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Re: replacement sink
Matthias, I've checked my sink, and it looks to be in pretty good shape.?? I haven't cleaned it up, but there are no obvious dents, holes, or other problems.?? The outside flange measures about 12 3/4" by about 15 1/2".??? Should I go any further, or have you opted for another approach??? Regards----Warren Stein, Hull # 535, Seanachie, Waterford, VA.
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From: Matthias Klemm To: T27Owners@... Sent: Wed, 2 Apr 2008 1:23 pm Subject: Re: [T27Owners] replacement sink Yeah, Caleb, I'm getting closer and closer to making my own sink. I'm pretty sure now, that I don't want another stainless steel sink and probably make a plug off the old sink and then use gelcoat and polyester resin.
The trip to Stuart never materialized because my todo list was not getting any shorter and the marina in Green Cove Springs is located rather?conveniently?close to my sister's house so I can travel back and forth to fabricate and install stuff. But I did have a nice little voyage to St. Augustine with my daughter and her friend for spring break.
Matthias
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Re: T27 Yawl and Sloop PHRF
Walter Glasspool
We have one(1) T-27 racing in the Punta Gorda Sailing Club. Tobie has a SWFlorida rating of 299 --- seems a bit high! See attachment for club's site --- a bit of an advertisment. :-) Click on racing results. Check a race# ?and look at cruising fleet. More information may be possible from our racing captain. Click on racing. Hope it helps. Walt Patience T-27-2, 695
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Re: T27 Yawl and Sloop PHRF
Guys, ? When I first got Scarlet about two years ago I checked around on the internet and was able to find a listing of PHRF numbers for the T-27, and most other boats, all over the country. As I reacall they varied from a low of about 240 to 252, I believe. I believe there are a good many on the Chesapeake that have established a rating of 252. If you do some digging on the net I'm sure you can find the site I mentioned. ? Billy Ray?Davis Scarlet #79 ? calebjess@... wrote:
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Re: T27 Yawl and Sloop PHRF
Chris,
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We have raced T27 hull #328 on the Hudson at the Nyack Boat Club. Our boat is sloop rigged so no choice of Yawl rigged vs. Sloop. I believe that we get a 'base' PHRF rating of 236 to which we add 2 points for both the roller furling jib and the fixed 2 blade prop, giving us a final PHRF of 240 in our Wednesday night races. I have no documentation to give you to back this up however. My feeling is that the rather high rating comes from the nearly full keel shape that her hull presents to the water, similar in design to an Ensign (also PHRF 240 at our club). The centerboard makes racing this boat fun as at different depths it has differing beneficial effects depending upon the point of sailing. I am curious why you are interested in both sloop and yawl type rigging as it was my understanding that with the yawl the main sail was necessarily smaller (and not quite as tall) to make room for the mizzen mast and sail. I also thought that with the yawl rig that the main mast was set up a little further forward (again, to make room for the after mast and sail). The only info I have on the difference between sloop and yawl rigged T27 comes from the 'information.htm' file in the Files section of the Yahoo Group: Sail Area 376' (sloop) 394' (yawl) ---------------------------- Sloop Yawl I 34.65' 33.50' J 9.83' 9.83' P 30.50' 29.50' E 13.50' 13.00' PY 13.00' (yawl only on these 2) EY 5.67' The above information is extracted from the old tartan27owners.com website with no supporting documentation. The only other tidbit of information I can add is that the PHRF rating is the same for a sloop (presumably a yawl too) whether racing in a spinnaker division or not. My question for you is, is the T27 you intend to race sloop rigged or yawl rigged or do you have both at your disposal? Welcome to the T27 group. Caleb Davison T27 #328 "Odalisque" 1967 Nyack on Hudson -----Original Message-----
