopes@...] Im Auftrag von
jbarnes
Gesendet: Dienstag, 30. J???nner 2007 13:40
An: TekScopes@...
Betreff: Re: [TekScopes] Re: Need MC4035P chip for a DC503

Luis is absolutely right. I am pretty sure that the design of the DC503 was
before 4000 series of CMOS was invented.

I did find a referenceto the MC4035P. It was described as a quad 'D' type latch
with open collector outputs.

I looked at the schematics of the later DC50xA counters and they do not use
these chips.

I think the best source is another DC503. They are selling pretty cheap on eBay.


Regards,

John





Correct,

The MC4035 is NOT a CD4035

(the MC14035 is a CD4035).

luis c.
ct1dmk




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Re: Need MC4035P chip for a DC503

 

Here is a datasheet for it:



Ciao
Peter



-----Urspr¨¹ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: TekScopes@... [mailto:TekScopes@...] Im Auftrag von
jbarnes
Gesendet: Dienstag, 30. J?nner 2007 13:40
An: TekScopes@...
Betreff: Re: [TekScopes] Re: Need MC4035P chip for a DC503

Luis is absolutely right. I am pretty sure that the design of the DC503 was
before 4000 series of CMOS was invented.

I did find a referenceto the MC4035P. It was described as a quad 'D' type latch
with open collector outputs.

I looked at the schematics of the later DC50xA counters and they do not use
these chips.

I think the best source is another DC503. They are selling pretty cheap on eBay.


Regards,

John





Correct,

The MC4035 is NOT a CD4035

(the MC14035 is a CD4035).

luis c.
ct1dmk




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Re: amateur tries to diagnose Tek 2465 blanking problem (long)

Russ
 

I found on my 2467 that the connections to the CRT plates are very close to the holes in the metal chassis to pass the wires through. I had to bend mine slightly to fix an intermittent problem somewhat similar to yours. I think the tube could possibly shift enough, especially if the scope has been shipped, to allow these connections to short to the chassis. Worth a look anyway before getting too involved with the electronics. (When in doubt scope it out.)

Russ WQ3X


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Re: Need MC4035P chip for a DC503

 

Luis is absolutely right. I am pretty sure that the design of the DC503 was before 4000 series of CMOS was invented.

I did find a referenceto the MC4035P. It was described as a quad 'D' type latch with open collector outputs.

I looked at the schematics of the later DC50xA counters and they do not use these chips.

I think the best source is another DC503. They are selling pretty cheap on eBay.

Regards,

John





Correct,

The MC4035 is NOT a CD4035

(the MC14035 is a CD4035).

luis c.
ct1dmk




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Re: Need MC4035P chip for a DC503

Luis Cupido
 

Correct,

The MC4035 is NOT a CD4035

(the MC14035 is a CD4035).

luis c.
ct1dmk

----- Original Message -----
From: "faustian.spirit" <faustian.spirit@...>
To: <TekScopes@...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 9:00 AM
Subject: [TekScopes] Re: Need MC4035P chip for a DC503


Would the Mot equivalent for a CD4035 not be MC14035, as opposed to
MC4035?
--- In TekScopes@..., "Dan Meeks" <dan-meeks@...> wrote:

I have a CD4035AN if you want it.
I can't tell if it's the same as the MC4035P (the pkg should be the
same).
Here's a data sheet for the CD4035 if it helps you sleuth it out -

You're welcome to it, just give me your address -
Dan
_____ From: TekScopes@... [mailto:TekScopes@...]
On Behalf
Of georgeplhak
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 7:28 PM
To: TekScopes@...
Subject: [TekScopes] Need MC4035P chip for a DC503
I could tell the story of how I blew up this previously working
counter by plugging it into a TM500 frame with some rear interface
wiring and a broken key, if anyone is interested in a cautionary tale?
In any case, today I have found the last of about seven chips that
were fried and the counter now works again except for the most
significant digit for which I need one of these Motorola latches.
Many online parts places say that they have these chips but have multi
hundred dollar minimum orders.
Can anyone please suggest a reasonable source, or might you have one
or two onhand that I could purchase?
Thanks much
George Plhak
Acton, Ontario, Canada
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Re: Need MC4035P chip for a DC503

faustian.spirit
 

Would the Mot equivalent for a CD4035 not be MC14035, as opposed to
MC4035?

