Transfer from Yahoo to groups.io
Noticed that photos and attachments in messages from old platform do not seem to have made it to the new platform.? Am I missing something?
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? HotFlash
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Re: group has moved to groups.io since yaho groups is "retiring"
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? HotFlash
Thanks, Caleb for your great run.
Mary
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Chain plates.
Hopefully at her age they have been done.
They should be redone so they are not encapsulated in fiberglass but are visible on the surface of the knees in the lockers, best to use 316 for plates and bolts.
There are several methods to approach the issue depending on the condition of the knees.
Also Beddit butyl tape is your friend
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Carl Damm
DAMSELv
1976 #593
Stuart Fl
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group has moved to groups.io since yaho groups is "retiring"
Hi Tartan 27' owner or member of the T27Owners group on Yahoo.
Groups.io says it has transferred all your ID's, pictures, messages etc over to their website and if you are receiving this email you are probably already registered for our (continued) new group.? Groups.io has a different new member vetting scheme than yahoo so I may have to approve all of your first messages (once you are approved and I don't have to do anything).? Hopefully this will keep the spammers at bay.? Yahoo used to allow you to send an introductory email to a new user who could then say they knew something about boats or the T27, which was a useful feature but I am happy to be rid of yahoo.
Please feel free to poke around in groups.io
/g/T27Owners
where you should already be a member.
My best,
Caleb Davison
T27 #328
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Re: T27 Yahoo Group is going to groups.io (hopefully)
Jeremy,
I totally agree with you.? The yahoo groups interface has sucked since they did their last major "upgrade" to it about 5 years ago and it wasn't that great before the upgrade either. I am more than happy to give groups.io a chance if they can scrape most of our data from the yahoo site.? We will see: they are already stating that yahoo is undependable and that they may not be able to get ALL of our messages, photos, files etc.
My best,
Caleb D
T27 #328
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeremy Shaw jeremy@... [T27Owners]
To: T27Owners
Sent: Sat, Oct 19, 2019 11:04 am
Subject: Re: [T27Owners] T27 Yahoo Group is going to groups.io (hopefully)
While temporarily annoying, this sounds like great news. The yahoo groups interface is pretty terrible and looks like a familiar but much improved interface. And, while Facebook is nice for posting pretty photos, it is not a great place for long form discussions. (And, of course, there is also the problem that Facebook is ... Facebook).
Thanks!
- jeremy
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Thanks Jeremy.? I noticed that article as well and I have already created a T27Owners group at .? There is no data in this group at the moment.
has a facility to migrate the data from a yahoo group and I have begun that process as well.? It seems this could take up to a week or more.? My intention is to keep this group apprized of any progress about the data migration (photos, messages, users etc are supposed to get moved automatically).
I'll keep you posted.
Caleb D.
T27 #328 "Odalisque"
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeremy Shaw jeremy@... [T27Owners] < T27Owners@...>
To: T27Owners < T27Owners@...>
Sent: Fri, Oct 18, 2019 8:51 pm
Subject: [T27Owners] T27 Yahoo Group is going away soon
According to the following article,"Yahoo Groups Is Winding Down and All Content Will Be Permanently Removed".
Supposedly Oct 28 will be the last day you can post, and by December 14th, they will delete everything.
As far as I know, the only other forum for T27 owners is the facebook group,
- jeremy
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Hi all.
If this goes through then things are looking up.
I have put through the "scrape from Yahoo" request here at groups.io and we shall see what they are able to gather.
My best,
Caleb D.
T27 #328
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Re: T27 Yahoo Group is going to groups.io (hopefully)
While temporarily annoying, this sounds like great news. The yahoo groups interface is pretty terrible and looks like a familiar but much improved interface. And, while Facebook is nice for posting pretty photos, it is not a great place for long form discussions. (And, of course, there is also the problem that Facebook is ... Facebook).
Thanks! - jeremy
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Thanks Jeremy.? I noticed that article as well and I have already created a T27Owners group at .? There is no data in this group at the moment.
has a facility to migrate the data from a yahoo group and I have begun that process as well.? It seems this could take up to a week or more.? My intention is to keep this group apprized of any progress about the data migration (photos, messages, users etc are supposed to get moved automatically).
I'll keep you posted.
Caleb D.
