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Re: 7704A - Readout Stretches Vertically


 

Hi Barry,
Is there a picture of how the distorted characters look like?
Ozan

On Tue, Mar 5, 2024 at 06:36 AM, n4buq wrote:


At issue is that the stretching occurs even when the trace is not extended
past the top or bottom graticule. It isn't horrible but quite noticeable. I
have another 7704A, two 7603s, and a 7514 and none of those show this problem
quite like I see it on this 7704A. Yes, with an AC signal that approaches or
passes the CRT's vertical limits, I see rippling on virtually all these scopes
and I understand that but this "stretchy, multiply-scanned image" thing is
only seen this way on this 7704A.

Again, it isn't like I can't read the characters, etc., it just seems it is
abnormal and would like to find out why.

Thanks,
Barry - N4BUQ

I looked back through this thread, and I don't know what the deal is here,
so
please forgive if I've missed something. In the OP, I think it was an issue
about the readout distorting severely when the vertical signal is
over-driven
and off-screen. This is entirely normal behavior. The Tek verticals tend to
have great dynamic range, but even they have their limits. I think that
Albert
et al have touched on this in previous messages about what it looks like at
normal levels.

If the RO works fine with signal displays on-screen, or a little beyond,
then
fine. If they don't do as well way off-screen, then you're tilting at
windmills. The RO is irrelevant if you can't see a waveform anyway. If you
see
weird non-linearities or stepped conditions on overdrive, it's likely
thermal
delays, sweep rate, and RO framing rate getting into the picture too. What
matters is how it looks when things are "normally" displayed. If OK, then
case
closed. At certain sweep rates and vertical excursion, it's quite normal to
see
the RO rippling up and down a little. The question is, what's acceptable. It
should be not obnoxious, and preferably, but not invisible.

Ed

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