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Re: Power supply problem with Tek 2220


 

Tan: ? ?
? ? I beg your pardon, I did not realize that you definitely do have the basic skills! ?But do buy or build an ESR meter, as a great number of ?problems are caused by defective electrolytics and they are very easily checked in circuit with the ESR meter. It just takes a few minutes to rule out this very common failure and then you can continue with further circuit diagnosis/analysis as required. But believe me, caps are a BIG problem and your "technician life" ?will go a lot smoother with an ESR meter--it sure has for me (I've been using one for almost 30 years and I still remember how it was before I got one)!! ?I read some time ago that about around 90-95% of electrolytics fail due to high ESR. Don't know if this is a legitimate figure but it speaks for itself. Good luck. ? ? ? ? Terry


From: Tan Chor Ming
To: TekScopes@...
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 11:01 PM
Subject: RE: [TekScopes] Power supply problem with Tek 2220

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Thanks Gary ,
Do you suspect that it¡¯s a cap ESR issue?
Why would it cause such a behaviour?
I believe you can infer a lot from the behaviour than blind guesses that¡¯s where I am trying to tap from the experienced engineers.
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I suppose I have more than the basic knowledge because I am an electronics engineer with working knowledge in vacuum and solid state electronics.
I have built a scope from scratch, otherwise I would not attempt so work with EHT.
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Rgds,
Chor Ming

From: TekScopes@... [mailto: TekScopes@... ] On Behalf Of Terry Gray
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 1:11 AM
To: TekScopes@...
Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Power supply problem with Tek 2220
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At least check the incircuit power supply electrolytic capacitors for ESR. If you don't have an ESR tester, buy one or build one. There is lots of ESR information on the web and also in the archives of this yahoo group. ?You definitely need one if you're considering working on this type of electronic equipment and problems. Otherwise give the problem to someone else who has this essential test equipment and basic electronic knowledge to assist in diagnosing your problem. You are over your head without basic skills and test equipment.
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From: Tan Chor Ming
To: TekScopes@...
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2012 8:45 AM
Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Power supply problem with Tek 2220
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Has anyone seen this behaviour repairing Tek2000 series scope power supply?
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Behaviour
1. When power on from cold, it will fire up properly and stay on for a few minutes
2.? Once it warms up, the power supply shut down and try to on again and it continues in this on/off mode
3.? Pre-regulator out = 43V? (between TP940 and TP950)
4.? All voltages when the unit is stable for a few minutes are +8.6, -8.6, +5.2, +100 are all ok.
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What are likely problems before I start ripping the components from the circuit?
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?ttesenq@... suggested that it could be the pre-regulator MOSFET P9070.
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I though that it could be a electrolytic cap but it doe not look likely because electrolytic failure would not have allowed the unit to fire up for a few minutes
It is more likely a active component that weaken with increase temperature, so ttesenq@... could be right.?
This would mean Q947 and Q946 are also likely components
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Any other possible lead of similar experience.
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