Patrick,
As Caleb said, I've 2 spinnaker poles now and an extra spinnaker. I'm in Virginia.
-Eddie Breeden
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Patrick,
I sold my pole and old spin to Eddie Breeden who is on this list.??
He may, or may not have a spin pole for you, and maybe an old spin.
Caleb D
T27 #328
-----Original Message-----
From: Patrick McGough <patrick.mcgough@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Mon, Mar 15, 2021 8:20 pm
Subject: Re: [T27Owners] Boat for sale
Rick,
Any chance you have a spinnaker pole and spinnaker that you are looking to sell?? The T27 I received last year has running rigging and pole attachment on the mast for a spinnaker but not pole or sail.
Patrick
On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 8:17 PM Rick Gengarelly < rickg1952@...> wrote:
I lost my T 27 two years ago. I'm selling mast, sails, parts, etc..?
Thanks,
Rick
Robert,?
I'm intereted in your Tartan 27. I know Stu at Wikander's. Would it be possible to go aboard and take a look at her??
Mel?
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Patrick McGough
Ship 7117 - Skipper
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Sorry, I sold my main. Only have head sails $50 to $100. Thanks, Rick.?
On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 8:23 PM Chris McLoughlin via <bridgeway73= [email protected]> wrote:
I am interested in a used main sail for my tartan.? On Monday, March 15, 2021, 8:17 PM, Rick Gengarelly <rickg1952@...> wrote: I lost my T 27 two years ago. I'm selling mast, sails, parts, etc..? Thanks, Rick Robert,?
I'm intereted in your Tartan 27. I know Stu at Wikander's. Would it be possible to go aboard and take a look at her??
Mel?
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No, sorry, no spinnaker?and I sold the pole. Thanks, Rick.?
Rick,
Any chance you have a spinnaker pole and spinnaker that you are looking to sell?? The T27 I received last year has running rigging and pole attachment on the mast for a spinnaker but not pole or sail.
Patrick
On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 8:17 PM Rick Gengarelly < rickg1952@...> wrote: I lost my T 27 two years ago. I'm selling mast, sails, parts, etc..? Thanks, Rick
Robert,?
I'm intereted in your Tartan 27. I know Stu at Wikander's. Would it be possible to go aboard and take a look at her??
Mel?
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Patrick McGoughShip 7117 - Skipper
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I am interested in a used main sail for my tartan.?
On Monday, March 15, 2021, 8:17 PM, Rick Gengarelly <rickg1952@...> wrote: I lost my T 27 two years ago. I'm selling mast, sails, parts, etc..? Thanks, Rick Robert,?
I'm intereted in your Tartan 27. I know Stu at Wikander's. Would it be possible to go aboard and take a look at her??
Mel?
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Rick,
Any chance you have a spinnaker pole and spinnaker that you are looking to sell?? The T27 I received last year has running rigging and pole attachment on the mast for a spinnaker but not pole or sail.
Patrick
On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 8:17 PM Rick Gengarelly < rickg1952@...> wrote: I lost my T 27 two years ago. I'm selling mast, sails, parts, etc..? Thanks, Rick
Robert,?
I'm intereted in your Tartan 27. I know Stu at Wikander's. Would it be possible to go aboard and take a look at her??
Mel?
-- Patrick McGoughShip 7117 - Skipper
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I lost my T 27 two years ago. I'm selling mast, sails, parts, etc..? Thanks, Rick
Robert,?
I'm intereted in your Tartan 27. I know Stu at Wikander's. Would it be possible to go aboard and take a look at her??
Mel?
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Yeah, I gave it back to Stu, you'd have to call him and make arrangements. If you have any questions about the boat, he'd be able to answer any. I'm sure you could go over and look at it.
Robert,?
I'm intereted in your Tartan 27. I know Stu at Wikander's. Would it be possible to go aboard and take a look at her??
Mel?
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Robert,?
I'm intereted in your Tartan 27. I know Stu at Wikander's. Would it be possible to go aboard and take a look at her??
Mel?
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#226 here. I've had the same issue and found that the micro thin 11/16 thickness?works well.It leaves about 1/4 inch for the cutlass. I motored up the Hudson and half the Erie Canal without any problems.Now in fresh water?I have to use Aluminum?and they only make that in metric, but a 25mm works fine.