From: tuskert27 <uni@...> To: T27Owners@... Sent: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 2:52 pm Subject: [T27Owners] T27 Yawl and Sloop PHRF I am planning to race my boat as a yawl or a sloop in PHRF or IRC. Does anyone have any certificates for the sloop or the yawl in PHRF or IRC for a T27?? If so, I would like to have a copy of them to review and compare to the measured data from my boat. If you need to fax them to me, please fax them to me at Fax: 530-348-6949 Any comments as the ratings for either of the boats would be great. Thanks very much, Chris Becker Tusker T27 Number 511 Larchmont, NY ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links |
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Re: T27 Yawl and Sloop PHRF
I am also really interested in this information. I
remeber reading online that it was 250 or 254. ambler hull 555 --- tuskert27 <uni@...> wrote: I am planning to race my boat as a yawl or a sloop ____________________________________________________________________________________ You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. |
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Tartan 27 Sloops and Yawl PHRF and IRC Ratings
tuskert27
I am interested in getting comments on the PHRF for both the Tartan 27
yawl and sloop as well as anyone with an IRC rating. If you have copies that you would like to share with me, please email them to me or fax them to me at Fax: 530-348-6949 Thanks and will be looking forward to hearing from the group on this area. Chris Becker Tusker T27 Number 511 Larchmont, NY |
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Re: T27 Yawl and Sloop PHRF
Sidney Cullison
Chris, I am sorry but I don't.Why don't you try Tartan them selves they may have a copy.I am in to cruising so have?never?had a need for them,how ever I did get a package of papers with my boat and will go thur them and double check but it doesn't ring a bell sorry. Sidney
----- Original Message ---- From: tuskert27 To: T27Owners@... Sent: Sunday, April 6, 2008 2:52:26 PM Subject: [T27Owners] T27 Yawl and Sloop PHRF I am planning to race my boat as a yawl or a sloop in PHRF or IRC. You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you , No Cost. |
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T27 Yawl and Sloop PHRF
tuskert27
I am planning to race my boat as a yawl or a sloop in PHRF or IRC.
Does anyone have any certificates for the sloop or the yawl in PHRF or IRC for a T27?? If so, I would like to have a copy of them to review and compare to the measured data from my boat. If you need to fax them to me, please fax them to me at Fax: 530-348-6949 Any comments as the ratings for either of the boats would be great. Thanks very much, Chris Becker Tusker T27 Number 511 Larchmont, NY |
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Re: Buying replacement parts for a 27
Matthias Klemm
And here I go again having to praise my much loved Universal (Kubota) M3-20 (18hp).
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At 1500rpm it's using less than a pint an hour. Which translates to 5kts thru the water in calm conditions. Matthias On Apr 5, 2008, at 10:54 AM, <brian@...> wrote:
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Re: Buying replacement parts for a 27
Sidney Cullison
Brain, thank you for all your suggestions.Price did play a roll in buying the boat but the boat it's self had more to do with it. All the majors with the her are in?good??shape as she has been well maintained just needed a good cleaning and light painting.?Her?po loved her he?just ran out of time to keep her clean.I am having the mechanic that has serviced her in the past go over everything and service her diesel completely with new fluids,filters and fuel tank cleaning before she even moves?as this is not my first rodeo.I grew up with my family owning and running a marina and marine repair faucility on the chesapeake bay.(I still own the marina an old home place up there with my brothers)Also having worked for John Trumpy Jr.of Trumpy Yachts and Tom Colvin the
famous sailboat designer and builder back in the seventies,I do know enought to ask others such as your self for advice and guildenace as you'll are more savy to this boat than myself.Your right about the hatch I just wanted to find one for the fact as she hits my home port she will be recieving a new coat of paint on her decks and I wanted the hatch to be painted at the same time so it would match.I will look into US Boats as you are right again on the towing it can get out of sight as I have been in the tow boats position and you are at?their mercey?of these people when your stranded,so any and all the suggestions,advice,and ideas you can give me I would be greatful for.Oh the picture of your boat,she looks like she a keeper.Fair sailing? to you, Sidney????