T27 #328 "Odalisque"
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeremy Shaw jeremy@... [T27Owners] < T27Owners@...>
To: T27Owners < T27Owners@...>
Sent: Fri, Oct 18, 2019 8:51 pm
Subject: [T27Owners] T27 Yahoo Group is going away soon
According to the following article,"Yahoo Groups Is Winding Down and All Content Will Be Permanently Removed".
Supposedly Oct 28 will be the last day you can post, and by December 14th, they will delete everything.
As far as I know, the only other forum for T27 owners is the facebook group,
- jeremy
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Re: T27 Yahoo Group is going to groups.io (hopefully)
Thanks, Caleb. ?I would hate for all the information on the Yahoo group to be lost into the ethos. Just last weekend I was looking into archives for information on a topic .
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Thanks Jeremy.? I noticed that article as well and I have already created a T27Owners group at?.? There is no data in this group at the moment.
?has a facility to migrate the data from a yahoo group and I have begun that process as well.? It seems this could take up to a week or more.? My intention is to keep this group apprized of any progress about the data migration (photos, messages, users etc are supposed to get moved automatically).
I'll keep you posted.
Caleb D. T27 #328 "Odalisque"
-----Original Message----- From: Jeremy Shaw ?jeremy@...?[T27Owners] < T27Owners@...> To: T27Owners < T27Owners@...> Sent: Fri, Oct 18, 2019 8:51 pm Subject: [T27Owners] T27 Yahoo Group is going away soon According to the following article,"Yahoo Groups Is Winding Down and All Content Will Be Permanently Removed".
Supposedly Oct 28 will be the last day you can post, and by December 14th, they will delete everything.
As far as I know, the only other forum for T27 owners is the facebook group,
- jeremy
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T27 Yahoo Group is going to groups.io (hopefully)
Thanks Jeremy.? I noticed that article as well and I have already created a T27Owners group at groups.io.? There is no data in this group at the moment.
/g/T27Owners
groups.io has a facility to migrate the data from a yahoo group and I have begun that process as well.? It seems this could take up to a week or more.? My intention is to keep this group apprized of any progress about the data migration (photos, messages, users etc are supposed to get moved automatically).
I'll keep you posted.
Caleb D.
T27 #328 "Odalisque"
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeremy Shaw jeremy@... [T27Owners]
To: T27Owners
Sent: Fri, Oct 18, 2019 8:51 pm
Subject: [T27Owners] T27 Yahoo Group is going away soon
According to the following article,"Yahoo Groups Is Winding Down and All Content Will Be Permanently Removed".
Supposedly Oct 28 will be the last day you can post, and by December 14th, they will delete everything.
As far as I know, the only other forum for T27 owners is the facebook group,
- jeremy
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T27 Yahoo Group is going away soon
According to the following article,"Yahoo Groups Is Winding Down and All Content Will Be Permanently Removed".
Supposedly Oct 28 will be the last day you can post, and by December 14th, they will delete everything.
As far as I know, the only other forum for T27 owners is the facebook group,
- jeremy
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That's exactly what it was.. when I start to take her apart a bit I'll have a look at the connection back there.?
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Fairport Ohio T27s had a ice box port side, access doors just below and next to the companion way and a door/hatch in the cockpit. Drained to the bilge. Just a wild guess that previous owner tapped into the scupper drain. The ice box just about buried the scupper hose connection and thru Hull.
Sent from my iPhone
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ICE BOX!
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Is the ice box T-ed into it?
Sent from my iPhone
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A lot of changes get made to boats over the years by their owners
and since my experience is with the rare west-coast model I'm
likely to give bad information, so grain of salt... but is it possible
that the engine's water cooling jacket is T'd in to the port side
drain? But that would amount to about *one* gallon of water.
And more likely the engine water is injected in to the exhaust anyawy.
I assume you've looked in the bilge and would have noticed if there
was water in the bilge (which would be likely from rain water getting
in) and then there wasn't water in the bilge any more after that.
But I'm not sure how unclogging the scupper would do that. The
scupper clog would have to some how clog the cracked thru-hull.
"I couldn't find any other water filled places on the boat" --
I'm at a loss for anything else... so look again and see if there
are signs it was recently wet?
