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Re: Photos of a non-illuminated graticule; WAS 576 versus 577


 

Hi Brad,

Correction to my original post where I said:
"The other LED I tried was a 485nM one I just got."
I meant so say:
"The other LED I tried was a 385nM one I just got."

385nM is considered purple/UV by the LED folks. It isn't that far into the
UV so it still has some visible light coming out of it. It looked a not so
bright white to my eye. The first LED was 394nM which is only 10nM apart on
the spectrum but it was listed as very bright. It looked to be bright blue
to my eye. The brightness might have had more effect on the CRTs than the
difference in wavelength.

I also tried an IR LED. It was unimpressive. I did not try red, green,
orange or yellow LEDs. There are just too many combinations of LEDs, CRTs,
phosphors, and who knows what else, affecting the results.

Based on my seat-of-the-pants experiment this is a promising idea. In the
end, I doubt that there will be a single LED that works for all CRTs. I
encountered far too many variables to reach a definitive conclusion. More
experimentation with different LEDs and different CRTs is needed. I think
the least of the problems will be where to place the LEDs.

Dennis

-----Original Message-----
From: Brad Thompson, Tuesday, January 24, 2012 9:56 AM

On 1/24/2012 12:38 PM, Dennis Tillman wrote:
During the discussion of the 576 vs 577 curve tracer I mentioned the
577 graticule was not illuminated which I find annoying every time I
want to take a picture of device characteristics on the CRT.

Later I realized I might be able to take advantage of the storage CRT
flood gun on my 577 D1 to light the screen from inside the CRT. It is
not the solution I was looking for but it does work (with drawbacks).

A more intriguing solution came from Ed Breya, with an explanation of
how it works from David. If you 'flash' the phosphor it will glow and
illuminate the graticule from inside the CRT. I tried this with two
different LEDs I had handy and the results were quite promising.
<snip>

Hello, Dennis--

Have you tried using ultraviolet-emitting LEDs? IIRC, one of the --HP--
oscilloscope cameras used a UV emitting lamp to light up the screen's
phosphor and show the graticule.

73--

Brad AA1IP

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