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I wouldn¡¯t focus too much on it being a $4500 boat.? The resale should be $13K to $18K depending on how nicely it¡¯s kept.? I paid $3K for mine with a supposedly dead diesel engine.? ? It¡¯s also important to realize that there is no such thing as a money making boat. ? I¡¯d recommend that you check your chain plates and rigging before you mess around with your hatch.? Push comes to shove you can wrap it in a tarp and close the hatch.? It won¡¯t be pretty but it will do pretty well.? You lose a chain plate or rigging with the sail up and you may lose the boat or at the very least the mast. ? That said, Tartans are well built and the 27 is a tank.? Assuming the Diesel conversion was done well you shouldn¡¯t have much to worry about.? With a lower price boat I would make sure you didn¡¯t have a fool as a PO.? My PO had all sorts of unsafe and stupid things.? The water strainer was hooked up backwards¡. The cockpit drain had doubled up bicycle tubing instead of hose and pipe. The list went on and on.? ? You basically want to spend some quality time looking around for potential trouble spots.? I¡¯d highly recommend keeping a current towing membership, a good anchor, a good vhf (or two), and a good bilge pump.? You can get out of most headaches with TowBoat US for $120/yr.? That may seem expensive, but I understand the hourly rate for tows in our area is $250.? I¡¯ve been towed in once in the last two years because my fuel filter clogged.? Speaking of which, you want to make damn sure you have extra filters with a cheap older boat.? No telling what is in that tank.? Mine wound up having a sponge some yahoo had stuffed in the fill.? The fuel tank by the way is Monel..? That¡¯s Pronounced MONEY from HELL¡ meaning that it is probably worth half the boat¡¯s value.? Monel is very very expensive.? It¡¯s in there for good, doesn¡¯t corrode.? Best material to make a tank out of.? There? is probably not a cleanout but there are baffles inside the tank.? It¡¯s about an 18 gallon tank and if your diesel is like mine you¡¯ll use about a pint an hour.? I have a 10hp diesel which is a tad undersized but functional for ? of hull speed.? A 20HP would consume roughly double the diesel. ? Good luck and have a safe trip. Welcome to the club.. ? Brian Greul Texas Shirt Company 713-802-0369 / 713-861-6261 (fax) Targeted, Effective Promotions to help you grow your brand You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you , No Cost. |
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Re: Buying replacement parts for a 27
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýI wouldn¡¯t focus too much on it being a $4500 boat.? The resale should be $13K to $18K depending on how nicely it¡¯s kept.? I paid $3K for mine with a supposedly dead diesel engine.? ? It¡¯s also important to realize that there is no such thing as a money making boat. ? I¡¯d recommend that you check your chain plates and rigging before you mess around with your hatch.? Push comes to shove you can wrap it in a tarp and close the hatch.? It won¡¯t be pretty but it will do pretty well.? You lose a chain plate or rigging with the sail up and you may lose the boat or at the very least the mast. ? That said, Tartans are well built and the 27 is a tank.? Assuming the Diesel conversion was done well you shouldn¡¯t have much to worry about.? With a lower price boat I would make sure you didn¡¯t have a fool as a PO.? My PO had all sorts of unsafe and stupid things.? The water strainer was hooked up backwards¡. The cockpit drain had doubled up bicycle tubing instead of hose and pipe. The list went on and on.? ? You basically want to spend some quality time looking around for potential trouble spots.? I¡¯d highly recommend keeping a current towing membership, a good anchor, a good vhf (or two), and a good bilge pump.? You can get out of most headaches with TowBoat US for $120/yr.? That may seem expensive, but I understand the hourly rate for tows in our area is $250.? I¡¯ve been towed in once in the last two years because my fuel filter clogged.? Speaking of which, you want to make damn sure you have extra filters with a cheap older boat.? No telling what is in that tank.? Mine wound up having a sponge some yahoo had stuffed in the fill.? The fuel tank by the way is Monel.? That¡¯s Pronounced MONEY from HELL¡ meaning that it is probably worth half the boat¡¯s value.? Monel is very very expensive.? It¡¯s in there for good, doesn¡¯t corrode.? Best material to make a tank out of.? There? is probably not a cleanout but there are baffles inside the tank.? It¡¯s about an 18 gallon tank and if your diesel is like mine you¡¯ll use about a pint an hour.? I have a 10hp diesel which is a tad undersized but functional for ? of hull speed.? A 20HP would consume roughly double the diesel. ? Good luck and have a safe trip. Welcome to the club. ? Brian Greul Texas Shirt Company 713-802-0369 / 713-861-6261 (fax) Targeted, Effective Promotions to help you grow your brand |