If that does turn out to be the case, obvoiusly new thru-hulls are
on the agenda. The fresh water tank should absolutely not be
connected to the scuppers unless someone had a exceptionally
non-picky rainwater collection system rigged up.
Can you physically inspect the thru-hull fitting on the inside and
outside both (and physically push it different directions)?
Can you see if anything else is connected to the scupper's tube?
Cheers,
-scott
On 0, "truenorthmv@... [T27Owners]" <T27Owners@...> wrote:
>
>
> I'm a new owner of a 1970 Tartan 27..(please forgive my early limited
> knowledge about the boat ). I have her on stands in my yard and noticed
> after some heavy rain that the port and starboard deck drains didn't work,
> she had been on the hard for a while so I rightly assumed they were
> blocked with leaves and/tree detrius and gently reamed them out with some
> rigging wire.
>
> My questions are; on the starboard side, the below the water line
> through-hull drained off as much water as was on the deck. The port side
> however, drained what was on the deck and then a dozen gallons or so more
> of water. I just can't figure out where all that water came from. I
> couldn't find any other water filled places on the boat where that may
> have come from.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Mike
-- Michael Savoy True North Caretaking & Property Management 455 State Rd #134 Vineyard Haven, MA 02568 617-335-3678
-- Michael Savoy True North Caretaking & Property Management 455 State Rd #134 Vineyard Haven, MA 02568 617-335-3678
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Fairport Ohio T27s had a ice box port side, access doors just below and next to the companion way and a door/hatch in the cockpit. Drained to the bilge. Just a wild guess that previous owner tapped into the scupper drain. The ice box just about buried the scupper hose connection and thru Hull. Sent from my iPhone
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On Sep 25, 2019, at 3:50 PM, True North MV truenorthmv@... [T27Owners] < T27Owners@...> wrote:
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ICE BOX!
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Is the ice box T-ed into it?
Sent from my iPhone
?
A lot of changes get made to boats over the years by their owners
and since my experience is with the rare west-coast model I'm
likely to give bad information, so grain of salt... but is it possible
that the engine's water cooling jacket is T'd in to the port side
drain? But that would amount to about *one* gallon of water.
And more likely the engine water is injected in to the exhaust anyawy.
I assume you've looked in the bilge and would have noticed if there
was water in the bilge (which would be likely from rain water getting
in) and then there wasn't water in the bilge any more after that.
But I'm not sure how unclogging the scupper would do that. The
scupper clog would have to some how clog the cracked thru-hull.
"I couldn't find any other water filled places on the boat" --
I'm at a loss for anything else... so look again and see if there
are signs it was recently wet?
If that does turn out to be the case, obvoiusly new thru-hulls are
on the agenda. The fresh water tank should absolutely not be
connected to the scuppers unless someone had a exceptionally
non-picky rainwater collection system rigged up.
Can you physically inspect the thru-hull fitting on the inside and
outside both (and physically push it different directions)?
Can you see if anything else is connected to the scupper's tube?
Cheers,
-scott
On 0, "truenorthmv@... [T27Owners]" <T27Owners@...> wrote:
>
>
> I'm a new owner of a 1970 Tartan 27..(please forgive my early limited
> knowledge about the boat ). I have her on stands in my yard and noticed
> after some heavy rain that the port and starboard deck drains didn't work,
> she had been on the hard for a while so I rightly assumed they were
> blocked with leaves and/tree detrius and gently reamed them out with some
> rigging wire.
>
> My questions are; on the starboard side, the below the water line
> through-hull drained off as much water as was on the deck. The port side
> however, drained what was on the deck and then a dozen gallons or so more
> of water. I just can't figure out where all that water came from. I
> couldn't find any other water filled places on the boat where that may
> have come from.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Mike
-- Michael Savoy True North Caretaking & Property Management 455 State Rd #134 Vineyard Haven, MA 02568 617-335-3678
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Show quoted text
?
Is the ice box T-ed into it?
Sent from my iPhone
?
A lot of changes get made to boats over the years by their owners
and since my experience is with the rare west-coast model I'm
likely to give bad information, so grain of salt... but is it possible
that the engine's water cooling jacket is T'd in to the port side
drain? But that would amount to about *one* gallon of water.
And more likely the engine water is injected in to the exhaust anyawy.
