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Re: Sampling Plug-In Questions


 

Another Jim here putting his $0.02 worth in.

If you run across step recovery diodes (SRDs), there is another time parameter you need to be aware of, minority carrier lifetime. Turns out that while you want a FAST transition or snap time so that high frequency harmonics are generated efficiently, you want a SLOW minority carrier lifetime so that you can put a low enough frequency in to get your frequency comb out.

Say you're putting in 100 MHz; you'd want a minority carrier lifetime >> 1/100 MHz = 10 ns. So probably 20 ns minimum would be a good value to use. From what I understand, if the lifetime is too short, the carriers will recombine before the next edge of the input waveform comes around, and you won't get much power out at multiples of the input frequency.

OTOH, suppose you're putting in 1 GHz to get 2, 3, 4 GHz, etc. out. A smaller lifetime would be in order, but if you wanted up to 20 GHz out, you'd need to use an SRD with a transition time of around 1/20 GHz = 50 ps. Longer transition times than that would result in lower power out at the higher harmonics.

Good luck!

Jim Ford
Laguna Hills, California, USA

"And we know that God causes all things to work together for the good of those who love God and are called according to his purpose for them." Romans 8:28 (NLT)

------ Original Message ------
From "Tom Lee" <tomlee@...>
To [email protected]
Date 2/2/2024 11:07:23 AM
Subject Re: [TekScopes] Sampling Plug-In Questions

Hi Jim,

No, that's not what I've been saying. Storage time, ts, and trr are nearly the same, and in practice may often be taken to be so. The "tail end" is the snap interval. In equation form, trr = ts + tsnap. That tsnap is usually very short compared to ts is what allows one to take trr and ts to be the same in most cases. Many references don't even cite a distinction, so there isn't uniform agreement about the definitions. But folks who design SRDs tend to be a bit more fussy about the various components of the recovery transient.

-- Cheers,
Tom

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On 2/2/2024 7:49 AM, Jim Adney wrote:
Ed,

I think your and my understanding of what goes in a PN junction are pretty much the same. I was just trying to come to an understanding of what "storage time" is, and is it different from trr. Tom says it's different, and seems to be saying that it's the tail end of trr.



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