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Re: letter series plugins


Chuck Harris
 

Au Contraire? Mais non, certainement pas!

Even Jim Williams was vexed by the 50MHz limit imposed by
his favorites, the 547, and 556....but for opamp, and low
performance switching supply work, they were adequate, as
long as you didn't consider the environmental aspects of
using such a scope (by environmental, I use the traditional
usage, as in: the environment in the lab...).

I grew up as an engineer in the waning days of the 545B, 547
and 585A. I have used all of them for serious electronics work,
as they were what we could get, and I was damn glad to have them
at the time. Still, I simply don't know of anyone that does
serious work with 500 series scopes anymore. The limitations
are too severe. They can't even keep up with a modern USB port.
1MHz switching supplies have spikes that they cannot even come
close to seeing. Just because your scope can't see them, doesn't
mean they won't burn out your transistors and diodes.

Disregarding the low bandwidth, the heat they produce is enough
to eliminate them from serious consideration. I not so fondly
remember my lab in graduate school over taxing the building's air
conditioner with all of the HP and Tektronix gear we needed for
our research. It was intolerable to have the lab get over 110F
in the summer; doors open, huge floor standing fans blowing papers
everywhere. It was so hot that the thermal overload switches in
the scopes were tripped.

Nostalgia is great, especially if you remember only the good
stuff. Thinking fondly of using a scope in the '70s, and using
it for serious electronics work today are not the same thing.

I pull out my 547, 545B, and 585A from time to time to play with,
but when work needs to be done, they are parked in their corral.

My 7854 does most of my heavy lifting, scope wise.

-Chuck Harris

Greg Muir via Groups.Io wrote:

Chuck Harris wrote: ¡°With the exception of the late, great, Jim Williams of Linear Technology fame, big tube scopes, haven't been used for serious electronics work in 30 years.¡±

Au Contraire. There are still a few Jim Williams types out there who enjoy the use of a stable and reliable product that may have grown gray hair but is still a viable instrument.

Yes, the trend nowadays is to have the fastest, biggest and best of everything in the engineering world but it is not necessary for every application. I am fully aware that the academic institutions must prepare their students to hit the ground running when launched into their professions thereby being able to use state-of-the-art test instruments instead of archaic hardware. And I agree it is nice to be lazy, punch softkeys or click on a mouse to get what you want instantaneously but to come into the lab on a cold winters day with a steaming cup of coffee, hit the switch on that big fire breathing dragon, hear the fan wind up and smell the odor of pure legacy for me is rather pleasing. But if I need speed and easy accuracy I can always reach over and turn on that little solid-state rice box and continue on.

We¡¯ve been obviously witness to the loss of older hardware through the advancements of technology and I have no objections about it happening. But there is that certain amount of tradition in some of us (me ¨C 70 years old, design engineering for 50 of them, raised on tube-type equipment and still going strong) that harks back to those few people who were brave enough to start in their garages endlessly working to serve the engineering profession by manufacturing the best and most technically advanced products of their time.

Some day my 519, 547 and 581 will be relinquished either to a collector or the scrap heap but in the meantime I will still get usefulness out of them.

Greg

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