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Re: 465M Flaky vertical height.


Miroslav Pokorni
 

Thank you, Phil; it is only now when I saw your writing that I remembered
that 'Tecelec' was a French rep firm (represented C&K switches, among
others) while Telequipment is what I should have said.
As for "Kikutsi', whatever you say. That was my blind stab, I can not even
get myself to pronounce their name, let alone to spell it.

As for Doug Hale's talk about Telequipment and dual time base, I think that
delayed base came from Tektronix and Telequipment just carried that idea on.
I can relate to what Doug says about not being willing to go back to a scope
without delayed base. You need it once in a blue moon, but when you have to
have it, there is no substitute. I cut my teeth on a 454A; after few months
had a design problem, I think it was some racing condition and as a result
had a nasty dog tooth on an edge, Delayed base saved my neck and after that
I just would not touch any scope without dual time base. Actually, I became
Tektronix snob, would not touch anything else. Back in 1977, company that I
worked for bought a nice storage hp (company was in underwater acoustics, so
storage is very helpful), but trigger was a true hp, very hard to adjust and
would quickly drift to instability. I never touched that hp scope, except
when I needed storage, and even than image would bloom on me. I guess, that
was my subconscious attempt to say that nothing short of Tektronix can work
right.


Regards

Miroslav Pokorni

-----Original Message-----
From: Phil (VA3UX) [mailto:phil@...]
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 2:21 PM
To: TekScopes@...
Subject: RE: [TekScopes] Re: 465M Flaky vertical
height.

At 01:20 PM 8/6/2001 -0700, you wrote:
>I find Don's story fascinating.
>
>To start with, until very recently I thought that 465M is a
465, in a funny
>housing, but still 465. I never new that 465M traces
lineage to T900.

That's what I thought too. That was an informative post.


> I
>believe that T900 were products acquired when Tektronix
bought (British ?)

It was "Telequipment" from the UK

>Tecelec; anyone, please, correct me if I am wrong on
Tektronix/Tecelec
>transaction. I have seen same housing and controls with
both, Tecelec and
> Sales guy complained how Air Force bought scopes from
Kikutsi,
>because of low price, while Kikutsi

Kikisui ??


Phil


>Regards
>
>Miroslav Pokorni
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: donlcramer@...
[mailto:donlcramer@...]
> Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2001 2:49 PM
> To: TekScopes@...
> Subject: Re: [TekScopes] Re: 465M
Flaky vertical
>height.
>
> Fascinating!
>
> BTW, what was the reason for creating the
465M for the
>government vs selling
> the 465? Was it a cost issue? Or some
special features?
>Was the 455 an
> outgrowth of the 465M or was it the other
way around?
>
> I worked in Digital Service Instruments as
a production tech
>in the late 70s,
> which was a new group in Portables which
began with the 851
>Digital Tester.
> This was a product designed originally for
Burroughs for
>their first line
> techs as a scope replacement. The
instrument was
>principally a clever
> integration of DMM and counter/timer
functions and the idea
>was that a tech
> could follow a diagnostic tree and compare
readings to
>arrive at the fault,
> without the need to be familiar with how a
scope worked.
>Anyway, we were
> next to the T900 line and if DSI
production was a bit slow,
>I would get to
> work on T900 product. While not as nice
as the "real"
>portables, the top
> line T935 wasn't a bad instrument
(2x35MHz) as far as
>functionality was
> concerned.
>
> About once a month our group got to either
take a tour of
>another area, or
> had a guest in, as was common practice
back then in order to
>get more
> familiar with other parts of Tek. One
time it was the the
>marketing product
> manager for T900. As you know, the T900
line styling was a
>little odd, and
> was derided for looking like an old Kerby
cannister vacuum
>cleaner instead of
> like a traditional portable scope. The
gentleman, whose
>name I've long since
> forgotten, was quite a character. He told
us he wanted to
>do an ad with a
> photo of a field service tech holding a
T900 in one hand and
>a vacuum cleaner
> hose in the other hand with the line
"Tektronix is Going to
>Clean Up in the
> Low Cost Scope Business". But the idea
was shot down. We
>had quite a laugh
> over that, and he was an inspiration for
the T900 team who
>felt somewhat
> second rate compared to the groups working
on the more
>expensive portables
> and lab scopes. My recollection is that
were a great bunch
>of people
> regardless of what they worked on.
>
> Don
>
>
>
>
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>
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