On Fri, Mar 12, 2021 at 3:03 PM Caleb Davison via <calebjess= [email protected]> wrote:
Jeremy,
I'd go with the collar zinc.? Your pictures show that you have over 1" of shaft showing between the prop and deadwood of the hull.? Collar zincs do come in a 1" size that will fit in there.
The zinc was always an issue for #328 as when we originally got her there was only about 3/4" of gap there.? This forced me to grind down a 1" collar zinc so it would fit in there.? I never had any issue with water getting into the stern tube/cutlass not that we motored a lot.? When it came time to replace the cutlass & shaft I had the prop shop cut me a shaft that was maybe 1/2" longer than the one we cut out which left me plenty of room to put the collar zinc.? What I heard from the prop shop guy was that for a 1" shaft you don't want much more than 1" between the prop and the cutlass bearing - this was more about not having too much unsupported shaft sticking out beyond the cutlass.? It is not ideal to have the zinc squeezed in there but even with the prop spinning I don't think that water getting to the cutlass was ever an issue for us.
In an ideal world I would use a prop nut that had a zinc outer shell instead but I could never find the right size.? I am pretty sure that they make a zinc like this, that has a captive nut for holding the prop on.? The only issue with this is that perhaps every year (or every other year) you will be changing the prop nut.??
Good luck.
Caleb D
T27 #328,?
-----Original Message-----
From: jeremy@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thu, Mar 11, 2021 9:32 pm
Subject: Re: [T27Owners] Propeller Zinc
Do you think that acorn zinc would work on this setup?
I don't have any extra threads or much clearance. Maybe if the aftmost nut was also a thin one? The other option is a thin collar anode, but there ain't much room between the prop and deadwood either. I've heard that for a 1" shaft, you'd really like to have 1" of space between the deadwood and zinc. But that would mean an exceedingly slim 1/4" zinc in my case. The concern is that if there isn't enough space, the cutlass bearing won't get enough water flow and will overheat. For sailing in and out of the marina, that is fine, but my current cruising plans include a bit of motoring for 8+ hours at a time.
?- jeremy
On Sun, Feb 7, 2021 at 1:40 PM Steve Bufe < sbufe@...> wrote: Does anyone have a favorite source for Propeller Zinc's?
The one I got in the past is "Zinc Acorn Nut 2-1/8 x 1-1/2"
The Marina can get them, but the price is higher than I'd like to pay
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Jeremy,
I'd go with the collar zinc.? Your pictures show that you have over 1" of shaft showing between the prop and deadwood of the hull.? Collar zincs do come in a 1" size that will fit in there.
The zinc was always an issue for #328 as when we originally got her there was only about 3/4" of gap there.? This forced me to grind down a 1" collar zinc so it would fit in there.? I never had any issue with water getting into the stern tube/cutlass not that we motored a lot.? When it came time to replace the cutlass & shaft I had the prop shop cut me a shaft that was maybe 1/2" longer than the one we cut out which left me plenty of room to put the collar zinc.? What I heard from the prop shop guy was that for a 1" shaft you don't want much more than 1" between the prop and the cutlass bearing - this was more about not having too much unsupported shaft sticking out beyond the cutlass.? It is not ideal to have the zinc squeezed in there but even with the prop spinning I don't think that water getting to the cutlass was ever an issue for us.
In an ideal world I would use a prop nut that had a zinc outer shell instead but I could never find the right size.? I am pretty sure that they make a zinc like this, that has a captive nut for holding the prop on.? The only issue with this is that perhaps every year (or every other year) you will be changing the prop nut.??
Good luck.
Caleb D
T27 #328,?
-----Original Message-----
From: jeremy@...
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thu, Mar 11, 2021 9:32 pm
Subject: Re: [T27Owners] Propeller Zinc
Do you think that acorn zinc would work on this setup?
I don't have any extra threads or much clearance. Maybe if the aftmost nut was also a thin one? The other option is a thin collar anode, but there ain't much room between the prop and deadwood either. I've heard that for a 1" shaft, you'd really like to have 1" of space between the deadwood and zinc. But that would mean an exceedingly slim 1/4" zinc in my case. The concern is that if there isn't enough space, the cutlass bearing won't get enough water flow and will overheat. For sailing in and out of the marina, that is fine, but my current cruising plans include a bit of motoring for 8+ hours at a time.
