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Re: Tentative 647 scan?


Rob
 

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Thanks Steve, all that makes sense to me. I also understand how the rubber deformation method brings some meaning to the 20G over 1ms into perspective (or the impulse). I also understand the disconnect between my original post and the tens of thousands of G¡¯s others mentioned. I did not try to translate the 20G over 1ms into an actual impulse. So I do not know how it compares to others.

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Anyway, do you have a feel for if or how the specifications changed over the years? Said another way, where the same military specs understood when the 647 specification was written (I know Tektronix was enough on the leading edge that some specifications were written to what there equipment was capable of vs. any real world need/criteria.). Would a 647 and a 7000 series scope meet the same requirements? How about modern solid state scopes?. Conversely as people became more acquainted with both Oscilloscopes and solid state electronics. Where they allowed to be manufactured less bullet proof (for lack of better wording),

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The biggest reason I am asking all of this is because of the trouble I have had shipping my refurbished scopes after I have sold them. I package them what I consider to be very well. However the post office is capable of defeating even the best packaging it seems. Then again, perhaps the 7000 series scopes (non-militarized especially) are more fragile then they appear to be on the bench and my packaging is indeed not adequate. Would one expect a 647 or other scope with the specification they claimed to survive better than a 7000 series or 475 or??? Given the post offices apparent ability to reach well above a 20G threshold.

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As always Thank you for your time and the bandwidth.

?????Rob

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From: TekScopes@... [mailto:TekScopes@...] On Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2013 5:16 PM
To: TekScopes@...
Subject: [TekScopes] Re: Tentative 647 scan?

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Almost all Tek instruments were tested for dynamics, both earlier and later versions. This included acceleration and vibration.

Acceleration is tested as deceleration. The instrument is firmly attached to a large steel plate in a test stand. The plate is dropped from a standard distance. An elastomeric moderator (block of rubber) is placed at the bottom of the test stand, where the plate will hit to control the G force. The moderator integrates the peak deceleration force over time. Different types and sized of rubber are used. Soft rubber lowers the peak G force, spreading it over a longer time. As it gets stiffer, the peak gets higher, but the duration of the deceleration is lower (energy = Mass * velocity^2). If you took the rubber out (never done in practical testing), the G force would be huge (tens of thousands of Gs) with ultra-short duration. Basically, the tiny flexing of the massive steel elements would limit the peak force from becoming an impulse function (infinite peak with 0 time). Changing the drop height allows fine tuning of the test forces. An acceleratomer is attached to the plate to monitor the force and time. Testing is either started at a low value and worked up, or a dummy weight with the same mass as the item to be tested is first bolted to the test stand to calibrate the force.

The dynamics specs were not listed in the later catalogs as they were contained within the military specification that most instruments were designed to, which was listed. Typically it was MIL-T-28800C ¨C class 5 for lab instruments, or class 3 for portable instruments. (MIL-T-28800B preceded `C', and MIL-T-28800A precede B)

- Steve

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