--- In TekScopes@..., "Dan Meeks" <dan-meeks@...> wrote:

I have a CD4035AN if you want it.

I can't tell if it's the same as the MC4035P (the pkg should be the
same).

Here's a data sheet for the CD4035 if it helps you sleuth it out -







You're welcome to it, just give me your address -



Dan

_____

From: TekScopes@... [mailto:TekScopes@...]
On Behalf
Of georgeplhak
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 7:28 PM
To: TekScopes@...
Subject: [TekScopes] Need MC4035P chip for a DC503



I could tell the story of how I blew up this previously working
counter by plugging it into a TM500 frame with some rear interface
wiring and a broken key, if anyone is interested in a cautionary tale?

In any case, today I have found the last of about seven chips that
were fried and the counter now works again except for the most
significant digit for which I need one of these Motorola latches.

Many online parts places say that they have these chips but have multi
hundred dollar minimum orders.

Can anyone please suggest a reasonable source, or might you have one
or two onhand that I could purchase?

Thanks much

George Plhak
Acton, Ontario, Canada





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Re: Need MC4035P chip for a DC503

 

I have a CD4035AN if you want it.

I can't tell if it's the same as the MC4035P (the pkg should be the same).

Here's a data sheet for the CD4035 if it helps you sleuth it out -







You're welcome to it, just give me your address -



Dan

_____

From: TekScopes@... [mailto:TekScopes@...] On Behalf
Of georgeplhak
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 7:28 PM
To: TekScopes@...
Subject: [TekScopes] Need MC4035P chip for a DC503



I could tell the story of how I blew up this previously working
counter by plugging it into a TM500 frame with some rear interface
wiring and a broken key, if anyone is interested in a cautionary tale?

In any case, today I have found the last of about seven chips that
were fried and the counter now works again except for the most
significant digit for which I need one of these Motorola latches.

Many online parts places say that they have these chips but have multi
hundred dollar minimum orders.

Can anyone please suggest a reasonable source, or might you have one
or two onhand that I could purchase?

Thanks much

George Plhak
Acton, Ontario, Canada


Re: Need MC4035P chip for a DC503

georgeplhak
 

TEK DC503

--- In TekScopes@..., "jbarnes" <jbarnes@...> wrote:

George,

Can you tell us which counter?

John


Re: Need MC4035P chip for a DC503

 

George,

Can you tell us which counter?

John






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Need MC4035P chip for a DC503

georgeplhak
 

I could tell the story of how I blew up this previously working
counter by plugging it into a TM500 frame with some rear interface
wiring and a broken key, if anyone is interested in a cautionary tale?

In any case, today I have found the last of about seven chips that
were fried and the counter now works again except for the most
significant digit for which I need one of these Motorola latches.

Many online parts places say that they have these chips but have multi
hundred dollar minimum orders.

Can anyone please suggest a reasonable source, or might you have one
or two onhand that I could purchase?

Thanks much

George Plhak
Acton, Ontario, Canada


WTB Part 475A Help!

wb9iog
 

Finally got around to checking my "new" unit out and after
making a test stand for it and study the shipment damage done
to the B delay trigger slope/level control.

Just about got it solved then lost a small clip to hold the shaft
pressure against the variable resistance.
Need it!
Anyone got one? 10K pot with switch marked as 311-1192-00
10K 20 9250.
I suspect that a plane 475 would be the same; either A or B
control would work. Hope there are some junkers out there.
If you have one with a bad switch or defective variable that's
ok I can fix that my parts are good. It was just mechanical
damage. Knob for the variable ??

Dead in the water with out it.
Mike
Iowa

BTW the test stand I made probably works better than the standard
plastic shroud.


Re: 496P Scams on eBay

John Miles
 

If this is who I think it is (Carla Morris at Consolidated Surplus), they
are fine in my experience. I have bought and rented probably a dozen
manuals from her. What happened in your case?

-- john, KE5FX

-----Original Message-----
From: TekScopes@... [mailto:TekScopes@...]On
Behalf Of Lars Ahlstr???m
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 1:39 PM
To: 'Stefan Trethan'; TekScopes@...
Subject: SV: [TekScopes] 496P Scams on eBay


3830616219

Is that a scam or not?
I got fooled by it, but lost the dispute.