?- jeremy
On Sun, Feb 7, 2021 at 1:40 PM Steve Bufe < sbufe@...> wrote: Does anyone have a favorite source for Propeller Zinc's?
The one I got in the past is "Zinc Acorn Nut 2-1/8 x 1-1/2"
The Marina can get them, but the price is higher than I'd like to pay
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Do you think that acorn zinc would work on this setup?
I don't have any extra threads or much clearance. Maybe if the aftmost nut was also a thin one? The other option is a thin collar anode, but there ain't much room between the prop and deadwood either. I've heard that for a 1" shaft, you'd really like to have 1" of space between the deadwood and zinc. But that would mean an exceedingly slim 1/4" zinc in my case. The concern is that if there isn't enough space, the cutlass bearing won't get enough water flow and will overheat. For sailing in and out of the marina, that is fine, but my current cruising plans include a bit of motoring for 8+ hours at a time. ?- jeremy
On Sun, Feb 7, 2021 at 1:40 PM Steve Bufe < sbufe@...> wrote: Does anyone have a favorite source for Propeller Zinc's?
The one I got in the past is "Zinc Acorn Nut 2-1/8 x 1-1/2"
The Marina can get them, but the price is higher than I'd like to pay
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Tartan 27 for sale in N.J.
Hi all, I'm selling "Mooneshine," hull #81. Currently on the hard at Beaton & Sons in Brick. N.J. Year: 1964. Complete in good condition. Full set of sails including mains, spinnakers and several hank-on head sails. Repowered with Universal M18 in 2012. Very low hours. New fuel and exhaust systems. Chainplates replaced. New interior cushions from Kinder Inc. New topsides paint. Original roller reefing system. Port-a-potty. Listing it here before circulating the ad more widely. Asking $5,500. Email me at aaron.kuriloff@... or text 917-621-6790.??
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I usually go with one like this for my 1 in. shaft with?Atomic Four setup mounted just aft of the cutlass bearing. It lasts through the season for me. You can find them pretty much anywhere?for less than $15.
On Sun, Feb 7, 2021 at 7:08 PM Warren Stein via <wrsteinesq= [email protected]> wrote: I just ordered from BoatZincs.com.? ?They have a ¡®micro-thin¡¯ zinc, 1¡± diameter by 11/16¡± thick.? ?I don¡¯t have a lot of room between the deadwood and the prop hub, so this seemed like it ought to work fine.? Don¡¯t know if it¡¯ll have enough mass to make it thru a season.? ?Previously we had a Camp brand, which had a nice little copper ball inset for good conductivity, but it was too long and it was a pain to cut/grind to fit.? Price on the new one from BoatZinc.com was I think $11.56, but with shipping it ends up being just under $20.? ?
> On Feb 7, 2021, at 1:41 PM, Steve Bufe <sbufe@...> wrote:
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> ?Does anyone have a favorite source for Propeller Zinc's?
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> The one I got in the past is "Zinc Acorn Nut 2-1/8 x 1-1/2"
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> The Marina can get them, but the price is higher than I'd like to pay
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I just ordered from BoatZincs.com. They have a ¡®micro-thin¡¯ zinc, 1¡± diameter by 11/16¡± thick. I don¡¯t have a lot of room between the deadwood and the prop hub, so this seemed like it ought to work fine. Don¡¯t know if it¡¯ll have enough mass to make it thru a season. Previously we had a Camp brand, which had a nice little copper ball inset for good conductivity, but it was too long and it was a pain to cut/grind to fit. Price on the new one from BoatZinc.com was I think $11.56, but with shipping it ends up being just under $20.
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On Feb 7, 2021, at 1:41 PM, Steve Bufe <sbufe@...> wrote:
?Does anyone have a favorite source for Propeller Zinc's?
The one I got in the past is "Zinc Acorn Nut 2-1/8 x 1-1/2"
The Marina can get them, but the price is higher than I'd like to pay
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Does anyone have a favorite source for Propeller Zinc's?
