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Re: 465M Flaky vertical height.
Miroslav Pokorni
Thank you, Phil; it is only now when I saw your writing that I remembered
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that 'Tecelec' was a French rep firm (represented C&K switches, among others) while Telequipment is what I should have said. As for "Kikutsi', whatever you say. That was my blind stab, I can not even get myself to pronounce their name, let alone to spell it. As for Doug Hale's talk about Telequipment and dual time base, I think that delayed base came from Tektronix and Telequipment just carried that idea on. I can relate to what Doug says about not being willing to go back to a scope without delayed base. You need it once in a blue moon, but when you have to have it, there is no substitute. I cut my teeth on a 454A; after few months had a design problem, I think it was some racing condition and as a result had a nasty dog tooth on an edge, Delayed base saved my neck and after that I just would not touch any scope without dual time base. Actually, I became Tektronix snob, would not touch anything else. Back in 1977, company that I worked for bought a nice storage hp (company was in underwater acoustics, so storage is very helpful), but trigger was a true hp, very hard to adjust and would quickly drift to instability. I never touched that hp scope, except when I needed storage, and even than image would bloom on me. I guess, that was my subconscious attempt to say that nothing short of Tektronix can work right. Regards Miroslav Pokorni -----Original Message-----
From: Phil (VA3UX) [mailto:phil@...] Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 2:21 PM To: TekScopes@... Subject: RE: [TekScopes] Re: 465M Flaky vertical height. At 01:20 PM 8/6/2001 -0700, you wrote: >I find Don's story fascinating. > >To start with, until very recently I thought that 465M is a 465, in a funny >housing, but still 465. I never new that 465M traces lineage to T900. That's what I thought too. That was an informative post. > I >believe that T900 were products acquired when Tektronix bought (British ?) It was "Telequipment" from the UK >Tecelec; anyone, please, correct me if I am wrong on Tektronix/Tecelec >transaction. I have seen same housing and controls with both, Tecelec and > Sales guy complained how Air Force bought scopes from Kikutsi, >because of low price, while Kikutsi Kikisui ?? Phil >Regards > >Miroslav Pokorni > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: donlcramer@... [mailto:donlcramer@...] > Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2001 2:49 PM > To: TekScopes@... > Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Re: 465M Flaky vertical >height. > > Fascinating! > > BTW, what was the reason for creating the 465M for the >government vs selling > the 465? Was it a cost issue? Or some special features? >Was the 455 an > outgrowth of the 465M or was it the other way around? > > I worked in Digital Service Instruments as a production tech >in the late 70s, > which was a new group in Portables which began with the 851 >Digital Tester. > This was a product designed originally for Burroughs for >their first line > techs as a scope replacement. The instrument was >principally a clever > integration of DMM and counter/timer functions and the idea >was that a tech > could follow a diagnostic tree and compare readings to >arrive at the fault, > without the need to be familiar with how a scope worked. >Anyway, we were > next to the T900 line and if DSI production was a bit slow, >I would get to > work on T900 product. While not as nice as the "real" >portables, the top > line T935 wasn't a bad instrument (2x35MHz) as far as >functionality was > concerned. > > About once a month our group got to either take a tour of >another area, or > had a guest in, as was common practice back then in order to >get more > familiar with other parts of Tek. One time it was the the >marketing product > manager for T900. As you know, the T900 line styling was a >little odd, and > was derided for looking like an old Kerby cannister vacuum >cleaner instead of > like a traditional portable scope. The gentleman, whose >name I've long since > forgotten, was quite a character. He told us he wanted to >do an ad with a > photo of a field service tech holding a T900 in one hand and >a vacuum cleaner > hose in the other hand with the line "Tektronix is Going to >Clean Up in the > Low Cost Scope Business". But the idea was shot down. We >had quite a laugh > over that, and he was an inspiration for the T900 team who >felt somewhat > second rate compared to the groups working on the more >expensive portables > and lab scopes. My recollection is that were a great bunch >of people > regardless of what they worked on. > > Don > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > TekScopes-unsubscribe@... > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > > > > >To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >TekScopes-unsubscribe@... > > > >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: TekScopes-unsubscribe@... Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to |
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