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Re: 7704 power supply


Tom Jobe
 

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Hi Raymond,
Today I found a 7704A service manual, and it says that CR3182 is a 1N5823 which is a 5 amp Schottky diode.
You might want to do some diode shopping soon.
tom jobe...
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 5:57 PM
Subject: [TekScopes] Re: 7704 power supply

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Hi Tom,
Thanks for thinking for me! I hadn't given this even a moment's thought! Obviously, my electronic alertness is a bit off after having been out of it for around 20 years...
You're right about the 1N5406, it's a "standard recovery" diode. The circuit runs at around 50KHz. I don't know the characteristics of these diodes at this frequency. The SMPS doesn't see it as a shortcut though...
It's one of 2 diodes in a half-bridge, supplying 5V to ... the light bulbs only, through a CLC-filter.
The load on the transformer may be another matter. I'll try and find a way to access some measuring points while the scope is switched on or at least I'll watch for effects that may be caused by this.

Thanks again for this!

Raymond

--- In TekScopes@..., "Tom Jobe" wrote:
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> Hi Raymond,
> A question about your diode substitution.
> What frequency does that diode run at in the 7704A?
> And is the 1N5406 suitable for that frequency?
> The data sheet for 1N5406 makes me think it is only good for low frequencies.
> I don't have a 7704A manual handy to answer my own question.
> tom jobe...
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: raymonddompfrank
> To: TekScopes@...
> Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2012 12:47 PM
> Subject: [TekScopes] Re: 7704 power supply
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> Hello guys,
> I have been able to repair my 7704A! It turned out that one bridge rectifier diode (CR3182) on the inverter/rectifier board was shorted, causing a periodic short-circuit in transformer T3101. It was the transformer making the noise. I used a 1N5406 from a broken Apple PowerMac G5 as a replacement.
> I can't understand why it broke down the moment when I first switched the PS on without the load of the display unit (D7704).
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> Thank you all very much for your help, hints and encouraging words.
> This forum has certainly been good to me with my first posting!
>
> Next, I'll try and resolve the brightness/focus issue.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Raymond
>
> --- In TekScopes@..., "raymonddompfrank" wrote:
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> > I am a newbie Tek collector, having used my own 465 until some 20 years ago. I am reasonably knowledgeable in electronics.
> >
> > The other day, I purchased a 7704 after only giving it a very quick test. I agree that wasn't very clever. Unfortunately I noticed some brightness and timebase issues and I decided to have a look inside the instrument. That wasn't very clever either...
> > I checked the +54.2 +- 0.25V without removing the power supply. It turned out OK (54.4). I decided to check some other voltages on the top regulator board and decided to remove the display unit (D7704) to reach in. I realized that many switching power supplies don't like very light loads but decided it was easier and the location of the description of how to remove the D7704 in the maintenance manual was such that I concluded it was safe. Also, I haven't found any warning re. this procedure.
> > Anyway, since I removed the D7704 and switched the PS on, there's a hissing sound from it and from what I measured, all preregulated voltages are much lower than normal: +54V now is 30V, -54V is -30V, 7V is 2V etc. Also, the front lights remain off (not surprising).
> > I'm anxious leaving the PS on for more than a few seconds.
> >
> > My Question: Did I indeed blow up the PS and if so, is there a component that usually blows up and is the repair doable or even easy? There's no nasty burning smell or anything.
> > Or is this just a coincidence, and have I just witnessed another electrolytic capacitor dying?
> >
> > Thanks for any ideas!
> >
> > Raymond
> >
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