I wanted a 2430A paper users manual.

What did I get, do you think?
....a long nose. (means embarrasment in swedish)


/Lars


Tds520 spot lines

 

Hello,in my hold tds 520 the trace is with more spot lines at all time
base,i'm not able to find the problem,can you help me?


Re: In search of the "Safest" bench test setup

 

At 21:48 29/01/2007, Stefan Trethan wrote:
I haven't needed my HV probes much, but you are right they are huge beasts.
I discovered mine (non tek) have a screw-on tip, so i could probably make
up a short lead with a clip, to be connected in the discharged state. I
guess the tek probe might have a screw-on tip as well.
Virtually the only use I ever make of my, also non-Tek, HV probe is to check the CRT accelerating voltage on Tek scopes. As my probe also has a screw-in tip I have made up a Tee piece, using one lead with male connector from a failed HV tripler, one lead with female connector from a failed CRT and a further piece of HV lead connected to a compatible screw to replace the probe's tip, all connections heavily insulated. Now all I have to do is to replace the tip with the Tee, disconnect the anode lead, plug in my Tee and switch back on without having to get anywhere near anything nasty.

Ben


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Re: In search of the "Safest" bench test setup

Stefan Trethan
 

On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 22:30:53 +0100, Ron Simmons <RJSimmons@...> wrote:

First, thank you Stephan T , Stephan J and Bob K for your excellent and
knowledgeable inputs. They should be required reading for all on the
board.
The more I read, the more I discover that there IS NO ONE WAY. The ONE
safety practice I have adopted (note-..I'm still here posting) is that
when measuring any HV I:
1. With all power off to everything, discharge the test point I plan to
probe to ground. In other words , I treat it like a big capacitor. As
we know , even with all protection in place, if you "get across" a big
cap in a DUT you can be on the way to the undertaker
2. I then attach an insulated alligator clip to the test point desired
and clip the other end to my Tek 6015 probe tip.
3. Then without touching anything, I stand back and apply power and
observe the reading then power off, discharge test point etc.
I have the good fortune to have an excellent 6015 which is fully charged
with Freon 114. The probe has a very large tip which is not optimal for
trouble shooting oscilloscopes but perfect , I imagine, for the "tesla
coil crowd".
This is why I "wire it in" to the circuit first instead of "probing"
with a veritable "baseball bat"
Thanks again to respondents...one can not know too much about safety.
Ron Simmons
I haven't needed my HV probes much, but you are right they are huge beasts.
I discovered mine (non tek) have a screw-on tip, so i could probably make up a short lead with a clip, to be connected in the discharged state. I guess the tek probe might have a screw-on tip as well.

ST


Re: 496P Scams on eBay

Lars Ahlstr?m
 

3830616219

Is that a scam or not?
I got fooled by it, but lost the dispute.

I wanted a 2430A paper users manual.

What did I get, do you think?
...a long nose. (means embarrasment in swedish)


/Lars






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Fr?n: TekScopes@... [mailto:TekScopes@...] F?r
Stefan Trethan
Skickat: den 29 januari 2007 21:45
Till: TekScopes@...
?mne: Re: [TekScopes] 496P Scams on eBay

On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 14:07:25 +0100, Mark Vaughan <mark@...> wrote:

However if you are the seller on Ebay, the most secure way you can
receive
payment is by wire transfer. We do this all the time selling goods all
around the world. They cannot pull money out of your account without your
approval. If they forge documents that the bank mistakably accepts, the
bank
is liable, though they will try to tell you otherwise. Even when you are
transferred the money, if the sender says it was a mistake, once it has
shown on your account, your bank must contact you first before they can
refund it. Also with new banking laws and problems with money laundering
and
the terrorist groups, you need to use a Iban international banking
identity
number for the transfer, these should all be in place in just about every
bank by now, though a few are lacking for instance in Switzerland, Spain,
and the Costa Del Sol amongst a few others I am sure.
Regs Mark

I'm not sure bank transfers work as well in the US as they do for us here.

(BTW your pounds are annoying, transfers in non-euro currency are
expensive! Why don't you convert? Maybe they'd even let you print the
queen on the back ;-) )

You are right about some places having trouble with IBANs (Portugal also i
remember).

