Please re-send after the details have been ironed out.
Gary
On Mon, Apr 30, 2018 at 8:19 PM, Dennis Tillman W7PF <dennis@...>
wrote:
To Jack, and the many others who have gently reminded me I need to recover
the modest annual cost of hosting our data on Groups.io. Thank you. I think
it is time to explain my inaction.
The short explanation is I have been avoiding it. I'm probably
overthinking this but I just realized the TekScopes members can probably
firure out solutions to every one of my concerns. Below are my concerns in
no particular order. By writing them down here I am asking for your help.
When the replies dwindle to a trickle I will distill down the best ideas
and if necessary put them up for a vote.
The annual cost is ~$100. I paid for the first year to get us started
without further delay because it appeared Yahoo would shut us down at any
moment.
THIS IS GOING TO GENERATE A LOT OF MESSAGE TRAFFIC SO PLEASE ONLY REPLY
AFTER READING ALL OF THE PRIOR POSTS AND REPLY ONLY IF YOU HAVE A
CONTRIBUTION. I am concerned that there will be too much traffic so keep
your replies short and to the point, and avoid unnecessary back and forth
that might keep the thread going longer than necessary.
MY CONCERNS / QUESTIONS / ISSUES / RANDOM THOUGHTS:
* Any request for funds is going to result in more than $100 being sent to
me. For example if we have 7,000 members and 10% are active at any given
moment and they each sent in $1 that would be 7 years' worth of Groups.io
storage costs.
* Michael Dunn and I would both have control over the funds so in the
event something happens to one of us the other could carry on alone.
* What do we do with the excess donations? Where should they be kept?
Commercial banks charge too many fees. Perhaps a credit union is the
answer. What about the Tektronix Credit Union? Can I apply if I was not an
employee of Tek?
* Donating less than $1 is impractical.
* Fairness dictates that the cost be spread evenly so everybody
contributed equally. This is also impractical.
* Everyone should have access to the donation list of who contributed and
how much for total transparency. That way everyone can confirm their
donation contributed to the total.
* There needs to be an automated way to accept and post the donations to
the donation list because my wife and I do not have the time to do it. I
have no idea how to do that part of this, but maybe somebody has the
answer.
* I am hopeful whatever mechanism is chosen it accepts PayPal and checks.
It is impractical to send a money order for $1. It is also not a good idea
to send $1 in cash.
* How do foreign donations get handled? Maybe the automated system I
alluded to above has the answer to that.
Dennis Tillman W7PF
-----Original Message-----
Jack Reynolds wrote on Monday, April 30, 2018 4:36 PM
<snips>
Hello all and especially Dennis,
I remember reading for a while
before the switch to groups.io that there were going to be some modest
financial costs for the switch and for the maintenance of the groups.io
group which would be dealt with after the switchover.
Dennis, would you be so kind as to update us on the who, where and how
much, etc.?
Thanks,
Jack Reynolds
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