I assume you've looked in the bilge and would have noticed if there
was water in the bilge (which would be likely from rain water getting
in) and then there wasn't water in the bilge any more after that.
But I'm not sure how unclogging the scupper would do that. The
scupper clog would have to some how clog the cracked thru-hull.
"I couldn't find any other water filled places on the boat" --
I'm at a loss for anything else... so look again and see if there
are signs it was recently wet?
If that does turn out to be the case, obvoiusly new thru-hulls are
on the agenda. The fresh water tank should absolutely not be
connected to the scuppers unless someone had a exceptionally
non-picky rainwater collection system rigged up.
Can you physically inspect the thru-hull fitting on the inside and
outside both (and physically push it different directions)?
Can you see if anything else is connected to the scupper's tube?
Cheers,
-scott
On 0, "truenorthmv@... [T27Owners]" <T27Owners@...> wrote:
>
>
> I'm a new owner of a 1970 Tartan 27..(please forgive my early limited
> knowledge about the boat ). I have her on stands in my yard and noticed
> after some heavy rain that the port and starboard deck drains didn't work,
> she had been on the hard for a while so I rightly assumed they were
> blocked with leaves and/tree detrius and gently reamed them out with some
> rigging wire.
>
> My questions are; on the starboard side, the below the water line
> through-hull drained off as much water as was on the deck. The port side
> however, drained what was on the deck and then a dozen gallons or so more
> of water. I just can't figure out where all that water came from. I
> couldn't find any other water filled places on the boat where that may
> have come from.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Mike
-- Michael Savoy True North Caretaking & Property Management 455 State Rd #134 Vineyard Haven, MA 02568 617-335-3678
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Is the ice box T-ed into it? Sent from my iPhone
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On Sep 25, 2019, at 1:35 PM, Scott Walters scott@... [T27Owners] < T27Owners@...> wrote:
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A lot of changes get made to boats over the years by their owners
and since my experience is with the rare west-coast model I'm
likely to give bad information, so grain of salt... but is it possible
that the engine's water cooling jacket is T'd in to the port side
drain? But that would amount to about *one* gallon of water.
And more likely the engine water is injected in to the exhaust anyawy.
I assume you've looked in the bilge and would have noticed if there
was water in the bilge (which would be likely from rain water getting
in) and then there wasn't water in the bilge any more after that.
But I'm not sure how unclogging the scupper would do that. The
scupper clog would have to some how clog the cracked thru-hull.
"I couldn't find any other water filled places on the boat" --
I'm at a loss for anything else... so look again and see if there
are signs it was recently wet?
If that does turn out to be the case, obvoiusly new thru-hulls are
on the agenda. The fresh water tank should absolutely not be
connected to the scuppers unless someone had a exceptionally
non-picky rainwater collection system rigged up.
Can you physically inspect the thru-hull fitting on the inside and
outside both (and physically push it different directions)?
Can you see if anything else is connected to the scupper's tube?
Cheers,
-scott
On 0, "truenorthmv@... [T27Owners]" <T27Owners@...> wrote:
>
>
> I'm a new owner of a 1970 Tartan 27..(please forgive my early limited
> knowledge about the boat ). I have her on stands in my yard and noticed
> after some heavy rain that the port and starboard deck drains didn't work,
> she had been on the hard for a while so I rightly assumed they were
> blocked with leaves and/tree detrius and gently reamed them out with some
> rigging wire.
>
> My questions are; on the starboard side, the below the water line
> through-hull drained off as much water as was on the deck. The port side
> however, drained what was on the deck and then a dozen gallons or so more
> of water. I just can't figure out where all that water came from. I
> couldn't find any other water filled places on the boat where that may
> have come from.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Mike
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A lot of changes get made to boats over the years by their owners
and since my experience is with the rare west-coast model I'm
likely to give bad information, so grain of salt... but is it possible
that the engine's water cooling jacket is T'd in to the port side
drain? But that would amount to about *one* gallon of water.
And more likely the engine water is injected in to the exhaust anyawy.
I assume you've looked in the bilge and would have noticed if there
was water in the bilge (which would be likely from rain water getting
in) and then there wasn't water in the bilge any more after that.
But I'm not sure how unclogging the scupper would do that. The
scupper clog would have to some how clog the cracked thru-hull.