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Re: Centerboard lifting system
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýYou really need to pull the boat and check your centerboard.? There are a few things that can become dangerous or expensive. ? Check the pivot point.? This tends to rot out or corrode out. The point where the pennant exits the hull can ¡°saw¡± through your fiberglass.? You have to remove the rubber hose to check this.? It¡¯s underwater at this point so you¡¯d be checking it in a ¡°gurgling spring¡±. The attachment point is a pain in the a** to work with.? It¡¯s easier on land. ? Most marinas will do a overnight ¡°hang in the crane¡± deal for not much more than a quick haul.? You need 2 to 3 hours to do this right. ? I had a homemade board that was too light and not built right.? After I replaced the pennant and fixed the through-hull point, I was checking out the board and thought it looked strange, so I gave it a tug and it fell out. Better on land than at sea!? Although I think it needs to ¡°go away¡± anyhow. ? Brian Greul Texas Shirt Company 713-802-0369 / 713-861-6261 (fax) Targeted, Effective Promotions to help you grow your brand |
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Re: Heavy Air Question
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýYes, if you don¡¯t have enough headsail out she won¡¯t behave worth a damn¡..?? It seems to be from the bow acting as a sail and fighting you.? You need lots of extra power in the front to deal with that, or you need to fire the engine to override it. ? I¡¯ve been caught out in Galveston bay a couple times in thunderstorms.? I normally drop anchor, let out 100¡¯ of rode and wait it out.? Our bay is about 10 to 20¡¯ deep.? Great holding, nasty mud.? In 40 to 60 mph winds the boat becomes very very difficult to manage.? ? Wave wise, she¡¯s a trooper.? I had to go to Galveston last July.? We had 25mph winds, 2-3 foot seas and intermittent rains.? The channel where I leave Clear Lake is narrow and frequently the waves concentrate there.? We had to punch through 5 foot waves every 2 to 3 seconds.? The people in the restaurants probably thought we were crazy, but once we got into the 2 to 3 foot waves we were just fine.? It was a very wild ride in the 5 to 6 foot stuff but the boat handled it just fine and I never felt unsafe in the least.? Although I was certain my soda would be flat shortly and it wasn¡¯t a good time to use the head! ? Brian Greul Texas Shirt Company 713-802-0369 / 713-861-6261 (fax) Targeted, Effective Promotions to help you grow your brand |
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Re: Buying replacement parts for a 27
Sidney Cullison
Capt. Warren,I lived right across the creek from the yacht club(when I was with my father)on Stutts Creek and that was Mathews and my mothers place was in Redart on Stutts Creek (which I still own it has a small marina and shop with the house that is for sale) right inside the Hole in the wall.Actully my boat is from Mobil Al.and I will be sailing it back to Savannah.I am retired at an early age and am trying to have some good clean fun.(boats keep me out of trouble ha,ha)If you look at the for sale section at tartan owners.org the black 27 with the diesel motor thats listed for $5,000.00 is the boat I bought.If you have a number where you could be reached I would be glad to give you a shout, as I am still looking
for some more 27's.This boat is going to end up being a show piece sort of as I am going start a business that takes these boats and kind of resto-mod them in keeping the classic design with todays techs.for resale to the public.Right now Tartan has 6 boats that they will give me,I just have to come get(have truck an trailor? and will ride) thats been given to them hoping Tartan would restore them but they have no interst in it but are willing to help me with the up-start?so I am going to take a stab at it.Again thanks and let me know. Sidney???? ----- Original Message ---- From: "wrsteinesq@..." To: T27Owners@... Sent: Friday, April 4, 2008 1:34:29 PM Subject: Re: [T27Owners] Buying replacement parts for a 27
Hi Sidney----Well, I'm sorry to see another Tartan depart the Chesapeake; but home's where you drop your anchor, I suppose.?? I know for sure there's no vent cut into my hatch, but I'd be pretty sure it's scratched/crazed, probably original.?? I don't think there's much if anything wrong with the fiberglass; and perhaps the plexiglas is replaceable? ? I didn't waste much time on it because I knew I wasn't going to use it anyway.?? I think the hinges are still attached, too.??? Anyway, I'll check it and drop you a line over the weekend.??? BTW, Waterford is landlocked, in very Northern Virginia, in Loudoun County.?? Where in Matthews are you from??? Regards---?