ST



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Re: In search of the "Safest" bench test setup

 

First, thank you Stephan T , Stephan J and Bob K for your excellent and
knowledgeable inputs. They should be required reading for all on the
board.

The more I read, the more I discover that there IS NO ONE WAY. The ONE
safety practice I have adopted (note-..I'm still here posting) is that
when measuring any HV I:

1. With all power off to everything, discharge the test point I plan to
probe to ground. In other words , I treat it like a big capacitor. As
we know , even with all protection in place, if you "get across" a big
cap in a DUT you can be on the way to the undertaker

2. I then attach an insulated alligator clip to the test point desired
and clip the other end to my Tek 6015 probe tip.

3. Then without touching anything, I stand back and apply power and
observe the reading then power off, discharge test point etc.

I have the good fortune to have an excellent 6015 which is fully charged
with Freon 114. The probe has a very large tip which is not optimal for
trouble shooting oscilloscopes but perfect , I imagine, for the "tesla
coil crowd".
This is why I "wire it in" to the circuit first instead of "probing"
with a veritable "baseball bat"

Thanks again to respondents...one can not know too much about safety.

Ron Simmons

-----Original Message-----
From: TekScopes@... [mailto:TekScopes@...] On
Behalf Of Stefan Trethan
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 1:28 PM
To: TekScopes@...
Subject: Re: [TekScopes] In search of the "Safest" bench test setup

On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 17:01:16 +0100, HBcubed <rjsimmons@...> wrote:

My main test gear is a 465B scope with it's case/frame NOW hardwired
to a water pipe.
It would be better to ground it through the electrical ground (ground
prong or screw on an outlet). It is not always a good idea to use the
plumbing for ground, since great hazards are created if the plumbing is

not properly earthed, or some pipes are plastic (or are later replaced
for
plastic). It depends on your local regulation if it is still legal to
use
the plumbing.

My questions are:
If I run the 465B with AC should I run it through a Variac?
Why would you? A variac is used for VARIable AC. Your scope should be
made
to run off mains voltage.
Many scopes have internal adjustment for "low" "normal" or "high" line

voltage, i don't know the 465B.

If so, is the variac considered an "isolation xformer?
Most variacs are not, they are so called autotransformers with no
isolation between input and output. There are also isolated varicas,
which
have a second fully isolated winding under the outer output winding with

the wiper. But often an isolation transformer will be put in front of a

variac to provide isolation and adjustable voltage.

Should the device under test also be grounded to the water pipe?
Depends. Usually your DUT should be grounded, via the electrical system.

Sometimes if the DUT is powered via an isolation transformer the ground
is
intentionally removed. You should not need that if you don't exactly
know
how or why.

Can I power the DUT with the same variac?
You can certainly power the DUT with the one variac, you do not need one

for a functioning bench scope that is used as test gear and meant to run

on your line voltage.

What is the "perfect" ( safest) bench test configuration
A bench configuration can not make it perfectly safe, although it can
make
it unsafe.
An universal bench configuration (which i use) is the scope grounded and

powered by regular mains ("just plugged in").
The DUT is powered through an isolation transformer (ideally with
isolation monitor so you are made aware of a fault), possibly combined
with a variac to bring things up slowly and check for supply range etc.
On my own bench all connections are jumpered with 4mm jumpers, so i can

remove ground from the DUT, but ONLY if i know what i am doing. I didn't

need that much, if ever.

It should be said that a GFI protected outlet can actually be safer than

using an isolation transformer, in some cases. If you are not using the

isolation transformer you should _always_ use a GFI to power the DUT (i

highly recommend using one for everything, test gear and all). Note that

GFIs do not function with isolation transformers, it's one or the other.

I will rebuild my bench soon and then it will have V/A/W/phase angle
meters for the DUT power. I have collected nice industrial panel meters

and i will build my very own small "nuclear power station control
panel",
always wanted that ;-). I've also gotten hold of a nice isolation
monitor
which will be part of the new bench.

ST



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Re: 496P Scams on eBay

Kuba Ober
 

On Friday 26 January 2007 23:40, you wrote:
Also: the seller shouldn't necessarily leave feedback first, because
for all
he knows, he's dealing with the unsatisfiable buyer from Hell.
Those are rare but do exist. That's what the follow-ups are for.

Cheers, Kuba