The one I got in the past is "Zinc Acorn Nut 2-1/8 x 1-1/2"
The Marina can get them, but the price is higher than I'd like to pay
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I'm selling my T27, hull number 12. It has a yanmar 2gm, sails,mast, standing rigging. Its a project boat that needs restoration. Located at Wikanders in Eden, MD. I would like to see if there's any interest here first, before I post it on another site next week. $1200. Thanks--Rob.
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Re: sailing in or out of gear
I used to lock it in reverse and line up the prop behind the deadwood with the Atomic 4 for racing.??
Keep in mind that a spinning prop is putting some limited strain on your entire drive system; from transmission to Stuffing box to? Cutlass bearing.? If you want to extend the lifespan of your Cutlass bearing you will keep it from spinning, if your transmission allows.? Check the manual for the propulsion system you have on your boat.
Caleb D
T27 #328
-----Original Message-----
From: JOHN P GARHART <jgarhart@...>
To: [email protected] < [email protected]>
Sent: Tue, Feb 2, 2021 7:19 pm
Subject: Re: [T27Owners] sailing in or out of gear
FWIW, I sail with the transmission in reverse, the prop shaft doesn't turn and I sometimes line up the prop behind the keel. Is this the best approach...I have no idea.? j
This is from the transmission manual. HURTHHBW?50
On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 9:15 AM Steve Bufe < sbufe@...> wrote:
All,? During this long covid winter my thoughts turn to sailing.? So from the standpoint of efficiently is it better to sail with the gearbox in neutral or in gear?? Somewhere I heard that it's not good to sail in neutral, as the prop shaft if always turning.?
I've always sailed in neutral, and am wondering if I'm doing it wrong.? I have a two bladed prop.
Any guidance is appreciated
Steve
78 T27II Hull # 663??
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Re: sailing in or out of gear
If I really want speed line a 2 blade with the deadwood or cruising i let it spin 20 years with a westerbeke no problem, has a;ways been my approach
If a 2 blade is lined up behind the deadwood that is probably the least drag. In free water a spinning 3 blade is less drag than a fixed 3 blade.?
Some transmissions cannot be kept in gear. Yanmars with Kanzaki transmission have to be in neutral as if it is in gear the clutches chatter and suffer wear. This also voids the warranty according to Yanmar.
On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 4:19 PM JOHN P GARHART < jgarhart@...> wrote:
FWIW, I sail with the transmission in reverse, the prop shaft doesn't turn and I sometimes line up the prop behind the keel. Is this the best approach...I have no idea.? j
This is from the transmission manual. HURTHHBW?50
On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 9:15 AM Steve Bufe < sbufe@...> wrote:
All,? During this long covid winter my thoughts turn to sailing.? So from the standpoint of efficiently is it better to sail with the gearbox in neutral or in gear?? Somewhere I heard that it's not good to sail in neutral, as the prop shaft if always turning.?
I've always sailed in neutral, and am wondering if I'm doing it wrong.? I have a two bladed prop.
Any guidance is appreciated
Steve
78 T27II Hull # 663??
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Re: sailing in or out of gear
If a 2 blade is lined up behind the deadwood that is probably the least drag. In free water a spinning 3 blade is less drag than a fixed 3 blade.?
Some transmissions cannot be kept in gear. Yanmars with Kanzaki transmission have to be in neutral as if it is in gear the clutches chatter and suffer wear. This also voids the warranty according to Yanmar.
On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 4:19 PM JOHN P GARHART < jgarhart@...> wrote:
FWIW, I sail with the transmission in reverse, the prop shaft doesn't turn and I sometimes line up the prop behind the keel. Is this the best approach...I have no idea.? j
This is from the transmission manual. HURTHHBW?50
On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 9:15 AM Steve Bufe < sbufe@...> wrote:
All,? During this long covid winter my thoughts turn to sailing.? So from the standpoint of efficiently is it better to sail with the gearbox in neutral or in gear?? Somewhere I heard that it's not good to sail in neutral, as the prop shaft if always turning.?
I've always sailed in neutral, and am wondering if I'm doing it wrong.? I have a two bladed prop.
Any guidance is appreciated
Steve
78 T27II Hull # 663??
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