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Re: New (to me) 7854 scope


 

The firmware image I used doesn't use the FPLA, as it was captured by
reading out the contents of the board at board (rather than chip) level -
BUT you stil lneed the patch ROMs as there is code in them that's used that
isn't patches to the base ROMS.

The ROM images are here: <>

I just removed the FPLA and connected a jumper between two pins of the FPLA
socket (no I can't remember which and the 7854 is inaccessible right now).

Regards,
David Partridge

-----Original Message-----
From: TekScopes@... [mailto:TekScopes@...] On Behalf
Of David
Sent: 19 January 2014 18:38
To: TekScopes@...
Subject: Re: [TekScopes] RE: New (to me) 7854 scope

On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 10:25:21 -0700, you wrote:

On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 7:36 PM, <sbell@...> wrote:

Are the Motorola ROMs subject to the same ROM rot problems as the
notorious Mostek parts?

I have recently acquired a 7854 and it has a checksum error on power-up.
I opened it up expecting to find Mostek parts but found it used Motorola
parts instead. The Tek part numbers (with Motorola part numbers in brackets)
are 160-0408-01 (SCM92210P), 160-0409-01 (SCM92211P), 160-0410-01
(SCM92212P) and 160-0411-01 (SCM92213P). The date codes are all mid '83.

I did repair one board with Motorola ROMs, but I don't know if it was
the ROMs or the FPLA that had failed.

Should I replace all these ROMs or are there other likely causes for the
checksum error?

The ROMs & FPLA are the most likely cause.
I left the discussion of the FPLA (FPRP?) to others since I am not sure what
it could be replaced with and I believe with the right firmware image, the
board can be modified to not use it. My understanding is that it was used
to patch the mask ROMs with code stored in the 2716 EPROMs.

Since the FPLA uses NiCr fuse PROM technology which is very different from
the mask programmed Mostek ROMs, I have assumed it is more reliable.

Incidentally, Signetics called the 82S107 a Field Programmable ROM Patch.
It is obviously based on their 82S100 Field Programmable Logic Array but
among other differences, the -CE input is replaced with a -Flag output so
instead of responding to chip enable, it generates its own chip enable which
is used to drive other chip enables.


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