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Re: Could please any one give a clue about this nice pulsed line generator??


 

Don't worry about the connector - worry about the cable. If you add "regular" cable externally, it can increase the pulse width accordingly, but it will show a marked discontinuity and droop during its portion of the pulse, unless it is very low in loss. The best is to continue with the .141 semi-rigid type. Even the smaller .085 type will show a large difference, although it's pretty good stuff. If you use RG-58, you will be very disappointed.

There is a limit to the pulse duration - the line charging circuit has to replenish the charge (figure about ten time constants) to nearly the full supply voltage between shots. With excessive line length, you will have to reduce the repetition rate in order to get to full voltage. It doesn't seem like it would be that big of a deal, but if you do the math considering the joules per pulse and repetition rate, you will find that it takes quite a bit of power to run. The output power is in the 50-100 W range during those nanoseconds of pulsing, and it's less than 50 percent efficient in delivery - not even counting the charging phase. If you hook a 10X or 100X 10 megohm scope probe to the charge line, you can observe the process from the line's point of view, and get a better feel for what's going on in there.

The main thing for these pulsers is to get a fast front edge, then reach and hold a flat zone that's long enough to convey the amplitude information even for lower bandwidth scopes. Increasing the pulse width makes it easier to see and use, but eventually the rep-rate suffers - that is usually more important than pulse width.

Ed

--- In TekScopes@..., "iglesia_cristiana_arpas_eternas" <iglesia_cristiana_arpas_eternas@...> wrote:

Well Craig, what you say is exactly what I think about.
Once the generator arrive , and measure the natural pulse length, then I
will decide add more or not more length inside, or put a bnc instead GR
and have the facility to change pulse width as needed.
What suggestion to test if Chinese bnc are useable?...you are talk about
dielectric losses..or else?
I cant imagine that Chinese not maintain the physical dimension to
maintain 50 Ohms..but who know?.
Mi first notice that GR are "hermaphrodite" ..we can be confident
about sex even in connector matter!! [:D]

What would be useful is add a repetition rate knob adj.
Thanks Craig, for your valuable input
Gabriel.
--- In TekScopes@..., "Craig Sawyers" <c.sawyers@> wrote:

Hi Albert..probably I put some meters of RG147 as fixed(solder)
internal
line
in order to obtain a 100nS pulse width.
What is the secret about this GR connectors ?, I have the temptation
to
replace by a BNC, any wrong with this change?.
Gabriel.
My version of this generator has a fixed solid line coiled up inside.
There
is also a front panel SMA to attach more line if needed.

Nothing special about GR connectors. Essential if you have a lot of
GR
gear; they were really GR's solution to a 5GHz connector, introduced
in
1943. Then later they introduced the GR900 series that went higher in
frequency. Both "hermaphrodite" in that there was not a male and
female
connector - everything was identical. There were lots of in-house
connectors designed - anyone remember the Rhode&Schwarz Dezifix? All
superceded by the N-type for this frequency range. But really, a high
quality, branded BNC would be fine (all BNC's are not created equal!)

Craig

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