From: Sidney Cullison yahoo.com> To: T27Owners@yahoogrou Sent: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 2:25 pm Subject: Re: [T27Owners] Buying replacement parts for a 27 Ha Capt. Warren,yes I am looking for a forward hatch.I have just bought my boat(haven't brought to my home port yet)off the Tartans owners web site.Boat has one now but has had a solar vent installed?in it and the clear section has cracked?bad and leaks.And with having 800 miles of sailing to bring her home I would like to have it alittle more secured hatch or it could get nasty.Waterford Va sounds familiar as I am from Mathews Va but now live outside Savannah Ga.Tartan can build me a teak one for $800.00 but when you spend $4,500.00 for the whole boat with a diesel something just doesn't work there.Anyway thanks if you have one and it's not in bad shape let me know and we can work something out if you like.(whats funny is I can find new ones for pearsons,odays, catalinas, hunters and they are only $200.00)go figure.Oh the guy that with Tartan is also from
White Stone Va.Thanks Sidney ----- Original Message ---- From: "wrsteinesq@ " To: T27Owners@yahoogrou Sent: Friday, April 4, 2008 12:14:12 PM Subject: Re: [T27Owners] Buying replacement parts for a 27 If you're talking about the forward hatch, and not the companionway hatch, I might be able to help you.?? I removed mine in favor of a Lewmar hatch, and I'm pretty sure I've still got it lying around somewhere.?? I'm sure it's not in tip-top shape but it might be a whole lot better than what you've got---or maybe yours is missing?? Where are you? ? Regards,? Warren Stein---Hull #535, Seanachie, Waterford, VA -----Original Message-----From: sidneycullison yahoo.com> To: T27Owners@yahoogrou Sent: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 12:33 pm Subject: [T27Owners] Buying replacement parts for a 27 Ahoy all,I have recently purchased a 1974 tartan 27 and am looking for a replacement hatch(gel coat finish with clear fiberglass center)as they are not avalible through Tartan only custom made teak hatches which are very pricey.Does any-one know of any-one making these as replacement parts for the tartan 27?Thanks for any information everybody.Sidney Get the , Maps, Traffic, Directions More! You rock. That's why Blockbuster' s offering you , No Cost.
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Re: Buying replacement parts for a 27
Hi Sidney----Well, I'm sorry to see another Tartan depart the Chesapeake; but home's where you drop your anchor, I suppose.?? I know for sure there's no vent cut into my hatch, but I'd be pretty sure it's scratched/crazed, probably original.?? I don't think there's much if anything wrong with the fiberglass; and perhaps the plexiglas is replaceable? ? I didn't waste much time on it because I knew I wasn't going to use it anyway.?? I think the hinges are still attached, too.??? Anyway, I'll check it and drop you a line over the weekend.??? BTW, Waterford is landlocked, in very Northern Virginia, in Loudoun County.?? Where in Matthews are you from??? Regards---?
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From: Sidney Cullison To: T27Owners@... Sent: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 2:25 pm Subject: Re: [T27Owners] Buying replacement parts for a 27 Ha Capt. Warren,yes I am looking for a forward hatch.I have just bought my boat(haven't brought to my home port yet)off the Tartans owners web site.Boat has one now but has had a solar vent installed?in it and the clear section has cracked?bad and leaks.And with having 800 miles of sailing to bring her home I would like to have it alittle more secured hatch or it could get nasty.Waterford Va sounds familiar as I am from Mathews Va but now live outside Savannah Ga.Tartan can build me a teak one for $800.00 but when you spend $4,500.00 for the whole boat with a diesel something just doesn't work there.Anyway thanks if you have one and it's not in bad shape let me know and we can work something out if you like.(whats funny is I can find new ones for pearsons,odays,
White Stone Va.Thanks Sidney
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From: "wrsteinesq@ To: T27Owners@yahoogrou Sent: Friday, April 4, 2008 12:14:12 PM Subject: Re: [T27Owners] Buying replacement parts for a 27 If you're talking about the forward hatch, and not the companionway hatch, I might be able to help you.?? I removed mine in favor of a Lewmar hatch, and I'm pretty sure I've still got it lying around somewhere.?? I'm sure it's not in tip-top shape but it might be a whole lot better than what you've got---or maybe yours is missing?? Where are you? ? Regards,? Warren Stein---Hull #535, Seanachie, Waterford, VA