"I couldn't find any other water filled places on the boat" --
I'm at a loss for anything else... so look again and see if there
are signs it was recently wet?
If that does turn out to be the case, obvoiusly new thru-hulls are
on the agenda. The fresh water tank should absolutely not be
connected to the scuppers unless someone had a exceptionally
non-picky rainwater collection system rigged up.
Can you physically inspect the thru-hull fitting on the inside and
outside both (and physically push it different directions)?
Can you see if anything else is connected to the scupper's tube?
Cheers,
-scott
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
On 0, "truenorthmv@... [T27Owners]" <T27Owners@...> wrote:
I'm a new owner of a 1970 Tartan 27..(please forgive my early limited
knowledge about the boat ). I have her on stands in my yard and noticed
after some heavy rain that the port and starboard deck drains didn't work,
she had been on the hard for a while so I rightly assumed they were
blocked with leaves and/tree detrius and gently reamed them out with some
rigging wire.
My questions are; on the starboard side, the below the water line
through-hull drained off as much water as was on the deck. The port side
however, drained what was on the deck and then a dozen gallons or so more
of water. I just can't figure out where all that water came from. I
couldn't find any other water filled places on the boat where that may
have come from.
Thoughts?
Mike
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I'm a new owner of a 1970 Tartan 27..(please forgive my early limited knowledge about the boat ). I have her on stands in my yard and noticed after some heavy rain that the port and starboard deck drains didn't work, she had been on the hard for a while so I rightly assumed they were blocked with leaves and/tree detrius and gently reamed them out with some rigging wire.
My questions are; on the starboard side, the below the water line through-hull drained off as much water as was on the deck. The port side however, drained what was on the deck and then a dozen gallons or so more of water. I just can't figure out where all that water came from. I couldn't find any other water filled places on the boat where that may have come from.
Thoughts?
Mike
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Hello Brent.
For some reason i cannot see your pic it seems to indicate the image link is broken? i would like to see it if possible as im afraid i will be having to redo my mast step as well.
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Ok, thanks. I did see a strip of metal down there, that was as much as I could make out. But it does give me some cheer to know that someone else has dealt with the same problem. --Rob
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Hi Robert,
Welcome to the T27 Fix-It community. Below is a photo of how Rich Shearley (Lola's previous owner and restorer) rebuilt the mast step on Lola (#438). On top of this went the metal mast step, which is an aluminum (I believe) plate/inverted "T", where the stem of the T is oriented upward and in the fore/aft direction to mate with a slot in the bottom of the mast. I think the mast step was set in thickened epoxy. It's pretty solid and hasn't moved, though the floor around it has. If you need to build up with wood prior to epoxy/glass, then metal, white oak is likely your best bet.
Brent LOLA #438 Formerly in New London, CT, now in Cataumet (Bourne), MA
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I'm wondering about a couple things. First would be how to fabricate a new step, what materials, how big, or can I buy something and fit it to the mast and then whatever support underneath I need. I'm pretty well versed in epoxy/glass at this point after my Allied experience(ongoing).? Then what height do I need to be at from bottom of cabin top to top of mast step to keep the original dimension. I can adjust from there based on what's left of the mast. I figure I could raise any prospective step by 1/4 inch or more. Looks like I need to tear out the interior in that area. I may just truck the boat to Jacksonville instead of trying to work on it there in Eden. It's on the hard btw. Trying to wrap my head around it. Im going to go back to Jax and finish the holes in the Allied first, put the interior back together. Working now $$ and waiting for a bit cooler weather there.
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I'm wondering about a couple things. First would be how to fabricate a new step, what materials, how big, or can I buy something and fit it to the mast and then whatever support underneath I need. I'm pretty well versed in epoxy/glass at this point after my Allied experience(ongoing).? Then what height do I need to be at from bottom of cabin top to top of mast step to keep the original dimension. I can adjust from there based on what's left of the mast. I figure I could raise any prospective step by 1/4 inch or more. Looks like I need to tear out the interior in that area. I may just truck the boat to Jacksonville instead of trying to work on it there in Eden. It's on the hard btw. Trying to wrap my head around it. Im going to go back to Jax and finish the holes in the Allied first, put the interior back together. Working now $$ and waiting for a bit cooler weather there.
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