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Re: TDS 744A Power Supply Issue - Any Ideas?


 

I believe all can be repaired thus far. I see no PCB damage.

I've purchased a handful of slightly under-rated fuses (20%). It was a matter of what was available more than anything.

Still waiting on the FETs to come in. At this point, the failure matches the blog suggested before (Q5/Q6 - with Q5 failing and not Q6).

I do not expect to get as lucky and have my debug end at this stage. I still suspect more issues.

From my initial measurements - I thought the voltage readings on the ICs were out of spec. However, ground reference changes (is not always chassis) - so absolute voltages based off of chassis ground are suspect. For ICs - better I measure GND pin to VCC rather than chassis to VCC.

That said, I plan on testing the ICs out of circuit. Will bread-board up a test circuit and verify function. Although I'm looking at bench supplies (w/var current limit and voltage) - those will take a while to purchase so I'll use a wall-wart and v-divs.

I'll also map out what I can for cascaded rails and try to lift all but the rails involved in 400V regulation. I need to isolate 400V and at least get that working without having to worry about failures down the chain.

At least once 400V is back up I can add the rest one by one until I blow a fuse (or not).

Of course, this process would seem more efficient if I stopped "blogging" about each step. I could edit out the messy parts. However, I believe it's instructive/useful to at least one future debugger to leave the warts in.

--- In TekScopes@..., "baltimora86" <acuffe@...> wrote:

I can tell you from experience with switching power supplies that even replacing the fuse with the correct rating can cause more collateral damage if the power supply isn't fully repaired. Doubling the rating can lead to irreparable damage. If anything, I like to halve the fuse rating for the first test.

I would check/replace everything on the gate of that FET the blew up, and any other power transistors that have failed. If there are any ICs controlling that part of the power supply, replace them. Improper gate/base drive can cause instant failure. Also, loss of regulation can cause some spectacular failures.

--- In TekScopes@..., "circuitsandcode" <circuitsandcode@> wrote:

I used the fused circuit of the meter (10A) which is a little over 2x max current.

--- In TekScopes@..., larrys@ wrote:

"circuitsandcode" <circuitsandcode@> wrote:
Would prefer to have a variable P/S to ramp up voltage - but went for
broke and shorted across the fuse (using multimeter measuring amps)
and Q5 went out in flames. I've since ordered a handful of 2SK1018
parts to replace.
Might want to make sure the meter didn't take any collateral damage.
-ls-

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