-----Original Message-----From: sidneycullison yahoo.com> To: T27Owners@yahoogrou Sent: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 12:33 pm Subject: [T27Owners] Buying replacement parts for a 27 Ahoy all,I have recently purchased a 1974 tartan 27 and am looking for
a replacement hatch(gel coat finish with clear fiberglass center)as they are not avalible through Tartan only custom made teak hatches which are very pricey.Does any-one know of any-one making these as replacement parts for the tartan 27?Thanks for any information everybody.Sidney
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Re: Buying replacement parts for a 27
Sidney Cullison
Ha Capt. Warren,yes I am looking for a forward hatch.I have just bought my boat(haven't brought to my home port yet)off the Tartans owners web site.Boat has one now but has had a solar vent installed?in it and the clear section has cracked?bad and leaks.And with having 800 miles of sailing to bring her home I would like to have it alittle more secured hatch or it could get nasty.Waterford Va sounds familiar as I am from Mathews Va but now live outside Savannah Ga.Tartan can build me a teak one for $800.00 but when you spend $4,500.00 for the whole boat with a diesel something just doesn't work there.Anyway thanks if you have one and it's not in bad shape let me know and we can work something out if you like.(whats funny is I can find new ones for pearsons,odays,catalinas,hunters and
they are only $200.00)go figure.Oh the guy that with Tartan is also from
White Stone Va.Thanks Sidney ----- Original Message ---- From: "wrsteinesq@..." To: T27Owners@... Sent: Friday, April 4, 2008 12:14:12 PM Subject: Re: [T27Owners] Buying replacement parts for a 27
If you're talking about the forward hatch, and not the companionway hatch, I might be able to help you.?? I removed mine in favor of a Lewmar hatch, and I'm pretty sure I've still got it lying around somewhere.?? I'm sure it's not in tip-top shape but it might be a whole lot better than what you've got---or maybe yours is missing?? Where are you? ? Regards,? Warren Stein---Hull #535, Seanachie, Waterford, VA -----Original Message-----From: sidneycullison yahoo.com> To: T27Owners@yahoogrou Sent: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 12:33 pm Subject: [T27Owners] Buying replacement parts for a 27 Ahoy all,I have recently purchased a 1974 tartan 27 and am looking for a replacement hatch(gel coat finish with clear fiberglass center)as they are not avalible through Tartan only custom made teak hatches which are very pricey.Does any-one know of any-one making these as replacement parts for the tartan 27?Thanks for any information everybody.Sidney
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Re: Buying replacement parts for a 27
If you're talking about the forward hatch, and not the companionway hatch, I might be able to help you.?? I removed mine in favor of a Lewmar hatch, and I'm pretty sure I've still got it lying around somewhere.?? I'm sure it's not in tip-top shape but it might be a whole lot better than what you've got---or maybe yours is missing?? Where are you? ? Regards,? Warren Stein---Hull #535, Seanachie, Waterford, VA -----Original Message-----
From: sidneycullison To: T27Owners@... Sent: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 12:33 pm Subject: [T27Owners] Buying replacement parts for a 27 Ahoy all,I have recently purchased a 1974 tartan 27 and am looking for
a replacement hatch(gel coat finish with clear fiberglass center)as they are not avalible through Tartan only custom made teak hatches which are very pricey.Does any-one know of any-one making these as replacement parts for the tartan 27?Thanks for any information everybody.Sidney Get the , Maps, Traffic, Directions & More! |
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Buying replacement parts for a 27
sidneycullison
Ahoy all,I have recently purchased a 1974 tartan 27 and am looking for
a replacement hatch(gel coat finish with clear fiberglass center)as they are not avalible through Tartan only custom made teak hatches which are very pricey.Does any-one know of any-one making these as replacement parts for the tartan 27?Thanks for any information everybody.Sidney |
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Re: replacement sink
Matthias Klemm
Thank you for the kind offer, Bill but I think I will?pursue?the plastic replacement.
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Matthias On Apr 2, 2008, at 10:15 AM, Bill Davis wrote:
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Re: replacement sink
Matthias Klemm
Thank you Chris, that is very kind of you but I'm leaning more and more to a plastic replacement.
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Matthias On Apr 2, 2008, at 9:38 AM, chrisd4700 wrote:
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